Ryzen 5 1600x vs Intel i5 7600k for gaming?

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

2 minutes ago, Himommies said:

Imo 70 dollars for a extra 2 cores is worth it

 

4 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

No one is giving you legitimate reasons so here I come.

 

First off, don't get the 1600x, get the 1600. It comes with a decent stock cooler that can do some OCing and OCes just as well as a 1600x.

 

The reason I usually suggest Ryzen 5 to people rather than i5 CPUs is because of minimums. While i5s do still win when it comes to averages, Ryzen almost always has better minimums, which imo matters more. Would you rather have a consistent experience or one that is sometimes I great and sometimes not?

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2875-amd-r5-1600x-1500x-review-fading-i5-argument/page-4

 

Hence why nowadays I never recommend i5s for gaming.

1700 doesn't improve gaming performance at all compared to a 1600, I don't know why you're recommending it.

I think you guys are ill informed as i watched linuses ryzen 5 review a thousand times and the 1600x does not always have higher minimums when it comes to gaming it only wins half the time in the minimums and that is when it is overclocked to 4 Ghz that it wins half the time when the 7600k is overclocked to 4.5 Ghz it demolishes the Ryzen in every game. Even non-overclocked the 7600k has higher averages than the 1600x overclocked so for gaming stick with the i5 7600k.

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

5 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

That is right! But i am still going to the 1700X if i make a whole new system later on

The picture to make your statement perfect

sorry but I don't get your point :(.

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[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

sorry but I don't get your point :(.

It is the statistics of many coolers including the coolers that you mentioned

[Enderman]

15 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

yeah but even a Ryzen CPU could provide well over the refresh rate of most monitors. 

 

dual cores an iGPUs are enough for most Indie games. 

Having fps above the refresh rate of monitors is still good. Reduces the response time of your input.

[ravenshrike]

9 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

It's AMD's version of Turbo Boost. It's not worth it according to everyone on the forum.

It'll be interesting in 4 years to see if there's a difference in failure rate between X and non X parts.

[Psych Reaper]

10 minutes ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

Please look at my other post with recommended coolers at different price points, by the way, can you share your build with me so I can make suggestions?

My current build is: AMD Penom II 925, Nvidia GTX 460, Foxconn A88GMV, 8gb of DDR3 RAM, and 260 gb hard drive. 

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

Just now, Psych Reaper said:

My current build is: AMD Penom II 925, Nvidia GTX 460, Foxconn A88GMV, 8gb of DDR3 RAM, and 260 gb hard drive. 

I meant the build you are planning to make what is your budget by the way and what accessories do you have do you need a better monitor/ gaming headset/ keyboard/ wristrest/ mousepad/ bungee the list goes on. If you don't have a planned build give me a budget and I will compose a build in like 5/10 minutes. 

[Psych Reaper]

Just now, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

I meant the build you are planning to make what is your budget by the way and what accessories do you have do you need a better monitor/ gaming headset/ keyboard/ wristrest/ mousepad/ bungee the list goes on. If you don't have a planned build give me a budget and I will compose a build in like 5/10 minutes. 

Well the cpu choice is obvious from my post, but I am torn between the Ryzen 5 1600, and the I5 6700k. GPU, I was thinking a GTX 1060, and a mobo I have no clue what I want until I decide which cpu will be better. I have a okay monitor that I think I'm good with for now, and I have a generic back lit keyboard, and a walmart mouse lol. I think I'm good on peripherals for now. I just want to focus on building a gaming pc. I have a mid-tower right now, but I'm open to getting a new tower. My budget is $600 - $800 USD. I could go more, but I'd like to keep it as value-savvy as I can. 

[Mooshi]

It's not 2011 anymore. Last great quadcore was the i5 2500k, the Ryzen R5 1600 is the "new" 2500k in terms of value to performance being golden.

 

Don't bother with the X chips. Higher tdp with no gain and herp temp sensor adding +20c to the readings with a dumb offset.

