Can this CPU hold up?

[Spork829]

A friend of mine has a low-end prebuilt with an A10-5800K APU. Among other games, he really wants to play Overwatch. He can only get about 20FPS right now with significant drops, which isn't really playable. I have my old GTX 760 I'm willing to sell him for cheap, but will it even help? Basically I'm asking do you guys think the bottleneck is the CPU or the iGPU in this case?

[Damascus]

Why don't you try it in thier system, like 5 minutes and you'll know

[Spork829]

Just now, Damascus said:

Why don't you try it in thier system, like 5 minutes and you'll know

He lives 4 hours away or I would have done just that.

 

4 minutes ago, UglyDuckiling said:

No it's trash.

The only reason I think a new GPU might help is that I had him boot up a bot game in OW and he said the CPU usage in task manager was only like 30-50%.

[DailyProcrastinator]

2 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

A friend of mine has a low-end prebuilt with an A10-5800K APU. Among other games, he really wants to play Overwatch. He can only get about 20FPS right now with significant drops, which isn't really playable. I have my old GTX 760 I'm willing to sell him for cheap, but will it even help? Basically I'm asking do you guys think the bottleneck is the CPU or the iGPU in this case?

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Yes, that will definitely help, and yes I would think the CPU is the bottleneck since it is using the onboard graphics. So a separate dedicated GPU will definitely help in game performance.

6 minutes ago, UglyDuckiling said:

No it's trash.

Really? Way to be an unhelpful ass.

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, Spork829 said:

The only reason I think a new GPU might help is that I had him boot up a bot game in OW and he said the CPU usage in task manager was only like 30-50%.

It will be an  improvement, a MASSIVE one.

 

 

[UglyDuckiling]

Just now, JM21 said:

Yes, that will definitely help, and yes I would think the CPU is the bottleneck since it is using the onboard graphics. So a separate dedicated GPU will definitely help in game performance.

Really? Way to be an unhelpful ass.

It is trash in 2017, based on a crappy low IPC architecture that is under the old Phenom II's in terms of performance.

[Damascus]

1 minute ago, UglyDuckiling said:

It is trash in 2017, based on a crappy low IPC architecture that is under the old Phenom II's in terms of performance.

Did you read the rest of the post?  OP wants to put a 760 in with the CPU

[DailyProcrastinator]

Just now, UglyDuckiling said:

It is trash in 2017, based on a crappy low IPC architecture that is under the old Phenom II's in terms of performance.

Yeah but that doesn't help does it, not everyone has the money to throw at a new system, and in this case a GPU would help a lot. Please explain to me how "No it's trash" even remotely helps answer the question.

[Damascus]

Wasn't asking how good it was, just wanted to know if it would help.  It will and your opinions on how bad it is are irrelevant and pointless

29 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

I have my old GTX 760 I'm willing to sell him for cheap, but will it even help?

 

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[UglyDuckiling]

Just now, Damascus said:

Wasn't asking how good it was, just wanted to know if it would help.  It will and your opinions on how bad it is are irrelevant and pointless

 

"will this cpu hold up"

 

No it will not, for one game is setting yourself up for failure, it will run like ass in almost any AAA game of today.

[aneil1998]

A better GPU will always help. I had a single core AMD Sempron 140 and was using it as i was waiting for my PC parts. I got my GPU and added it to the system and it helped alot. Sure it was bottlenecked but was still an improvement nonetheless. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

Okay so one person is no help at all and is being a dick and everyone else is saying it will help, there's your answer lol.

[Spork829]

4 minutes ago, UglyDuckiling said:

"will this cpu hold up"

 

No it will not, for one game is setting yourself up for failure, it will run like ass in almost any AAA game of today.

I appreciate your opinion about the CPU, but Damascus is right in that it's what he already has and he can barely afford my 760 and a new PSU with enough wattage to power it. He will upgrade down the line but I was asking if it will "hold up" as in be able to gain some FPS with a new GPU, or if the CPU speed was a hard limit. 

