AMD RX580 or NVIDIA GTX 1060

[Alinass]

Hey guys i am looking to invest in any of these which one should i get? 

(budget is no issue since both are nearly the same price)

[Wrb]

580 because of the higher vram and DX12 for the future. They both do about the same now.

[Alinass]

ya that is what i was thinking as well thanks for the reply

 

[HKZeroFive]

If FreeSync isn't a concern, get the cheapest between the two.

[NicholasNicholasNicholas]

23 minutes ago, Alinass said:

Hey guys i am looking to invest in any of these which one should i get? 

(budget is no issue since both are nearly the same price)

 

580. itll do beter in the future and it beats the 1060 in a lot of games

[JoostinOnline]

You could also get a 480 and flash it.  Free upgrade: http://www.pcgamer.com/you-can-turn-your-radeon-rx-480-into-an-rx-580-with-a-bios-flash/

[crzyces]

14 minutes ago, HKZeroFive said:

If FreeSync isn't a concern, get the cheapest between the two.

I almost always say rx580, and if you choose a freesync display instead of G-sync. Freesync is common in most monitors as it's literally a $5 module with no licensing fee, where-as NVidea charges various amounts per proprietary module depending on screen size, type, res, refresh etc. and also forces the manufacturer to pay a licensing fee too use the NVidea proprietary module THEY ALREADY BOUGHT FROM Nvidea?!? Makes me mad. Add to that, they will be commonplace in TV's soon do to AMD/Radeon Technologies signing on for the next two gens of consoles with Sony and Microsoft (and Intel's new APU graphics for their CPU's starting either this coming gen or the next, I forget), means freesync will be everywhere for pennies on the dollar (literally).

 

Yeah, performance the 580 8gb has just nudged ahead in most games, even dx11 over the 1060 SCC atm, and that is without the extra VRAM usually mattering in those games, as DX12/Vulkan becomes more and more common, more VRAM being needed in the future, the 580 is the way to go. If it's a holdover until next year, whichever is cheaper, if you have a G-sync already, then get the 1060 SCC 6 GB.

[crzyces]

10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

You could also get a 480 and flash it.  Free upgrade: http://www.pcgamer.com/you-can-turn-your-radeon-rx-480-into-an-rx-580-with-a-bios-flash/

The 8 GB Gigabyte OC'd Gaming rx 580 is $218 right this very second.

[JoostinOnline]

10 minutes ago, crzyces said:

The 8 GB Gigabyte OC'd Gaming rx 580 is $218 right this very second.

Probably because Gigabyte is a shitty brand.  Of course if you can get it in a good brand for less than or equal to the 480 equivalent, definitely do it. I was just saying it's an option.

[crzyces]

17 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

Probably because Gigabyte is a shitty brand.  Of course if you can get it in a good brand for less than or equal to the 480 equivalent, definitely do it. I was just saying it's an option.

If you say so. I can think of about 10 other respected tech channels off the top of my head that would say you were ignorant (not stupid, ill-informed). Anyway, the Powercolor Red Dragon and MSI Armor were also 219 yesterday. They have both gone up too $228 and $229 respectively. I guess they "Shitty" brands as well?

Edited May 7, 2017 by crzyces
The Gigabyte model that is $219 today is not the OC'd version, just the normal gaming.

[JoostinOnline]

7 minutes ago, crzyces said:

If you say so. I can think of about 10 other respected tech channels that would say you were ignorant (not stupid, ill-informed). Anyway, the Powercolor Red Dragon and MSI Armor were also 219 yesterday. They have both gone up too $228 and $229 respectively. I guess they "Shitty" brands as well?

Powercolor is meh, MSI is great.

 

Gigabyte has a tendency to include really cheap fans, or (with other hardware) stop updating drivers too soon.

 

Edit: I should point out that I'm sure they've made some fine products.  You probably own something fine by them.  However, they've gained a negative reputation in the past few years.

Edited May 7, 2017 by JoostinOnline

[GirlFromYonder]

6 hours ago, Alinass said:

Hey guys i am looking to invest in any of these which one should i get? 