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

4 minutes ago, Psych Reaper said:

Well the cpu choice is obvious from my post, but I am torn between the Ryzen 5 1600, and the I5 6700k. GPU, I was thinking a GTX 1060, and a mobo I have no clue what I want until I decide which cpu will be better. I have a okay monitor that I think I'm good with for now, and I have a generic back lit keyboard, and a walmart mouse lol. I think I'm good on peripherals for now. I just want to focus on building a gaming pc. I have a mid-tower right now, but I'm open to getting a new tower. My budget is $600 - $800 USD. I could go more, but I'd like to keep it as value-savvy as I can. 

Remember that new peripherals can improve your gaming experience as much as a good build. If I can fit a good keyboard and mouse and headset for under 800 can I put them in the build? Do you RGB if so how much on a scale of 1 to Cancer to Linus also what monitor do you have is it 1080, 720, how many hertz (refresh rate) thanks. By the way, I'm in us and it's 11 o'clock so I will sleep soon and go back on here tomorrow if you don't mind.

[Psych Reaper]

It's hard to fight off the insane amount of supporters for the Ryzen 5 1600, so I think I'll be going with that CPU. Besides, it'll be a massive upgrade from my Phenom II 925 regardless of which of the two cpus I choose. 

 

So what mobo should I be looking into now? I don't know anything about overclocking, but it seems quite possible. I'd like to get more years out of my components, rather than sacrifice lifetime for slight performance gains. So, I think OCing isn't a huge deal for me, as long as I can run the games at a decent rate, then I'll be a happy camper. 

 

Also, another question, should I just buy a whole new case and start from  scratch with this build, or should I recycle my tower and use it for the new parts? 

[Psych Reaper]

1 minute ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

Remember that new peripherals can improve your gaming experience as much as a good build. If I can fit a good keyboard and mouse and headset for under 800 can I put them in the build? Do you RGB if so how much on a scale of 1 to Cancer to Linus

Lmao, nah I don't really care about RGB that much. I have two blue lit fans on my case, and a blue backlit keyboard along with some cheap $25  blue headphones. They work pretty well to be just $25. I think they look nice, but I'm more into performance than aesthetics at this point. 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, Psych Reaper said:

Well the cpu choice is obvious from my post, but I am torn between the Ryzen 5 1600, and the I5 6700k. GPU, I was thinking a GTX 1060, and a mobo I have no clue what I want until I decide which cpu will be better. I have a okay monitor that I think I'm good with for now, and I have a generic back lit keyboard, and a walmart mouse lol. I think I'm good on peripherals for now. I just want to focus on building a gaming pc. I have a mid-tower right now, but I'm open to getting a new tower. My budget is $600 - $800 USD. I could go more, but I'd like to keep it as value-savvy as I can. 

the r5 1600 is going to be the cheaper and perform similar to the i5 in games while being much better at everything multi-threaded related. The better choice is the r5 from a value standpoint not even taking into account the extra cores and threads it has. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDytbj this is how much it would cost to get a good ryzen setup. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCGP7h here is what it would cost for the i5 setup. as you can see it is 100 dollars more expensive and for what? a slightly better gaming performance in some games and worse performance in everything else?

[ARikozuM]

7 minutes ago, Psych Reaper said:

Well the cpu choice is obvious from my post, but I am torn between the Ryzen 5 1600, and the I5 6700k. GPU, I was thinking a GTX 1060, and a mobo I have no clue what I want until I decide which cpu will be better. I have a okay monitor that I think I'm good with for now, and I have a generic back lit keyboard, and a walmart mouse lol. I think I'm good on peripherals for now. I just want to focus on building a gaming pc. I have a mid-tower right now, but I'm open to getting a new tower. My budget is $600 - $800 USD. I could go more, but I'd like to keep it as value-savvy as I can. 

What monitor do you have? With a $600 budget, I'd go with a G4560 (Z-270) and a 1060 until you can afford a 7700 (K).

