Sony XZ Premium-The first Smartphone with a Snapdragon 835

[DocSwag]

Source: http://www.anandtech.com/show/11162/sony-xperia-xz-and-xperia-xzs-phones-for-us-market

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Sony announced today at MWC 2017 that it’s bringing two new premium phones to the US market: the Xperia XZ Premium and Xperia XZs. Both models employ classic Sony styling—a rectangular shape with rounded sides and a flat top and bottom. They also have an aluminum frame sandwiched between front and rear Gorilla glass panels.

 

There are a few significant differences between the new Xperias. For starters, the XZ Premium will use Qualcomm’s latest Snapdragon 835 SoC, the first to use semi-custom ARM CPU cores and the first SoC available on Samsung’s new 10nm process. The XZs will use the previous generation Snapdragon 820, which uses four fully-custom Kryo CPU cores.

New Sony Xperia XZ Series
	Sony Xperia XZ Premium	Sony Xperia XZs
SoC	Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 (MSM8998) 4x Kryo 280 Performance @ 2.45GHz 4x Kryo 280 Efficiency @ 1.90GHz Adreno 540	Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 (MSM8996) 2x Kryo @ 2.15GHz 2x Kryo @ 1.59GHz Adreno 530 @ 624MHz
Display	5.5-inch 3840x2160 HDR IPS LCD	5.2-inch 1920x1080 IPS LCD
Dimensions	156.0  x 77.0 x 7.9 mm 195 grams	146.0 x 72.0 x 8.1 mm 161 grams
RAM	4GB LPDDR4x	4GB LPDDR4
NAND	64GB + microSD	32GB / 64GB + microSD
Battery	3230 mAh non-replaceable	2900 mAh non-replaceable
Front Camera	13MP, 1/3.06" Sony Exmor RS, f/2.0	13MP, 1/3.06" Sony Exmor RS, f/2.0
Rear Camera	19MP, 1/2.3" Sony Exmor RS	19MP, 1/2.3" Sony Exmor RS
Modem	Qualcomm X16 (Integrated) 2G / 3G / 4G LTE (Category 16/13)	Qualcomm X12 (Integrated) 2G / 3G / 4G LTE (Category 9/13)
SIM Size	NanoSIM (Dual SIM option)	NanoSIM (Dual SIM option)
Wireless	Wi-Fi, BT 4.2, NFC, GPS/Glonass	Wi-Fi, BT 4.2, NFC, GPS/Glonass
Connectivity	USB 3.1 Type-C, 3.5mm headset	USB Type-C, 3.5mm headset
Additional Features	QC 3.0 fast charging, IP68 environment protection, high-resolution audio, stereo front-facing speakers	QC 3.0 fast charging, IP68 environment protection, high-resolution audio, stereo front-facing speakers
Launch OS	Android 7.1	Android 7.1

 

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The XZ Premium is the larger of the two with a 5.5-inch TRILUMINOS display, which is notable for being the first panel to combine 4K resolution with HDR image support. It will be interesting to see if the display runs at 4K all the time or just when watching 4K content, scaling back to 1080p otherwise. The XZs puts a 5.2-inch 1080p TRILUMINOS display into a smaller chassis. Both displays support Sony’s X-Reality picture engine and Dynamic Contrast Enhancement technology.

 

Sealed inside the XZ Premium is 3230 mAh battery, which is a little smaller than I would like to see for a 5.5-inch class phone with a high-resolution 4K display. A smaller chassis means an even smaller battery for the XZs at 2900 mAh. Based solely on this information, I’m a little concerned about battery life, but we’ll have to wait until devices start shipping to see how long they last. Both phones at least support Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 fast charging.

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The Xperia XZ Premium comes in two colors—Luminous Chrome and Deepsea Black—while the Xperia XZs offers three color options—Ice Blue, Warm Silver, and Black. The XZs will be available at select retailers, including Amazon and Best Buy, on April 5 for $699.99 (64GB). The XZ Premium will need to wait for the Snapdragon 835 SoC to become available, so it will not go on sale until later in the spring. Sony is not listing a price for it either, but it will most certainly cost more than the XZs.

Well, it looks like Sony kept the 4k display, however what I'm more interested in is the 835. We haven't seen any benchmarks of it and I wonder how well it will perform. What are you guys's thoughts?

[Rupe]

Good news for Sony having the first 835. Shame LG could not get one in their G6. This would definitely be the phone i would buy as it has both an 835 and a headphone jack. I'm looking at you Samsung S8.

[thebrownieguy]

Just now, Rupe said:

Good news for Sony having the first 835. Shame LG could not get one in their G6. This would definitely be the phone i would buy as it has both an 835 and a headphone jack. I'm looking at you Samsung S8.

Tru. Always liked samsung but not being able to use headphones just sucks. Why follow apple?

[TidaLWaveZ]

16 minutes ago, Rupe said:

Good news for Sony having the first 835. Shame LG could not get one in their G6. This would definitely be the phone i would buy as it has both an 835 and a headphone jack. I'm looking at you Samsung S8.

 

15 minutes ago, thebrownieguy said:

Tru. Always liked samsung but not being able to use headphones just sucks. Why follow apple?

 

Since when has anyone indicated the S8 won't have a 3.5mm headphone jack?

 

All renders/pics/videos I've seen that show the bottom indicate otherwise. 

[TidaLWaveZ]

[VerticalDiscussions]

4 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

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Screw that abomination of a phone!

