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Are MS business practices actually going to have you switch to Linux?

Are MS business practices actually going to have you switch to Linux?  

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  1. 1. Are you switching?

    • Yes
      24
    • No
      24
    • Will consider
      20


The only reason I still use windows are games. As soon as I can get hardware that supports it you can bet I'll go for kvm with gpu passthrough.

 

Aside from games, windows does nothing for me that I couldn't do on linux - often better.

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30 minutes ago, Sauron said:

As soon as I can get hardware that supports it you can bet I'll go for kvm with gpu passthrough.

You will still be running windows in that case, just in a VM. I doubt that MS cares whether or not you run their OS on bare metal or in a VM, as long as they can sell you a license.

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46 minutes ago, Urishima said:

You will still be running windows in that case, just in a VM. I doubt that MS cares whether or not you run their OS on bare metal or in a VM, as long as they can sell you a license.

I don't care what microsoft wants, I care about my usage experience. I already have a license so that's a non issue.

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I know it's a small sample size, but the poll so far is showing interesting results.

 

I expected a much stronger showing to stay on Windows.

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I know it's a small sample size, but the poll so far is showing interesting results.

 

I expected a much stronger showing to stay on Windows.

I'd bet 80% who said they're switching to Linux:

  • are lying
  • were going to switch regardless
  • want to but aren't going to and just want to be cool

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I made the switch a while back. It's a pretty good time too as well:

  • Ubuntu is very stable
  • Software available that allows you to play windows games on linux
  • no more dealing with Microsoft's increasingly questionable decisions
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No, but they will make me Hackintosh my PC and switch it to MacOS. Its simply a better OS compared to Linux. More apps, more support, better features, etc. Only downfall of MacOS is the work arounds you have to do to get it run on any non-mac computer and lack of official game support. 

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On 5/8/2017 at 4:18 AM, Droidbot said:

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This is why every developer is creating their own sniffers. (Battleye, Easy-Anticheat, etc.)

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I work for a games developer and it's all written and hosted on Linux. Software runs from Ubuntu, Blender, Gimp, Inkscape, DarkTable (awesome), render farm etc. Software dev is javascript (nodejs, 3d libs), Eclipse, IDEA, VSCode, Java, etc.

 

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The one thing on Linux that has changed everything for us is Docker. This has transformed our development. We now run our software in Docker containers orchestrated with Kubernetes. This is what Google uses to shuffle software around its million plus servers.

 

We would never even think of using Windows for any of this stuff. This is all battle tested in production. We also have centrally managed software updates.

 

We have all sorts of hardware connected to our Linux desktops from printers, scanners, video capture, some huge monitors for the 3D stuff. SANs using 40Gbe adapters getting insane throughout.

 

When I hear people saying that Linux is not ready, I just utter "bollox" under my breath. I've been using Linux since Ubuntu 5.10 (nearly 12 years) at home and at work and would NEVER switch back. I've never paid for an OS in my life (money wise). I do contribute back to open source projects when I can though (code, testing, docs).

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On 2017-05-13 at 3:17 PM, kango_v said:

When I hear people saying that Linux is not ready, I just utter "bollox" under my breath.

I'm not British so I whisper "Bullshit" but I feel the same way, the people who say that don't have a clue.

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I've been evaluating my options for a while, so I'm in the "will consider" camp. I'm using Windows 10 as my main desktop OS at the moment, and that isn't going to change overnight. My constant fighting with it to do what I want to do, and when, not what MS thinks I should do, is a friction point that wasn't present in Win7. I'm not sure the advantages of Win10 outweigh the disadvantages of older Win7, but the EOL of Win7 is visible on the horizon so is no solution looking forwards.

 

If I break up my usage there are two parts:

1, gaming

2, everything else

 

There is no reason I can't switch today to another OS for #2. I have experimented with various Linux and hackintosh (as tester, would buying real hardware if I like it), and either could do. I've checked my paid for software, and MacOS is better supported should I switch. However, is the grass really greener on the other side? The various Linux and MacOS have their different quirks. Am I switching one set of annoyances for a new set? My level of understanding of either is still far below Windows levels, and there will be new pain involved in figuring out how to do stuff beyond the basics.

