Who has the worst current pc specs?

[elecxonica]

The mac mini. Ignoring the OS and the brand on the top, it's a glorified laptop with no dedicated GPU, laptop HDD, RAM and CPU, and this thing costs like AU$600, without a screen keyboard or mouse.

[YouTookMyJob]

Anything Alienware

[Sauron]

This is one of the few imacs that is actually a terrible computer as well as overpriced: http://store.apple.com/us/buy-mac/imac?product=MF883LL/A&step=config#

The mac mini line is also very bad, in fact it has very strong competitors even in their own imac cousins, let alone others.

I'm not very informed about prebuilts (I wouldn't get one anyway, apple is an exception because of how often it gets brought up and the amount of arguments I've had about them), but I'd say it's safe to assume anything mounting an e1 apu qualifies for this, it's just too slow to be sold.

[KABAR432]

THIS. I know I post it a lot but it is overpriced

http://m.hsn.com/m/Product/7553000

Good lord..... look at all that bloatware

[terrytek]

Anything Alienware

You took my answer.

[Sors]

Acer Aspire One, 2009.

 

 

Single core Atom processor,  I hate to fix these, and so many people still cling to them.

[soup]

 he keeps ignoring the target end user it was designed for.

 

I didn't get that impression at all, yes he does tend to look at it from the perspective of a "power user" but he does say a few times (not watched this recently so have no time stamps or anything) that this is suitable (if crappily made) for "low end" (e-mail, light surfing etc) use.

[mr moose]

I didn't get that impression at all, yes he does tend to look at it from the perspective of a "power user" but he does say a few times (not watched this recently so have no time stamps or anything) that this is suitable (if crappily made) for "low end" (e-mail, light surfing etc) use.

really? it's  45 minute review of a product that should take 10 minutes tops ( average review time for HP pc's on youtube).   It's a very light duty budget home pc for students and email/web browsing nothing more.

 

so while he does say what it's suitable for, that's still 35 minutes where he unfairly berates it about the screws they use not being Phillips head, the target customer for this unit will not be taking it apart (ever), he talks about the lack of upgradeable components (the target consumer won't be upgrading nor care whats inside).   The fact that it's essentially a laptop in a case is not negative in fact it's probably perfect for the target end user because power bills are usually a concern for someone who can only afford $400 for a pc.

[felixbearpig]

chrome book with atoms..... horrible

[JaeDee884]

Acer Aspire One, 2009.

 

 

Single core Atom processor,  I hate to fix these, and so many people still cling to them.

i agree with this

[mr moose]

Acer Aspire One, 2009.

 

 

Single core Atom processor,  I hate to fix these, and so many people still cling to them.

Got a question, if they are the worst why do so many people cling to them?

[Leonard]

Any PC with and ATOM in it or made by ACER or DELL.

[soup]

 

so while he does say what it's suitable for, that's still 35 minutes where he unfairly berates it about the screws they use not being Phillips head, the target customer for this unit will not be taking it apart (ever), he talks about the lack of upgradeable components (the target consumer won't be upgrading nor care whats inside).   The fact that it's essentially a laptop in a case is not negative in fact it's probably perfect for the target end user because power bills are usually a concern for someone who can only afford $400 for a pc.

Whilst I would agree with most of that.  MOST who buy that for e-mail, facebook etc have no intention of ever opening it up.. However I would say that he was berating HP for the use of T15 rather than a Philips as an HP problem not that particular model. 

Seem to remember him waffling on about weakening the brand image etc and using Ferrari as an example most of that could have been severally curtailed if not cut entirely

[terrytek]

Anything Gateway or eMachines.

[chilicheeseburger]

As both a gamer and someone who needs video rendering, I just stay far away from pre built systems anyway. Most are okay for office use though.

But if you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

[Cokeman]

All chrome books qualify

[mr moose]

Whilst I would agree with most of that.  MOST who buy that for e-mail, facebook etc have no intention of ever opening it up.. However I would say that he was berating HP for the use of T15 rather than a Philips as an HP problem not that particular model. 

Seem to remember him waffling on about weakening the brand image etc and using Ferrari as an example most of that could have been severally curtailed if not cut entirely

HP chose that screw for a reason, and I'd wager it was a cost and or design requirement.  Not only that, it's such a petty thing to devote review time to the screw used especially when it is such a non defining part that doesn't stop the unit working as intended. Add that very little people who want to upgrade their pc's buy pre-builts anyway.  It's like he doesn't know who his audience is. 

[Sors]

Got a question, if they are the worst why do so many people cling to them?

 

In their words, because they have no money to replace them.  A few ISPs were giving these away with new contracts, that's how most people got one.

