Stay with FX-8320 or upgrade to 1500x

[Possiblejam]

I currently have a FX-8320 @4.2ghz and I want to upgrade just to get off the old architecture and get something more current but all the benchmarks I've seen both the cpu's are only a few fps off. If I do end up upgrading I would definitely overclock the 1500x as far as I could go, just want to get some recommendations 

 

[Sir Asvald]

Upgrade. Don't get the 1500x. Get the 1600. 

[Firecheetah13]

I absolutely agree with the above comment. Get out of that platform and get a 1600.

[kalnick]

4 minutes ago, Possiblejam said:

I currently have a FX-8320 @4.2ghz and I want to upgrade just to get off the old architecture and get something more current but all the benchmarks I've seen both the cpu's are only a few fps off. If I do end up upgrading I would definitely overclock the 1500x as far as I could go, just want to get some recommendations 

 

3.9 seems to be the max most people are getting out of R5 chips.

Maybe wait for Coffee Lake and see how that looks to you. Then decide if you want to go Intel or Ryzen

[DrMacintosh]

FX is dead, get an am4 CPU. 

[onlybuilt4cubanxlinx]

3 minutes ago, Possiblejam said:

I currently have a FX-8320 @4.2ghz and I want to upgrade just to get off the old architecture and get something more current but all the benchmarks I've seen both the cpu's are only a few fps off. If I do end up upgrading I would definitely overclock the 1500x as far as I could go, just want to get some recommendations 

 

I'm in the same boat as you my friend. If you don't plan on doing anything but gaming the 1500x is a good pick. 

[ScratchHackeryt]

Go with the 1500x as its way newer and theres an actuall upgrade path that you have

[MyName13]

Dont, just get r5 1600 or wait for coffee lake, you should be able to buy a hexa core for the price of r5 1400/1500x.

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Dont, just get r5 1600 or wait for coffee lake, you should be able to buy a hexa core for the price of r5 1400/1500x.

Coffe lakes will be 6 cores, but only 6 threads AFAIK. The 1500X has 8 threads, and the 1600 has 12. So both give you more threads. 

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Coffe lakes will be 6 cores, but only 6 threads AFAIK. The 1500X has 8 threads, and the 1600 has 12. So both give you more threads. 

Doesn't mean that Ryzen will be more powerful though, I mean, if the rumors are true, the 8600K will probably have the same multi thread performance as the 1600X, while having better single thread performance. But, I REALLY doubt that this rumor is true, so idk

[TheV_Machine]

11 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Coffe lakes will be 6 cores, but only 6 threads AFAIK. The 1500X has 8 threads, and the 1600 has 12. So both give you more threads. 

 but intel still presents a better singel core performance, but i wouldnt wait for coffee lake, it will most likely be released in autuum and the new chips now are the ultrabook chips. pair either of the r5 or coffeelake chips with the same decent gpu and it will be max 5 fps difference

[mvnb]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-1500X-vs-AMD-FX-8320/3921vs1983

Well, this might help you

 

[MyName13]

16 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Coffe lakes will be 6 cores, but only 6 threads AFAIK. The 1500X has 8 threads, and the 1600 has 12. So both give you more threads. 

You can't compare threads and cores across different architectures, 6 cores will be stronger than 4 in most cases, intel's cores are more powerful too.

[Zando_]

Just now, MyName13 said:

You can't compare threads and cores across different architectures, 6 cores will be stronger than 4 in most cases, intel's cores are more powerful too.

Yeah. Though is it worth waiting for less threads when games are already being updated to support more? Ryzen may have weaker cores, but more of them, so that discounts it. And if Intel continues with it's current pricing, it probs won't be as cheap as Ryzen. Though, they still will be very good CPU capable of pumping out the pixels and calculations just fine. 

 

I'm currently weighing and upgrade to an i7 3770 or the jump to Ryzen. 

[SpaceGhostC2C]

24 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Dont, just get r5 1600 or wait for coffee lake, you should be able to buy a hexa core for the price of r5 1400/1500x.

I haven't seen any rumor placing Coffee Lake i5s that cheap, but I'll guess we'll see when it launches.

I expect Ryzen 1600x prices for the i5s, Ryzen 7 prices for the i7s.

[MyName13]

1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

Yeah. Though is it worth waiting for less threads when games are already being updated to support more? Ryzen may have weaker cores, but more of them, so that discounts it. And if Intel continues with it's current pricing, it probs won't be as cheap as Ryzen. Though, they still will be very good CPU capable of pumping out the pixels and calculations just fine. 