 

3 minutes ago, aneil1998 said:

A better GPU will always help. I had a single core AMD Sempron 140 and was using it as i was waiting for my PC parts. I got my GPU and added it to the system and it helped alot. Sure it was bottlenecked but was still an improvement nonetheless. 

 

12 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Yes, that will definitely help, and yes I would think the CPU is the bottleneck since it is using the onboard graphics. So a separate dedicated GPU will definitely help in game performance.

Really? Way to be an unhelpful ass.

 

12 minutes ago, Damascus said:

It will be an  improvement, a MASSIVE one.

 

 

Thanks guys for your help, I'll be happy to tell him it should help out.

[UglyDuckiling]

Glad you got an answer, respecting someones opinion goes a long way whether or not it suits you.

 

If it's plain stupid then sure, otherwise put up and shut up.

[ARikozuM]

22 minutes ago, Spork829 said:

A friend of mine has a low-end prebuilt with an A10-5800K APU. Among other games, he really wants to play Overwatch. He can only get about 20FPS right now with significant drops, which isn't really playable. I have my old GTX 760 I'm willing to sell him for cheap, but will it even help? Basically I'm asking do you guys think the bottleneck is the CPU or the iGPU in this case?

Tremendously more helpful.

 

Note: Not reading the thread since it's likely filled with "CPU BOTTLENECKSD!!3!@".

[Energycore]

1 hour ago, Spork829 said:

A friend of mine has a low-end prebuilt with an A10-5800K APU. Among other games, he really wants to play Overwatch. He can only get about 20FPS right now with significant drops, which isn't really playable. I have my old GTX 760 I'm willing to sell him for cheap, but will it even help? Basically I'm asking do you guys think the bottleneck is the CPU or the iGPU in this case?

There's an easy way to know: look at blizzard's official minimum specs

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/Overwatch-System-Requirements

The minimum is a Phenom (not a Phenom II, the original Phenom) X3. Suffice to say the A10-5800K is a race horse compared to that, your friend is mostly missing powerful graphics since the minimum listed is something like a GTX 460 which is still ahead of the 5800K's iGPU. So your 760 will give him a playable experience. How good we don't know until you test

[Spork829]

1 hour ago, Energycore said:

There's an easy way to know: look at blizzard's official minimum specs

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/Overwatch-System-Requirements

The minimum is a Phenom (not a Phenom II, the original Phenom) X3. Suffice to say the A10-5800K is a race horse compared to that, your friend is mostly missing powerful graphics since the minimum listed is something like a GTX 460 which is still ahead of the 5800K's iGPU. So your 760 will give him a playable experience. How good we don't know until you test

Awesome, thanks  

 

As soon as he has enough for my card + PSU we'll install it 

[Emberstone]

I have a friend with an AMD A6-3650 who previously couldn't play Overwatch due to the onboard graphics, but he threw a 1050 Ti in there (no extra power connectors and only a 300 watt PSU) and he's able to run on high settings with 60 fps no problem now. He could do Ultra since that card is more than capable for Overwatch, but the CPU is holding him back a little bit there.

 

With the A10, it should be a decent bit better than my friend's setup on the CPU front. He should be juuuuust fine for Overwatch with a GTX 760.

[He_162]

I just came from a thread where a dude killed a system, and everyone was so nice, then I came here. One minute my day was made, the next it was ruined because you people are getting angry, and treating others horribly simply because you don't like their older hardware, newsflash, not everyone has money, and not everyone has opportunity, answer their questions and be polite, chances are your new hardware has given you some kind of mindset that allows you to take for granted the things they cherish, and here you are insulting it, looking like an idiot.

Please people, let's be respectful.

Now, here, that CPU is capable of running battlefield 3, I know that for sure, provided it has a powerful enough CPU, so I assume it could easily run over watch with some optimization on that dedicated GPU, but no, you will want to get a better system / cpu in the future if you wish your friend to have an enjoyable time in future AAA games, it's just a little bad in the single core performance, which is what matters, I suggest either upgrading to Ryzen, or waiting for Intel Coffee Lake cpu's.