 

Gaming is still heavily Windows dominated. Even if my day to day OS were switched, I would see myself keeping a Windows system for gaming, at least until MS ruins that too by dumbing it down to Xbox levels, then we're all screwed.

 

I also tried SteamOS, and it is pretty slick and works. The problem remains that there aren't enough releases on Linux.

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I'm dual Booting Mint Mate and Windoze on two potato laptops we had lying around. Linux is nice since I actually get that traditionally Apple feeling of "it just works" (that doesn't exist with Apple anymore) 

 

My main desktop is W10 pro and I'm actually really happy with it, much less frustrating than 8.1 and if you have the hardware to back it up it's really smooth 

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2 hours ago, Froody129 said:

I'm dual Booting Mint Mate and Windoze on two potato laptops we had lying around. Linux is nice since I actually get that traditionally Apple feeling of "it just works" (that doesn't exist with Apple anymore) 

 

My main desktop is W10 pro and I'm actually really happy with it, much less frustrating than 8.1 and if you have the hardware to back it up it's really smooth 

I quite enjoy Windows 10 personally. The improved Snap features are quite nice when you have multiple windows open, and the included multi-desktop feature is great - it has been with Mac OS for some time, but it's still nice to have, even though I personally never use it, but maybe I'll force myself to use it one day. 

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Been considering it for years, but until I get a full adobe suite or viable alternative (too many pieces of the puzzle missing) , and I could play the bulk of my game library on there, im stuck with Windows.

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I've tried switching, unfortunately though, my hardware doesn't get along well with Linux.

My procrastination is the bane of my existence.

I make games and stuff in my spare time.

 

 

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until steam on linux can run every single game in my library (and my folder of alternatively acquired video games) , i'm staying with windows

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19 minutes ago, mikat said:

I switched to linux for programming and then back again with the creators update & WSL stuff, windows + linux terminal = all I need 

forgot about this until you mentcioned it, just installed it on my machine. Pretty cool. Already trying to work out how to get GTK graphical stuff working haha.

 

sauerbraten on windows would be cool :)

 

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51 minutes ago, DnFx91 said:

forgot about this until you mentcioned it, just installed it on my machine. Pretty cool. Already trying to work out how to get GTK graphical stuff working haha.

 

sauerbraten on windows would be cool :)

 

All I need is the terminal, installed Zsh & my favorite prompt (pure) and everything is very nice :D

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Just now, mikat said:

All I need is the terminal, installed Zsh & my favorite prompt (pure) and everything is very nice :D

seeing neofetch inside windows is amusing

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Home PC:

CPU: i7 4790s ~ Motherboard: Asus B85M-E ~ RAM: 32GB Ballistix Sport DDR3 1666 ~ GPU: Sapphire R9 390 Nitro ~ Case: Corsair Carbide Spec-03 ~ Storage: Kingston Predator 240GB   PCIE M.2 Boot, 2TB HDD, 3x 480GB SATA SSD's in RAID 0 ~ PSU:    Corsair CX600
Display(s): Asus PB287Q , Generic Samsung 1080p 22" ~ Cooling: Arctic T3 Air Cooler, All case fans replaced with Noctua NF-B9 Redux's ~ Keyboard: Logitech G810 Orion ~ Mouse: Cheap Microsoft Wired (i like it) ~ Sound: Radial Pro USB DAC into 250w Powered Speakers ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64
 

Work PC:

CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1275 v3 ~ Motherboard: Asrock E3C226D2I ~ RAM: 16GB DDR3 ~ GPU: GTX 460 ~ Case: Silverstone SG05 ~ Storage: 512GB SATA SSD ~ Displays: 3x1080p 24" mix and matched Dell monitors plus a 10" 1080p lilliput monitor above ~ Operating System: Windows 10 Enterprise x64

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On 2017-5-19 at 0:08 AM, mikat said:

yup

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On my personal machine, I've switched to Debian for everything except games that only work in Windows.  I use hardware pass through to run Windows in a VM for gaming.  However, I am stuck using Windows at work all day as our environment is 99.999% Windows.

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i made the switch as soon as all the privacy stuff came up... way to scary.. now happily running ubuntu!

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