(budget is no issue since both are nearly the same price)

RX 580. Same performance today better performance tomorrow

[Darkseth]

RX 580 beats a GTX 1060 by a few single %, while the 1060 beats a RX 480 in a few single % (overall 27 games).

 

Overall.. doesn't matter. Depends which one is cheaper, quieter, better Overclockable, Power consumption, which driver you like more, which games you play...

 

You will NOT notice the few % performance differences, not now, not in 2 years. No matter, which one of them raises 2-3% higher than the other ^^

 

I personally would get the RX 580, because it supports Freesync, and you will be able to get a Freesync monitor MUCH cheaper, than a G-Sync monitor (that starts at 400+ bucks). Which is the Main reason i would get it.

 

 

Btw for recommendations for a RX 580:

#1: Nitro+ / Asus strix. Both one of the quietest, and good temperatures. (Nitro+ was horrible on the RX 480, this time they did REALLY good)

 

MSI Gaming X is sadly worse than last year, and noticeable louder than Nitro+ / Asus Strix.

[Princess Luna]

XFX or Sapphire RX 580 all the way

[30op]

I'd get an rx480 or save for a 1070 as they aren't much more expensive than a 1060 (in the UK)

[SlaughterSmurf]

They are perform the same right now, but AMD cards have tended to scale better over the years, and the RX580 has 8GB of Vram. So I'd get that one. 

[bakidota]

a bunch of these people are from canada so ofc they will tell you get amd, but i suggest you check benchmarks and see for yourself that a 1060 beats the 580 in most games, and lets not talk about power consumption, a 580 consumes power as much as a gtx1080 founders edition LULz

[Andrew Sh]

10 hours ago, Alinass said:

Hey guys i am looking to invest in any of these which one should i get? 

(budget is no issue since both are nearly the same price)

Going to share my unpopular opinion and say gtx 1060.

True there is a slight lead in performance for the 580, but it does this at a large power draw increase and more heat. 

I own a sapphire 480 atm and sort of regret buying it. The GPU kind of feels sluggish for the performance it has. Minor stutters every now and then (and no, rest of cpu doesnt bottleneck it. I7 4790k, 16gb ram 2133/9, ssd). also a bit audible if not wearing headphones. Gets a little hot (pushes 80 sometimes). 

A very important thing I missed was, what games that I play are faster on the 1060 and sadly it turned out the games that the 480 wins in, are not ones that I play. Don't think it'll be any different in 580

[Polakki]

GTX 1060.

[Qwerty2323]

AMD cards also heat up house in winter

[Morgan MLGman]

8 minutes ago, Qwerty2323 said:

AMD cards also heat up house in winter

Yeah, all cards do, technically speaking. Your point?

[crzyces]

1 hour ago, Morgan MLGman said:

Yeah, all cards do, technically speaking. Your point?

I guess the point is, both cards are good. They get hot. When the rx 480 came out with a 6 pin connector it got very hot. People still think "It got hot at release. No way they could have changed cooling or molex connections. That would be, oh idk, common sense? The RX series is less power efficient. The RX 480/580 4gb>1060 3gb in about 75% of games. The 8 gig 580's or flashed 480's > than 1060 SSC in about 70%. This makes some NVidea fans mad.

[crzyces]

5 hours ago, bakidota said:

a bunch of these people are from canada so ofc they will tell you get amd, but i suggest you check benchmarks and see for yourself that a 1060 beats the 580 in most games, and lets not talk about power consumption, a 580 consumes power as much as a gtx1080 founders edition LULz

I agree. He should watch some bench,arks from the last couple of weeks. Watch the games played. If most are configured for NV, that's kinda a benchmarking issue. There is a difference in configured for and supported by when describing a game.

 

Most Red sites have been pretty honest with benchmarks. Most green sites (even the ones that claim not to be are less unbiased. I think it's because most have owned NVidea's since the 700 line) favor lean, intentionally or not, towards avoiding games unless they know NV does well in them.

