Is it possible to send any type of data connection through any type of wire?

[babadoctor]

Can I send any type of connection through a telephone line?

Does anyone know if it is possible to send a VGA, SVIDEO, or DVI-D connection through a telephone wire?

 

Is it possible to send usb data over telephone wires? If not, why not? I know for a fact USB 2.0 utilizes only 4 contacts on the thing itself...

Also, can i run anything through cable lines?

If I can't do this, why not? I assume that the number of wires isnt an issue as someone figured out how to send ethernet data over telephone wires, and ethernet cables(cat 5e) have 8 wires in them.

 

Thanks

[EunSoo]

Before I answer, what exactly are you trying to do or is this a hypothetical question.

[Lurick]

Possible? Sure, anything's possible. Feasible, not really, or at least not without a converter for each different scenario. As for USB there are people who've done that but what you have to remember is the distance limitation does not go away just because you're using different medium, it's still just a few feet for USB. There are MoCA adapters that allow you to send data through cable lines as well.

[RadiatingLight]

technically yes, practically no, because nobody supports sending Ethernet traffic over HDMI or something.

[tt2468]

13 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

Before I answer, what exactly are you trying to do or is this a hypothetical question.

Probably hypothetical based on his profile pic

[ARikozuM]

You can. The limitation is primarily bandwidth and conversion or compression of data from one end to the other. Ethernet via HDMI is the first example I can think of, but both ends need to support the standard and bandwidth.

[agent_x007]

Short answer : No.
You cannot use fiber/optical cables, to send a electric current.
Also, you can't establish a optical connection (laser light), through copper wire/cable.

Other that, you basicly ask a question can a metal use in wires conduct electricity.
So in practive it depends on wire (lenght mainly), and current/signal you want to send

[Maxinfamily]

Well, everything is possible, as long as you are willing to programm your own driver

[Maxinfamily]

Drivers are the things which allow your PC to recognise whats coming through the ports.

 

 

Sorry to post twice, I don't know how to edit in the mobile u.u

[ARikozuM]

2 minutes ago, Maxinfamily said:

Sorry to post twice, I don't know how to edit in the mobile u.u

Pencil icon.

[Maxinfamily]

7 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Pencil icon.

I know where It is on the pc but... Wheres on the mobile?

[ARikozuM]

Blame it on the Android OS?

[Mornincupofhate]

2 hours ago, babadoctor said:

Can I send any type of connection through a telephone line?

Does anyone know if it is possible to send a VGA, SVIDEO, or DVI-D connection through a telephone wire?

 

Is it possible to send usb data over telephone wires? If not, why not? I know for a fact USB 2.0 utilizes only 4 contacts on the thing itself...

Also, can i run anything through cable lines?

If I can't do this, why not? I assume that the number of wires isnt an issue as someone figured out how to send ethernet data over telephone wires, and ethernet cables(cat 5e) have 8 wires in them.

 

Thanks

It's possible to send network traffic over telephone lines. It's also to accept ethernet traffic using a USB port. 

I'd say so, but it probably involves the manufacturer tweaking it.

[babadoctor]

2 hours ago, SCGazelle said:

Before I answer, what exactly are you trying to do or is this a hypothetical question.

This is a hypothetical question that could turn into a little project I could work on in my free time; as my house already has cable and telephone wires running through it which are currently not in use, and I thought, maybe I could utilize them instead of ripping them out. (sorry for the run on sentence) 

2 hours ago, Lurick said:

Possible? Sure, anything's possible. Feasible, not really, or at least not without a converter for each different scenario. As for USB there are people who've done that but what you have to remember is the distance limitation does not go away just because you're using different medium, it's still just a few feet for USB. There are MoCA adapters that allow you to send data through cable lines as well.

Is there a distance limit for data transmission over cable wires?

1 hour ago, ARikozuM said:

You can. The limitation is primarily bandwidth and conversion or compression of data from one end to the other. Ethernet via HDMI is the first example I can think of, but both ends need to support the standard and bandwidth.

Is there a medium where this doesn't apply as much?

1 hour ago, agent_x007 said:

Short answer : No.
You cannot use fiber/optical cables, to send a electric current.
Also, you can't establish a optical connection (laser light), through copper wire/cable.

Other that, you basicly ask a question can a metal use in wires conduct electricity.
So in practive it depends on wire (lenght mainly), and current/signal you want to send

I see

[Maxinfamily]

3 minutes ago, ARikozuM said:

Blame it on the Android OS?

Regarding my problem? I dont think so. I would that a lazy programmer is to blame

[Lurick]

Just now, babadoctor said:

This is a hypothetical question that could turn into a little project I could work on in my free time; as my house already has cable and telephone wires running through it which are currently not in use, and I thought, maybe I could utilize them instead of ripping them out. (sorry for the run on sentence) 

Is there a distance limit for data transmission over cable wires?

Is there a medium where this doesn't apply as much?

You can use MoCA adapters to utilize the cable but I'm not sure on the speed limitations or recrimp the telephone lines with Ethernet jacks but in that case you'll be limited to 100Mbps.

The distance limit is all about the electrical signal being sent into the line, weaker signal means less distance. For a MoCA adapter I would say 50 to 100 meters give or take.

[babadoctor]

I would hypothetically use the telephone wires as a vga connection so I could run it over a long distance, such as from a computer in a far away room to a room in the living room.

[Maxinfamily]

1 hour ago, agent_x007 said:

Short answer : No.
You cannot use fiber/optical cables, to send a electric current.
Also, you can't establish a optical connection (laser light), through copper wire/cable.

Other that, you basicly ask a question can a metal use in wires conduct electricity.
So in practive it depends on wire (lenght mainly), and current/signal you want to send

Thats not enterely true. You can desing a driver so you transform video signal in an optical signal, and then another driver which does the inverse function, just as happends with the audii signal and optical cables. As long as theres a driver which does the job and the length is within the cable's limit, you can do It.

[EunSoo]

3 minutes ago, Maxinfamily said:

Regarding my problem? I dont think so. I would that a lazy programmer is to blame

shows up on my phone. Refreshing doesn't fix it?

[Lurick]

3 minutes ago, babadoctor said:

I would hypothetically use the telephone wires as a vga connection so I could run it over a long distance, such as from a computer in a far away room to a room in the living room.

Then you would need a converter to convert the VGA signal to travel along the cable.

Something like this should work: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=13350

[Maxinfamily]

2 minutes ago, babadoctor said:

I would hypothetically use the telephone wires as a vga connection so I could run it over a long distance, such as from a computer in a far away room to a room in the living room.

You can buy functional VGA cables and amplifiers to achieve that. Check that thread and the info thrown there. https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?t=36570

[Maxinfamily]

8 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

shows up on my phone. Refreshing doesn't fix it?

Noo D: Which browser do you use?

[EunSoo]

Just now, Maxinfamily said:

Noo D: Which browser do you use?

chrome beta

[babadoctor]

8 minutes ago, Lurick said:

Then you would need a converter to convert the VGA signal to travel along the cable.

Something like this should work: https://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_id=13350

Solution: buy this adapter and make the ethernet cable run over phone cable with this article:

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/use-of-abandoned-phone-wiring-for-ethernet-connections-581415/

Thank you all very much!

[Maxinfamily]

12 hours ago, SCGazelle said:

chrome beta

Thanks Ill try It!