4 core cpus dying?

[punkyard]

Hello there, I was wondering if the 4 core cpu's are dying and it's time to upgrade to a 6 or 8 core cpu.

 

I currently have a p9x79 pro motherboard with E5 1620 V2 XeoN with 32 GB of DDR3 Ram paired with a GTX 1080.

Since Ryzen launch i was wondering if it was time to upgrade to something newer. I am torn between Ryzen 1600x and 1700x. What should i get? or should i even consideran upgrade? 

[themctipers]

no.

4 core is mainstream still, 6/8 core for enthusiasts. slowly we're migrating to 6 core for mainstream.

 

stay put unless you do streaming/rendering on a more than twice a week basis

[Vegetable]

4c/8t will be plenty for gaming for at least 5 more years or so. By then 6 core will have been the mainstream for a couple years already, so hopefully games will start being optimized to use ALL dem cores by then

[Zando_]

@themctipers Is right. No reason to upgrade, unless you're not happy with your performance. if you're building a new PC, then get Ryzen or a higher core count Intel CPU, but you don't need to upgrade just for more cores. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

Dual cores are still going strong so quad cores aren't going away anytime soon.

[Brooksie359]

Yeah you should be fine with a 4c8t but the 4c4t are starting to struggle in certain cpu intensive games.

[sazrocks]

Don't upgrade if what you have now is working just fine.

[MyName13]

Ever heard of Pentium g4560?Quad cores will die maybe after 2 years after consoles get more than 4 cores (in 4-5 years probably).

[Guest]

36 minutes ago, punkyard said:

Hello there, I was wondering if the 4 core cpu's are dying and it's time to upgrade to a 6 or 8 core cpu.

 

I currently have a p9x79 pro motherboard with E5 1620 V2 XeoN with 32 GB of DDR3 Ram paired with a GTX 1080.

Since Ryzen launch i was wondering if it was time to upgrade to something newer. I am torn between Ryzen 1600x and 1700x. What should i get? or should i even consideran upgrade? 

4 core 4 threaded CPU's are dying off 

 

edit 

in terms of getting the most out of your GPU if its above 300$. 

[SCHISCHKA]

This is an area of computer science that is still developing. We have had consumer 8 core CPUs for years and still limited examples of a need for them. I remember when 2-core CPUs came out people were questioning if quad core CPUs were worth their price, but this was before Nvidia owned Physx and hardware acceleration was not mainstream. When you look into how a game works you will find most work that can be threaded will get passed to the GPU such as Nvidia's Physx. I reckon quad core CPUs will die if some game changing feature gets introduced to the industry that can be threaded, and I am not expecting this.

[Jz1]

6 will be the new mainstream soon, If Intel's refresh of 7700K and 7600K in the upcoming Coffee Lake is set to feature 6 cores, than that should say something imo.

[MyName13]

6 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

This is an area of computer science that is still developing. We have had consumer 8 core CPUs for years and still limited examples of a need for them. I remember when 2-core CPUs came out people were questioning if quad core CPUs were worth their price, but this was before Nvidia owned Physx and hardware acceleration was not mainstream. When you look into how a game works you will find most work that can be threaded will get passed to the GPU such as Nvidia's Physx. I reckon quad core CPUs will die if some game changing feature gets introduced to the industry that can be threaded, and I am not expecting this.

Are GPUs used for anything other than graphics?Is it used at least for physics but without nvidia's physx?

[Damascus]

27 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Ever heard of Pentium g4560?Quad cores will die maybe after 2 years after consoles get more than 4 cores (in 4-5 years probably).

Consoles have been running 8 cores for 2 generations, no?

[SCHISCHKA]

36 minutes ago, MyName13 said:

Are GPUs used for anything other than graphics?Is it used at least for physics but without nvidia's physx?

You can use a GPU for sciencey stuff, and anything that uses floating point numbers and vectors. Games are 99% floating point calculations.

There are other physics engines other than PhysX that are hardware accelerated. 

Physic engines are quite large and complex when you think about the computational power required to have every object in a scene interact with neighbouring objects in collisions and lighting, and this is most of a game. Game logic, sound, user-input, loading artwork from disk, and networking are small in comparison to physics and rendering.

I'm expecting better advancements in AI but I actually think computer game AI has gone backwards since half-life 1.

40 minutes ago, Damascus said:

Consoles have been running 8 cores for 2 generations, no?

Wikipedia says they have 2X 4 compute units and 8X compute units on the latest consoles, so yea 8 cores.

I think this is the correct document that shows the console CPU architecture http://www.hotchips.org/wp-content/uploads/hc_archives/hc24/HC24-1-Microprocessor/HC24.28.120-Jaguar-Rupley-AMD.pdf

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2 hours ago, MyName13 said:

Are GPUs used for anything other than graphics?Is it used at least for physics but without nvidia's physx?

Lots of things like A.I, machine learning, and research down to the molecular level. At least, that's the sort of thing the ones in the basement of my university are used for evidently.

 

[Princess Luna]

Well next gen on there will no longer be 4 cores i7 so yes in a way they are dead for good on high end, but 4 cores will remain capable enough CPUs, definitively if hyper-threaded.

 

[MyName13]

7 hours ago, Damascus said:

Consoles have been running 8 cores for 2 generations, no?

Not really, they have jaguars which have 4 nodules so they are basically 4c8t CPUs.The problem is that they are weak, you can't use them in the same way you'd use modern (Zen) cores, they might try to parallelise something but I don't see the point of it, once consoles get more than 4 MODERN cores they will definitely start using them.

 

6 hours ago, SCHISCHKA said:

You can use a GPU for sciencey stuff, and anything that uses floating point numbers and vectors. Games are 99% floating point calculations.

There are other physics engines other than PhysX that are hardware accelerated. 

Physic engines are quite large and complex when you think about the ...

I know GPUs can be used for physics, but are they used in gaming?If they are then how many of them do it?