 

Some are really bad. I was watching a benchmark video the other day. You have to keep an eye on the clock speeds and voltage, as I've un-subbed from 7 sites in the last month for their undervolting/underclocking AMD cards. 1 went so far as to use an underclocked 570, and when I asked about it via twitter, because something was very very wrong with the results, it turned out to be a 570 mini 4gb, the description of the video was changed, but 570 4GB vs stock radeon 580 8GB vs 1060 SCC 6GB made it look silly. Didn't matter, as the 580 still lost in all but 2 games out of 11. Another was using a 1070 as their 1060 in some DX 12 games. The VRAM gave it away. Idiot. These were tech sites with over 50k subscribers. That's not right. (There are plenty of sites that test the 570 against the 1060 which is fine, just list it and be honest; a $220 usd card should beat a $170usd card).

 

The 27 game benchmark test seems like it is always on point, the best card winning 14 or so, 3 too close to call, the other winning 10 (give or take on the numbers). The most recent non-biased site reviews were a bit different (there are 5 that come to mind: if the 1060 was OC'd too 2000, the 580 was oc'd too 1450-1500. None of this GTX 1060 running at 2k and the 580 running at 1110 nonsense. That being the case, apples for apples, the AMD chip won about 75% this time. A big shift from "Whoever has the latest drivers wins 6 out of 10.

 

Still, besides a few games, the scores are still so close, if it is a card I can only use this month, I'm picking the least expensive 6 or 8 GB model.

[bakidota]

1 hour ago, crzyces said:

I agree. He should watch some bench,arks from the last couple of weeks. Watch the games played. If most are configured for NV, that's kinda a benchmarking issue. There is a difference in configured for and supported by when describing a game.

 

Most Red sites have been pretty honest with benchmarks. Most green sites (even the ones that claim not to be are less unbiased. I think it's because most have owned NVidea's since the 700 line) favor lean, intentionally or not, towards avoiding games unless they know NV does well in them.

 

Some are really bad. I was watching a benchmark video the other day. You have to keep an eye on the clock speeds and voltage, as I've un-subbed from 7 sites in the last month for their undervolting/underclocking AMD cards. 1 went so far as to use an underclocked 570, and when I asked about it via twitter, because something was very very wrong with the results, it turned out to be a 570 mini 4gb, the description of the video was changed, but 570 4GB vs stock radeon 580 8GB vs 1060 SCC 6GB made it look silly. Didn't matter, as the 580 still lost in all but 2 games out of 11. Another was using a 1070 as their 1060 in some DX 12 games. The VRAM gave it away. Idiot. These were tech sites with over 50k subscribers. That's not right. (There are plenty of sites that test the 570 against the 1060 which is fine, just list it and be honest; a $220 usd card should beat a $170usd card).

 

The 27 game benchmark test seems like it is always on point, the best card winning 14 or so, 3 too close to call, the other winning 10 (give or take on the numbers). The most recent non-biased site reviews were a bit different (there are 5 that come to mind: if the 1060 was OC'd too 2000, the 580 was oc'd too 1450-1500. None of this GTX 1060 running at 2k and the 580 running at 1110 nonsense. That being the case, apples for apples, the AMD chip won about 75% this time. A big shift from "Whoever has the latest drivers wins 6 out of 10.

 

Still, besides a few games, the scores are still so close, if it is a card I can only use this month, I'm picking the least expensive 6 or 8 GB model.

why check 1231311231 websites when you can just watch gamers nexus 580 review, they are most legit review source in USA, not to mention their testing methodology is far more superior than anyone else, BTW you didn't even comment about the 580 consuming as much power as a gtx1080 founders edition card, which proves my point Canadian people on this forum lure others to buy their homemade products.

[Qwerty2323]

On 2017-5-8 at 0:39 AM, Morgan MLGman said:

Yeah, all cards do, technically speaking. Your point?

My friends 480 is like smoking hot while my 960 is very chilly card and heat is kinda big issue in small rooms.