 

I'm currently weighing and upgrade to an i7 3770 or the jump to Ryzen. 

When it comes to AMD more is less when compared to Intel compare their r3 CPUs with i3, they perform almost the same.Virtual cores aren't real cores, there's a reason why r5 1400/1500x perform like i5s or worse (even hexa core ryzen performs worse than a locked i5 in some games).

[Zando_]

Just now, MyName13 said:

When it comes to AMD more is less when compared to Intel compare their r3 CPUs with i3, they perform almost the same.Virtual cores aren't real cores, there's a reason why r5 1400/1500x perform like i5s or worse (even hexa core ryzen performs worse than a locked i5 in some games).

That's because games are made for 4 threads (most games anyways) AFAIK. As newer games get support for more cores, we'll see how that changes things. That said, both Intel's Core I series and AMD's Ryzen are amazing CPUs, each with their strengths and weaknesses. 

[MyName13]

8 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

That's because games are made for 4 threads (most games anyways) AFAIK. As newer games get support for more cores, we'll see how that changes things. That said, both Intel's Core I series and AMD's Ryzen are amazing CPUs, each with their strengths and weaknesses. 

That's strange because we know that games do use smt (gamers Nexus i5 2500k vs i7 2600k) and r5 1600 has better frame times than i5.SMT can't do wonders in all workloads, it helps a lot to dual cores but not much to quad cores, we also can't compare intel's hyper threading and Zen smt, those are different architectures/implementations.

[Kenrou]

The one thing you can always count on Intel is that it will be more expensive then AMD. That said i totally agree with @Abdul201588 and go Ryzen 1600.

 

To end any more arguments of what is the Coffee Lake lineup :

 

[MyName13]

2 minutes ago, Kenrou said:

The one thing you can always count on Intel is that it will be more expensive then AMD. That said i totally agree with @Abdul201588 and go Ryzen 1600.

 

To end any more arguments of what is the Coffee Lake lineup :

 

Why would it be more expensive than amd's CPUs?Prices haven't changed since Bulldozer, this is consumer lineup.

[Kenrou]

Because AMD has nearly always been the cheapest solution from inception. Even now the 1500x is nearly half the price from it's Intel counterpart.

[MyName13]

8 hours ago, Kenrou said:

Because AMD has nearly always been the cheapest solution from inception. Even now the 1500x is nearly half the price from it's Intel counterpart.

Except quad r5s are far from i7s (unless I'm wrong?I haven't seen r5 1400/1500x vs i7 clock for clock comparison).

[TheV_Machine]

2 hours ago, MyName13 said:

Except quad r5s are far from i7s (unless I'm wrong?I haven't seen r5 1400/1500x vs i7 clock for clock comparison).

First Off, seems to me that you are defending Intel No Matter what. Second, we all arent helping the OP anymore making His decision. Point is, ryzen CPUs will Most likely stay multi Code workload Kings, while Intel will bei the best in single Code. How Games will Work Out with more Than 4 Cores is all speculation up to this point. Also, to produce more powerful cores is more expensive than just putting a Few more onto the final CPU, so ryzen has a price advantage there. But Intel also holds a good stack of Money Back from their Last years of prosperity so they should be able to afford selling coffee Lake cheaper to gain Back market Share. In the end, IT comes down to how fast you want Your new System and/or what your workload looks Like in Your PC. So are we all now done with being stupid AMD/Intel fanboiiiss?

[Dabombinable]

The CPU are more than a few FPS off. The FX series really is showing its age (and the fact that it runs more like an old quad core in games):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jiXkrRoD4w&t

[MyName13]

29 minutes ago, TheV_Machine said:

First Off, seems to me that you are defending Intel No Matter what. Second, we all arent helping the OP anymore making His decision. Point is, ryzen CPUs will Most likely stay multi Code workload Kings, while Intel will bei the best in single Code. How Games will Work Out with more Than 4 Cores is all speculation up to this point. Also, to produce more powerful cores is more expensive than just putting a Few more onto the final CPU, so ryzen has a price advantage there. But Intel also holds a good stack of Money Back from their Last years of prosperity so they should be able to afford selling coffee Lake cheaper to gain Back market Share. In the end, IT comes down to how fast you want Your new System and/or what your workload looks Like in Your PC. So are we all now done with being stupid AMD/Intel fanboiiiss?

I'm defending Intel by saying that r5 1400/1500x are far from intel's i7 CPUs?Ok, spotting amd fanboys is really easy these days.