 

I absolutely can understand that money is tight for some, and that is why I do all I can to keep them running.

[soup]

HP chose that screw for a reason, and I'd wager it was a cost and or design requirement.  Not only that, it's such a petty thing to devote review time to the screw used especially when it is such a non defining part that doesn't stop the unit working as intended. Add that very little people who want to upgrade their pc's buy pre-builts anyway.  It's like he doesn't know who his audience is. 

 

Not all HPs are entry level, some will be dissasembled (and a technician may well require access to check why the hard drive isn't working).  It justs means they (HPs) require another tool to dissassemble (to quote Linus all you need is a cross-head screwdriver).

TBH can't see how the head affects the holding power of a screw and having a non-standard part doesn't make a whole lot of sence, can't see it being any cheaper to form a T head than a Philips one .  Yes HP must have a reason for using it but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.

[xNeon]

   So over the years there have been great PC's made by companies like Dell, HP, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, and many more. Then there are the duds. A recant one that drives 

 

me crazy is the HP 110-210. This thing is garbage. It has zero expansion. No PCI slots, It uses a laptop power supply, it uses a slow AMD A4-5000 APU, and it has what

 

they call an "Approachable Design". What does the Mean!?  If I where the CEO I'd quit. I would be to ashamed to make this PC. I guess HP really did live up to their hate

 

name "Horrible Products"   Heres and Amazon link if you are interested in buying this piece of s***    http://www.amazon.com/HP-F3D15AA-ABA-110-210-

Desktop/dp/B00HCCX4AM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407182345&sr=8-1&keywords=hp+110-210 

 

 

     But what do you think is the worst PC made in the last 5 Years. And I'm only talking about PC's made buy companies. Not one someone built.

Approachable means you can walk up to it just to confirm "wtf I thought that was a trash can."

[xNeon]

Acer Aspire One, 2009.

 

 

Single core Atom processor,  I hate to fix these, and so many people still cling to them.

I had one of these! Died from a BIOS problem. Tried to flash it and it killed it. I loved it. Only because I didn't know any better.

[TheKDub]

Alienware.

And chromebooks.

[Speedbird]

Approachable means you can walk up to it just to confirm "wtf I thought that was a trash can."

That reminds me of the Mac Pro.

[mr moose]

Not all HPs are entry level, some will be dissasembled (and a technician may well require access to check why the hard drive isn't working).  It justs means they (HPs) require another tool to dissassemble (to quote Linus all you need is a cross-head screwdriver).

TBH can't see how the head affects the holding power of a screw and having a non-standard part doesn't make a whole lot of sence, can't see it being any cheaper to form a T head than a Philips one .  Yes HP must have a reason for using it but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.

But he's not reviewing any other HP, he's only reviewing that one. And for that one the screw type is irrelevant.  As a professional (yes, computer technician amongst other things) I have never had an issue with screws, you just select the screw tip you need.    It just an unfair review to complain about an aspect that bares no relevance to the end user.  Especially if the person watching decides to spend more on another identical performing machine thinking that screw type is important. 

 

EDIT: you just have to look at all the responses here from supposedly informed enthusiasts berating that pc and laughing at it, some have even said they can't believe HP are still in business with products like that (another thread). Imagine how average Joes' are going to interpret the review.  There is nothing wrong with that pc for what it costs and the job it is intended to do, In fact I challenge any one here to build a complete system cheaper.

[soup]

But he's not reviewing any other HP,

EDIT:  In fact I challenge any one here to build a complete system cheaper.

As I say haven't watched that review in a while[1] but I seem to remember the impression I got was that was an aside against HPs practises not just that particular model.

 

He goes on (in parts 2 and 3) to build a similar priced system and benchmark it.  He does say something about he would not produce anything that low end, which I feel shows were he is coming from.  To me that is a cheap(ish) POS but is perfectly adequate for it's intended users.

The intended users being the school kids, and e-mailers as you mentioned.

 

Don't get me wrong I am not defending him/his views, after all that is an adequate system for its inteneded users, more I see that video as him bemoaning (Wrongly IMHO) that systems like that are made.

The crap build quality is another matter.  Unconnected cables CAN happen to anyone, but too go to the lengths/costs to fit an extract fan and then not to cable manage to maximise flow [2]strikes me as 'more thought required'.

 

[1] Watched it once many moons ago but decided it doesn't really 'float my boat' so haven't watched it since.

[2] Not that it really needs it, there seems to be a cathedrals worth of space in there to allow adequate airflow.   Maybe HP decided that the increase in airflow/cooling, that cable managing allows, is insignificant, whilst people are put off by lack of a physical fan?