 

Sony just showed the most godlike phone ever built! 4K HDR on yer phone bro, holy shizzles!

[TidaLWaveZ]

Just now, VerticalDiscussions said:

Screw that abomination of a phone!

 

Sony just showed the most godlike phone ever built! 4K HDR on yer phone bro, holy shizzles!

It's cool that they made it, but 4k is a little overkill for a 5.5 inch screen- at least to me.

 

I remember wanting that original 4k Sony phone, but the big US service providers never seem to offer Sony devices anyway so I couldn't get one if I wanted to. 

[Bouzoo]

1 minute ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

It's cool that they made it, but 4k is a little overkill for a 5.5 inch screen- at least to me.

It's not really a 4K, I'll bet it'll have adaptive res just like their first phone had. 

[Natsoup]

Specs might be great, but no headphone jack and it looks ugly and bulky.

[Rupe]

13 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Apologies you might be right. I heard that somewhere buts its defiantly possible i'm wrong.

[VerticalDiscussions]

2 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

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It is with pictures and video on the native apps :l. Maybe they have added further support for Youtube aswell?

[TidaLWaveZ]

1 minute ago, Rupe said:

Apologies you might be right. I heard that somewhere buts its defiantly possible i'm wrong.

I was actually getting worried that I had missed something. I plan on getting the S8, but would just get the G6 if samsung decided to drop the headphone jack.

[VerticalDiscussions]

I wonder how much this phone would cost in Europe xD. About 900€?

[suicidalfranco]

1 hour ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

I wonder how much this phone would cost in Europe xD. About 900€?

it'll go like this:

x$ = x€ + VAT

cause less features != lower price 

[dizmo]

I'm not overly interested in Sony's phones. They're boring and the same thing every year. The bezels should definitely be smaller, as should the chin and forehead. I have a buddy who loves them though and he'll definitely be buying this on release.

 

3 hours ago, Natsoup said:

Specs might be great, but no headphone jack and it looks ugly and bulky.

Erm....it has one?

[goodtofufriday]

4 hours ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

It's cool that they made it, but 4k is a little overkill for a 5.5 inch screen- at least to me.

 

I remember wanting that original 4k Sony phone, but the big US service providers never seem to offer Sony devices anyway so I couldn't get one if I wanted to. 

Buy one off contract? Im using an x compact on at&t. Amazon sells the international versions and sometimes on sale. 

[AnonymousGuy]

The Premium seems like a pretty good phone.  If the display scales back to 1080 though most of the time, that'd be disappointing.  

 

I'm on iOS now (7 Plus), but always eyeing switching back to Android if one of the OEM's puts out a compelling enough phone, primarily having to tick all the display, camera, and DAC boxes.

[TidaLWaveZ]

8 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Buy one off contract? Im using an x compact on at&t. Amazon sells the international versions and sometimes on sale. 

Well until recently I've had my upgrade pricing that was worth taking advantage of.

 

Now getting an unlocked version would be a viable option, but I'd still be hesitant to drop a hefty amount on a device I couldn't at least try in person first.

[goodtofufriday]

3 minutes ago, TidaLWaveZ said:

Well until recently I've had my upgrade pricing that was worth taking advantage of.

 

Now getting an unlocked version would be a viable option, but I'd still be hesitant to drop a hefty amount on a device I couldn't at least try in person first.

Thats fair. I'm pretty used to biting the bullet, I haven't purchased a phone on contract since the iphone 3gs. Last phone was the 2013 moto x which I wasn't so happy with, but was stuck with till I decided in november it get this sony.

[WMGroomAK]

They both look like nice devices.  It'll be interesting to see how they compare to each other with the difference in screens and processors.  I wouldn't mind going for the regular XZ if they perform the same due to the lower screen resolution.  Would love to have a good Sony camera sensor on my phone.

[TidaLWaveZ]

3 minutes ago, goodtofufriday said:

Thats fair. I'm pretty used to biting the bullet, I haven't purchased a phone on contract since the iphone 3gs. Last phone was the 2013 moto x which I wasn't so happy with, but was stuck with till I decided in november it get this sony.

Yeah, I still have the G3. I was going to buy a Note 7 but we see that turned out. I'm thinking S8 just because of the Snapdragon 835.  I feel like if I was to get the G6 I might as well just get one of the many Snapdragon 820 devices for significantly cheaper.

[Natsoup]

41 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'm not overly interested in Sony's phones. They're boring and the same thing every year. The bezels should definitely be smaller, as should the chin and forehead. I have a buddy who loves them though and he'll definitely be buying this on release.

 

Erm....it has one?

Saw a bunch of people saying it didnt up above... if it does, my mistake.

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, Natsoup said:

Saw a bunch of people saying it didnt up above... if it does, my mistake.

It says right in the spec sheet in the OP that it does

[Magnetorheological]

i'm pretty sure the S8 will be available for purchase before the XZ Premium though, since the XZP is slated for a "late spring" release. Depending on how much it will cost, I may consider replacing my Xperia Z5 Premium with this one, since they have finally gotten it right with this design imo (i.e. no plastic frame and plastic strip on the back a la XZ). The wrap-around glass is a very interesting design choice and the camera tech also seems very promising. 

[Doobeedoo]

That's a really great phone, I like it. Lovely display no doubt. Still overall it's great, new latest SoC and that 960fps recording.