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

2 minutes ago, Psych Reaper said:

It's hard to fight off the insane amount of supporters for the Ryzen 5 1600, so I think I'll be going with that CPU. Besides, it'll be a massive upgrade from my Phenom II 925 regardless of which of the two cpus I choose. 

 

So what mobo should I be looking into now? I don't know anything about overclocking, but it seems quite possible. I'd like to get more years out of my components, rather than sacrifice lifetime for slight performance gains. So, I think OCing isn't a huge deal for me, as long as I can run the games at a decent rate, then I'll be a happy camper. 

 

Also, another question, should I just buy a whole new case and start from  scratch with this build, or should I recycle my tower and use it for the new parts? 

What case do you have? Also OCing isn't dangerous if you keep the voltage reasonable, have a good cooler, and run a CPU at good temps under 80 and I think overclocking the 7600k will deliver better performance, and is more future proof if one day you want to upgrade to a top tier card vega/1080/1080ti.

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

4 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

the r5 1600 is going to be the cheaper and perform similar to the i5 in games while being much better at everything multi-threaded related. The better choice is the r5 from a value standpoint not even taking into account the extra cores and threads it has. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDytbj this is how much it would cost to get a good ryzen setup. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NCGP7h here is what it would cost for the i5 setup. as you can see it is 100 dollars more expensive and for what? a slightly better gaming performance in some games and worse performance in everything else?

it performs worse in games not similar

[NoMercy]

When you talk about gaming, what are your target

 

Resolution?

Refresh rate?

In-game graphic settings?

[Brooksie359]

3 minutes ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

it performs worse in games not similar

if its within 10% then id say similar. plus you wont even tell the difference unless you are at 1080p with a 1080 and even then it really depends on the game and settings.

[THE ABSURD BIRD]

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

if its within 10% then id say similar. plus you wont even tell the difference unless you are at 1080p with a 1080 and even then it really depends on the game and settings.

Not with OCing and for games like gta 5 the FPS is like 20%higher Oced than the ryzen

[Psych Reaper]

3 minutes ago, NoMercy said:

When you talk about gaming, what are your target

 

Resolution?

Refresh rate?

In-game graphic settings?

A mixture of them all? I don't want the top of the line running everything at super mega ultra settings. I'd be happy with high settings, and everything running perfectly smoothly at or around 60+ fps. 

[ARikozuM]

Let's not turn this into an AMD vs Intel benchmark debate. 

[Psych Reaper]

10 minutes ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

What case do you have? Also OCing isn't dangerous if you keep the voltage reasonable, have a good cooler, and run a CPU at good temps under 80 and I think overclocking the 7600k will deliver better performance, and is more future proof if one day you want to upgrade to a top tier card vega/1080/1080ti.

I have an old coolermaster case, not sure what exact model, but I bought this whole system as is from a friend for $200 in 2012, so it's pretty old. I don't really plan on going for top tier stuff, because I'm not interested in the best of the best. I just want to upgrade so that I can play all the new stuff at moderate settings. 

[Brooksie359]

Just now, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

Not with OCing and for games like gta 5 the FPS is like 20%higher Oced than the ryzen

for like 20% more in cost and that is if you have a good enough gpu to make it noticeable. 

[DocSwag]

31 minutes ago, THE ABSURD BIRD said:

 

I think you guys are ill informed as i watched linuses ryzen 5 review a thousand times and the 1600x does not always have higher minimums when it comes to gaming it only wins half the time in the minimums and that is when it is overclocked to 4 Ghz that it wins half the time when the 7600k is overclocked to 4.5 Ghz it demolishes the Ryzen in every game. Even non-overclocked the 7600k has higher averages than the 1600x overclocked so for gaming stick with the i5 7600k.

One thing to note, Linus used 97 percent lows whereas gamers nexus used 99% and 99.9% lows. As you move up percentages naturally the i5s are gonna look better since they have higher averages. As well, it's also worth mentioning that rise of the tomb raider, which showed a huge lead for Intel, has gotten an update that significantly boosts Ryzen performance.