Wait for 7740, get 7700k, or get new ryzen

[thatguyxx]

Should i wait for the intel 7740 or just get the 7700k or get one of those new ryzen 7 cpu....I will basically only use this for gaming so yeah...

[NoMercy]

Wait for 8700k.........

[The Sloth]

get the 7700k 

[Lord Nicoll]

2 minutes ago, NoMercy said:

Wait for 8700k.........

Hmm, Coffee Lake is still 14nm, so while they seem to have bought down power usage, I don't think it'll clock as well as the i7 7700K, I know mine was lucky to hit 5.2GHz, but I doubt they'll run that much faster, or close at all, boost is rumoured to be 4.3GHz

[m0k]

7700k

[NoMercy]

Just now, Lord Nicoll said:

Hmm, Coffee Lake is still 14nm, so while they seem to have bought down power usage, I don't think it'll clock as well as the i7 7700K, I know mine was lucky to hit 5.2GHz, but I doubt they'll run that much faster, or close at all, boost is rumoured to be 4.3GHz

Rumour CPU-Z screenshot showing ES of 8700k OC until 5ghz. Rumour though......

[Lord Nicoll]

Just now, NoMercy said:

Rumour CPU-Z screenshot showing ES of 8700k OC until 5ghz. Rumour though......

I wonder if they've sorted out the, em, temp issues, because adding two more cores and having otherwise the same core architecture, Oh boy, I have issues cooling this chip as is, add two more cores and it'll be lit... literally, on fire. 

[AvocadosGuac]

Ryzen 5/7 cpu's will last longer, and will have better minimums(this is where framerate matters. you hav have 100fps avg, but if you have an 11 min, it COULD be a very bad experience. 

[thatguyxx]

6 minutes ago, Jrock said:

Ryzen 5/7 cpu's will last longer, and will have better minimums(this is where framerate matters. you hav have 100fps avg, but if you have an 11 min, it COULD be a very bad experience. 

 

7 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

I wonder if they've sorted out the, em, temp issues, because adding two more cores and having otherwise the same core architecture, Oh boy, I have issues cooling this chip as is, add two more cores and it'll be lit... literally, on fire. 

 

8 minutes ago, NoMercy said:

Rumour CPU-Z screenshot showing ES of 8700k OC until 5ghz. Rumour though......

so for someone who is considered brain dead to all this pc language what does this mean for me? which one will give me most fps etc i will have 2 1080 ti and im still looking for a motherboard that will go with the cpu i pick/you guys recommend 

[Lord Nicoll]

Just now, thatguyxx said:

 

 

so for someone who is considered brain dead to all this pc language what does this mean for me? which one will give me most fps etc i will have 2 1080 ti and im still looking for a motherboard that will go with the cpu i pick/you guys recommend 

For gaming, i7 7700K now, for general computing (editing, productivity) Ryzen, the i7 7740X is a waste of money for X299, so either RYzen 1700 or 1600, or an i7 7700K. If it's just gaming you want, and only gaming, the i7 7700K or possibly upcoming i7 8700K will be where it's at. 

[NoMercy]

4 minutes ago, thatguyxx said:

 

 

so for someone who is considered brain dead to all this pc language what does this mean for me? which one will give me most fps etc i will have 2 1080 ti and im still looking for a motherboard that will go with the cpu i pick/you guys recommend 

Just get the 7700k then. You will definitely be happy, with everything above 200++ fps.

[done12many2]

9 minutes ago, Jrock said:

Ryzen 5/7 cpu's will last longer, and will have better minimums(this is where framerate matters. you hav have 100fps avg, but if you have an 11 min, it COULD be a very bad experience. 

 

Minimums go back and forth between the 7700k, 7740X and Ryzen CPUs.  I'm not sure how you can describe that as a Ryzen feature. 

 

Spoiler

 

 

[thatguyxx]

8 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

For gaming, i7 7700K now, for general computing (editing, productivity) Ryzen, the i7 7740X is a waste of money for X299, so either RYzen 1700 or 1600, or an i7 7700K. If it's just gaming you want, and only gaming, the i7 7700K or possibly upcoming i7 8700K will be where it's at. 

okie dokie ill go with i7 7700k, what do you recomend for a motherboard that can hold 2 gtx 1080 ti with sli and 2 hard drives and 1 ssd

[JoostinOnline]

It depends on which way you think the tides will turn.  Personally, I think Ryzen 1700 will beat the 7700K once games are optimized for it from the start.  We've seen how much a simple patch will do.  That being said, I could be wrong.  Maybe developers will stay 100% focused on quad core CPU's.  Octo-core gaming CPU's haven't really been a thing until this year.

 

You know the 7700K will get you good gaming performance.  The 1700 could get you much better performance in the future, but it could also stay the same as it is now.

