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Move over 7700, i3 8350 almost matches in performance

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It is WCCF so take it with a bag of salt, but if its half true, Ryzen has pushed intel so much that even the hardest of intel fanboys won't be able to help but love AMD for that.

 

Source: http://wccftech.com/intel-coffee-lake-core-i3-8350k-cpu-benchmarks-leak/amp/

 

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Coming to the benchmarks, we will first be looking at the CPU-Z benchmark where the Core i3-8350K scores 503.3 points in single threaded and 1982.0 points in multi-threaded benchmarks. Comparing the single-threaded score, we can see that the Core i3-8350K is faster than the Intel Core i7-7700K which does 492 points with a higher rated clock speed of 4.2 GHz base and 4.5 GHz boost while the i3 only boasts a 4.0 GHz clock. In multi-threading, the Core i7-7700K scores 2648 points but we can see that it is solely due to the higher thread count and within the range that i3 can easily overcome with a slight overclock.

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It'll certainly be interesting to see this confirmed or denied in the coming days. As of now as it stands, the sub $200 is looking a whole lot better. This will also cement intel as the go to for gaming, with AMD being the choice for more multi purpose systems.

 

I guess you could say my old 8350 has ryzen again... oh wait....

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If I bought a new i7 within the last 2 years I'd be mad lol. 

Good thing my 2600k still lives. 

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The i3-8350K is basically an i5-7600K of Coffee Lake so it doesn't seem like a big suprise, the singlethreaded score seems too high though - either this is fake, the i3 was overclocked or Intel has improved IPC by A LOT which is basically not possible at the moment (7700K @4,5GHz boost loses singlethreaded tests to a 4,0 Coffee Lake? Not likely). My vote goes for one of the first two options.

 

Also, WCCF.

Just now, FloRolf said:

If I bought a new i7 within the last 2 years I'd be mad lol. 

Good thing my 2600k still lives. 

Tell me about it ;) It's good that the market is shifting thanks to AMD though. We want progress, not monopoly.

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I highly doubt that. But still, what is kinda confirmed (the core counts + IPC improvement) is already great. But THIS, well, I doubt intel would go from 0,001% improvements per generaration to OVER 9000 in the blink of an eye.

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28 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

But CL i3 won't have HT.

True, but each hyperthreaded core adds like only 30% equivalent of a physical core doesn't it? 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Bag?  More like this.

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And I thought I was going overboard saying bag instead of grain xD

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1 minute ago, Ginger137 said:

True, but each hyperthreaded core adds like only 30% equivalent of a physical core doesn't it?

Basically, i5 has become the new i3, so the performance you'd expect from an i5 is effectively what you should expect from the i3-8350 (give or take some minor improvements in IPC and/or clock speed....scratch that, probably just clock speed).  To expect i7 level of performance from an i5-like processor is unrealistic (hence my post about salt, heh).

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48 minutes ago, Ginger137 said:

Intel-Core-i3-8350K-Processor_CPUz_2.jpg

In retrospect, those numbers seem way too low.  My Ryzen 7 1800x gets 2156 in single threaded, though I am running build 1.78.1 with benchmark version 15.01.64.  I should update to the latest build and compare it.

 

*EDIT*
Never mind, they changed the benchmark in the latest build.  Now I get 422.5 (that's at stock).

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16 minutes ago, Ginger137 said:

True, but each hyperthreaded core adds like only 30% equivalent of a physical core doesn't it? 

It depends a lot on the software, but between 0% and 50%. Cinebench is around 30% ball park. Prime95 is 0%.

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I guess I'll order my fucking TR motherboard and CPU some time soon.

 

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Just now, BuckGup said:

I think everyone should just not buy their stuff and wait it out

Sorry I'm a little tired this morning, which company are you referring to?

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2 hours ago, FloRolf said:

If I bought a new i7 within the last 2 years I'd be mad lol. 

Good thing my 2600k still lives. 

why? you had two years to enjoy the cpu and a current i7 will hold for another few years.

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1 minute ago, Teddy07 said:

why? you had two years to enjoy the cpu and a current i7 will hold for another few years.

well the point is that it shows that Intel has been holding back, which people would get mad due to the feeling of broken trust.

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9 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

I think everyone should just not buy their stuff and wait it out

 

Why? Wait for what?

 

3 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

why? you had two years to enjoy the cpu and a current i7 will hold for another few years.

Remember that on this forum people think if they by the top end it needs to stay the top for 4+ years or they got screwed over. 

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3 minutes ago, Teddy07 said:

why? you had two years to enjoy the cpu and a current i7 will hold for another few years.

"holding" for 2 years is not quite enough when you splurge 350$ on a cpu, especially when intel has been clearly just waiting for amd to make a move when they could have increased the core counts years ago.

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1 minute ago, Sauron said:

they could have increased the core counts years ago.

Proof? Or possibly they really did just manage to get a 6 core? 

 

I am glad we have so many people that work directly with intels engineers here.

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Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Remember that on this forum people think if they by the top end it needs to stay the top for 4+ years or they got screwed over. 

They feel screwed over if there has been very little improvement over 6 years and now suddenly intel just halves the prices out of the blue. This should have happened more gradually. People can't wait forever and knowing intel has been holding back on purpose (not that we didn't know it already, but this confirms it) is annoying.

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1 hour ago, mynameisjuan said:

 

Why? Wait for what?

 

Remember that on this forum people think if they by the top end it needs to stay the top for 4+ years or they got screwed over. 

Good thing this isn't the 90s anymore they would be really angry when their $1000 cpu was knocked down in a year by something three times faster.

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1 minute ago, mynameisjuan said:

Proof? Or possibly they really did just manage to get a 6 core? 

 

I am glad we have so many people that work directly with intels engineers here.

Intel has had 6 cores for several years, just not on mainstream.  It's not like it's something new.  And considering AMD has had 6+ cores on mainstream for many years, I doubt it's something Intel couldn't have done.  They just chose not to.

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Just now, mynameisjuan said:

Proof? Or possibly they really did just manage to get a 6 core? 

 

I am glad we have so many people that work directly with intels engineers here.

Proof? They have had 6 core cpus for what, 8 years? And you think over the past 5 years the cost of producing the same old tired quad cores hasn't decreased? The excuse for going with the "enthusiast" platform was die size and pcie lanes, guess what, that hasn't been a problem since 2012. And if for some arcane reason the 6 core parts just needed to be on the workstation chipset at all costs, they should still have lowered the prices on the quad cores - no architectural magic to be performed there, just a good old price adjustment.

 

But sure, I guess just because we don't literally work there and take part in the design of the cpu we "can't know" and therefore must act dumb. We can't criticize anything unless we personally made it. We must have blind faith that intel has always been doing its absolute best to cater to the customer, just barely making a profit all of these years for our benefit, but alas, their efforts were in vain and it simply wasn't possible to do this any sooner.

5 minutes ago, Jito463 said:

Intel has had 6 cores for several years, just not on mainstream.  It's not like it's something new.  And considering AMD has had 6+ cores on mainstream for many years, I doubt it's something Intel couldn't have done.  They just chose not to.

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