Why do people waste money on faster RAM?

[lexidobe]

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

[TSL]

• For a CPU based on Ryzen architecture, increasing memory speed up to 3600Mhz will significantly and noticeably boost performance. I feel your pain though. 

[_Dr_Eye_]

10 minutes ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

with ryzen it make sence but otherwise they are ritch fucks who want ot owaste their money on unncecisary thing s that oyu dont even need because it wont affect preformence

[dexT]

9 minutes ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

You're not going to run 4000 on X99. If you're really good at OC you can do 3466.

 

You have to use a 125 bclk and raise the volt.

[lexidobe]

2 minutes ago, dexT said:

You're not going to run 4000 on X99. If you're really good at OC you can do 3466.

 

You have to use a 125 bclk and raise the volt.

Maybe I just got a golden CPU, but I can run 3600 on my i7 6850K. I didn't try 4000, but 3600 works.

[NumLock21]

16 minutes ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

Do some research before spewing nonsense. This goes to the person who agrees with your post.

[Damascus]

Lol, ryzen (and many other cpus) needs to have ram that is ON THE QVL.  Also, did you update to the newest bios and is it b-die?

[LienusLateTips]

intel idk

 

 

AMD Ryzen gets huge performance gains from fast RAM, on the QVL using samsung die

[JoostinOnline]

37 minutes ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

4000MHz is overkill, but faster RAM does  mean better performance.

[dexT]

27 minutes ago, lexidobe said:

Maybe I just got a golden CPU, but I can run 3600 on my i7 6850K. I didn't try 4000, but 3600 works.

Ah yeah B-E does go a little higher. Try your ram on his rig.

[lexidobe]

Just now, dexT said:

Ah yeah B-E does go a little higher. Try your ram on his rig.

I tried my 3000 EVGA RAM is his system and it didn't change anything.

[dexT]

@done12many2 might help I think he has that board.

 

I did H-E(weaker imc) with 1st Gen DDR4 and got way higher than that.

[just_dave]

4 hours ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

Dafuq? Are you normal? Every motherboard with a decent chipset (B350,X370,Z270) will run memory as high as the IMC will let it.

Thats complete BS that you think the RoG mobo will run only 2400MHz. Thats speed recommended by JEDEC, noone has to follow that.

[just_dave]

4 hours ago, Damascus said:

Lol, ryzen (and many other cpus) needs to have ram that is ON THE QVL.  Also, did you update to the newest bios and is it b-die?

I have to disagree, i use the legendary Hynix version of 3200MHz LPX kit, which is not on the QVL of my mobo. I am runnig at 2933MHz with custom C14 timings. 

[dfg666]

6 hours ago, lexidobe said:

I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do.

Because you obviously don't know how to properly configure RAM.

[just_dave]

28 minutes ago, dfg666 said:

Because you obviously don't know how to properly configure RAM.

lol

[DarkSmith2]

Not the fault of every1 else, you should have done proper research. If you would want to use very fast RAM without having the extra bit of fiddling you would had just bought an APEX board.

[Damascus]

4 hours ago, dave_k said:

I have to disagree, i use the legendary Hynix version of 3200MHz LPX kit, which is not on the QVL of my mobo. I am runnig at 2933MHz with custom C14 timings. 

Not an absolute, more of a rule of thumb.  If your kit is legendary I'm going to assume it's quality and with AGESA it becomes easier anyways.

 

Also a b-die kit could probably get to 3333 cas 15/16

[Jumper118]

I run 4000mhz galax goc 2016 in my ryzen system at 3200mhz. Are you triggered? 

[bsodmike]

8 hours ago, NumLock21 said:

Do some research before spewing nonsense. This goes to the person who agrees with your post.

Well, his post isn't nonsenses given the lack of research done ;-)

[Berfs1]

9 hours ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

Contact me, I think I can help you. Have you tried XMP?

[done12many2]

10 hours ago, lexidobe said:

I do not really understand why someone would spend so much extra on faster RAM that may or may not work with their CPU and motherboard, and I do not understand why companies would sell products(motherboards and CPUs) that may or may not work with top dollar RAM. I am so pissed off because my friend spent good money to buy 4000  MHZ DDR4 and his $1700 dollar i7 and $500 ROG modherboard will only run it at 2400 MHZ, no matter what we do. It's not the RAM, I tested it in my system, the CPU just doesn't have a good enough memory controller to run it. This is BS!

 

I've got to be honest bud.  I can't see how you are "pissed off" at manufacturers when all of the information that you needed is readily available.

 

There's nothing wrong with the CPU, RAM or motherboard.  There is however something wrong with the combination of the 3 that you put together.

 

You can easily get that RAM running at much higher than 2400 MHz with some manual tweaking, but there's no chance that you're going to set XMP and go. 

 

9 hours ago, lexidobe said:

Maybe I just got a golden CPU, but I can run 3600 on my i7 6850K. I didn't try 4000, but 3600 works.

 

While in very rare cases, 3600 MHz on BWE is possible, more often than not people are actually sacrificing stability to run at that speed.  It might be stable enough for light use, but when pushed, ugly things start to happen.  

[NumLock21]

2 hours ago, bsodmike said:

Well, his post isn't nonsenses given the lack of research done ;-)

his post lacks nonsense.