[NoMercy]

10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It depends on which way you think the tides will turn.  Personally, I think Ryzen 1700 will beat the 7700K once games are optimized for it from the start.  We've seen how much a simple patch will do.  That being said, I could be wrong.  Maybe developers will stay 100% focused on quad core CPU's.  Octo-core gaming CPU's haven't really been a thing until this year.

 

You know the 7700K will get you good gaming performance.  The 1700 could get you much better performance in the future, but it could also stay the same as it is now.

I do think OP is buying CPU for now, not for future. By looking at his 1080 TI SLI, i do think he has the budget, and he can just upgrade his platform in the future.

[NoMercy]

25 minutes ago, thatguyxx said:

okie dokie ill go with i7 7700k, what do you recomend for a motherboard that can hold 2 gtx 1080 ti with sli and 2 hard drives and 1 ssd

Any high-end z270 board will do. If you want to do custom water cooling, especially good for running sli graphic cards and a hot 7700k, the asus maximus extreme is the most premium board you can get.

 

Otherwise, strix z270e gaming will do just the same.

[AvocadosGuac]

20 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It depends on which way you think the tides will turn.  Personally, I think Ryzen 1700 will beat the 7700K once games are optimized for it from the start.  We've seen how much a simple patch will do.  That being said, I could be wrong.  Maybe developers will stay 100% focused on quad core CPU's.  Octo-core gaming CPU's haven't really been a thing until this year.

 

You know the 7700K will get you good gaming performance.  The 1700 could get you much better performance in the future, but it could also stay the same as it is now.

Plus, it will last years to come due to 2x the cores...

[AvocadosGuac]

6 minutes ago, NoMercy said:

I do think OP is buying CPU for now, not for future. By looking at his 1080 TI SLI, i do think he has the budget, and he can just upgrade his platform in the future.

If i was spending that much on a pc, id expect it to last 6-7 years. a 7700k WILL NOT last 6-7 years.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Jrock said:

a 7700k WILL NOT last 6-7 years.

There's people gaming on Core2Duo E7500's.

[VagabondWraith]

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

There's people gaming on Core2Duo E7500's.

Hell, even Sandy Bridge competes today.

[NoMercy]

3 minutes ago, Jrock said:

If i was spending that much on a pc, id expect it to last 6-7 years. a 7700k WILL NOT last 6-7 years.

If you dont have the budget, it is better to spend seperately, every 3 years or so. Example: Buying one 1080ti then upgrade to 2080ti is better than buying 1080ti SLI and hope it last for 6-7 years.

 

You only buy 1080ti SLI if you are rich enough and you can actually afford to buy another 2080ti SLI in the future.

[VagabondWraith]

1 hour ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Hmm, Coffee Lake is still 14nm, so while they seem to have bought down power usage, I don't think it'll clock as well as the i7 7700K, I know mine was lucky to hit 5.2GHz, but I doubt they'll run that much faster, or close at all, boost is rumoured to be 4.3GHz

Here's the latest leaks for the 8700K.

 

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Exclusive: Intel® Core™ i7-8700K Specifications (Coffee Lake)

6C/12T
12MB L3
3.7 GHz Base
4.3 GHz 6-core Turbo
4.4 GHz 4-core Turbo
4.6 GHz 2-core Turbo
4.7 GHz 1-core Turbo
95W TDP

Disclaimer: The source this info comes from has provided accurate Intel leaks in the past. For now, treat it like a rumor, but rest assured I will let you know about any changes. No pricing (MSRP) information yet. Next in line, Core i5-8600K specifications.

 

 

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/intel-skylake-kaby-lake-coffee-lake-thread-skylake-x-reviews-out-page-501.2428363/page-547#post-39000209

 

[AvocadosGuac]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

There's people gaming on Core2Duo E7500's.

maybe 5 of them on this forum...

[AvocadosGuac]

4 minutes ago, VagabondWraith said:

Hell, even Sandy Bridge competes today.

Intel hasn't innovated very much in the last 7 years. Now AMD is a thing, cores n shit are going to skyrocket, just as they did when amd was an actual competitor. If 8core is high end of mainstream in 6-7 years 8 core (might) be mid range. 4 cores will be looked at like current dual cores.

[JoostinOnline]

2 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

Hell, even Sandy Bridge competes today.

Pretty sure Sandy Bridge is newer than Core 2 Duo's.

 

It's not a matter of "can".  You CAN game with an iGPU.  That doesn't mean a dGPU isn't better.  I played the Tomb Raider 2013 remake on an i5-4200M and the integrated GPU.  

 

Considering a 1700 does almost as well in gaming (when paired with fast RAM) as a 7700K, and the 1700's potential isn't being used, I think it's worth consideration.  They're both good options.  A 7700K will almost certainly do well for another 5 years at least.  A 1700 will probably do better though.

 

Anyway, I'm not saying for sure either way.  Whether or not he takes a risk on Ryzen is up to him.