Dell Inspiron , How good is the model 7559 ? (Spec Inside)

[keavlar]

5 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

It's also against ToS and the rules to tell someone to go google it. They come here for answers. If you don't know it, don't tell them off.

 

It's called the Inspiron 7567, sir. There, was that so hard? You could have googled it FOR him and told him that.

Thanks man.  You are my hero. 

 

Just don't start a fight . Unfortunately, there are few type of people in the world, and i got used to is, cause 90% of staff i work with are like that , but i also don't Judge him. 

 

But thank you a lot !

[keavlar]

12 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

It's also against ToS and the rules to tell someone to go google it. They come here for answers. If you don't know it, don't tell them off.

 

It's called the Inspiron 7567, sir. There, was that so hard? You could have googled it FOR him and told him that.

By the way, the name you gave me, it is not the one i found on internet , so :" Thank you a lot " !  

[Imglidinhere]

1 hour ago, keavlar said:

By the way, the name you gave me, it is not the one i found on internet , so :" Thank you a lot " !  

It may not be released in certain countries. At least in the US here, it's labeled as the 7567.  http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-15-7567-laptop

[rafazafar]

3 hours ago, keavlar said:

 

Personally i would go for this:

http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.268..271..2185..853..442..347..1947..466.&list=1&sort=2&glist=0&uin=36970&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0&intersect=.25.&rintersect=&store_real=

 

Or for more SSD storage and lighter still :
http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=35519&select=.268..271..2185..853..347..432..466.
 

Edited January 31, 2017 by rafazafar
updated links

[keavlar]

4 hours ago, rafazafar said:

Personally i would go for this:

http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.268..271..2185..853..442..347..1947..466.&list=1&sort=2&glist=0&uin=36970&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0&intersect=.25.&rintersect=&store_real=

 

Or for more SSD storage and lighter still :
http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=35519&select=.268..271..2185..853..347..432..466.
 

Thx .. did you saw they with "U "processors ?

[rafazafar]

1 hour ago, keavlar said:

Thx .. did you saw they with "U "processors ?

yup. U processors for Notebooks and mobility. the HQ and HK CPU will drain your battery like mad and still no where near the performance of desktop CPUs.
If you are doing CPU compute work maybe a HQ CPU is worthwhile. for normal work high clocked U is enough.

[keavlar]

1 hour ago, rafazafar said:

yup. U processors for Notebooks and mobility. the HQ and HK CPU will drain your battery like mad and still no where near the performance of desktop CPUs.
If you are doing CPU compute work maybe a HQ CPU is worthwhile. for normal work high clocked U is enough.

Hmm.. Ok thx.  Though. what kinda Computer work you mean?

 

[keavlar]

1 hour ago, rafazafar said:

yup. U processors for Notebooks and mobility. the HQ and HK CPU will drain your battery like mad and still no where near the performance of desktop CPUs.
If you are doing CPU compute work maybe a HQ CPU is worthwhile. for normal work high clocked U is enough.

Also, on this website, you can see some stats, so , you still suggest me to take The U CPU ?  http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?make=Intel&model=Core i7 6th Gen Mobile&type=Laptop Processor 

[rafazafar]

1 hour ago, keavlar said:

Also, on this website, you can see some stats, so , you still suggest me to take The U CPU ?  http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/index.php?make=Intel&model=Core i7 6th Gen Mobile&type=Laptop Processor 

Are you doing any software compiling or anything that requires alot of CPU compute? or VM?
If its just daily work, HQ really is pointless  own multiple notebooks from core m3 all the way to 6700hq with a gtx 1070  and i can safely say for normal work and light gaming having that HQ CPU is just draining battery and giving off alot of heat.
Just to be safe, can you tell me exactly what you will be using it for?



you can use this website for comparison. its alot better:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7500U/m34954vsm171274

[keavlar]

8 hours ago, rafazafar said:

Are you doing any software compiling or anything that requires alot of CPU compute? or VM?
If its just daily work, HQ really is pointless  own multiple notebooks from core m3 all the way to 6700hq with a gtx 1070  and i can safely say for normal work and light gaming having that HQ CPU is just draining battery and giving off alot of heat.
Just to be safe, can you tell me exactly what you will be using it for?



you can use this website for comparison. its alot better:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7500U/m34954vsm171274

I am studying full stack developer course : which is include to work with visual studio, running servers, nodeJs, Mongo DB. Here you can find what it include : Full stack .

I might also use it for a little work in Photoshop, and maybe, maybe video Editing with Sony Vegas Pro 13.

And other basic functions, as Movies, Web, Mails, Word.

 

Basically , it also important for me how the laptop looks, i don't really like the grey ,metal color by the keyboard i mean.

 

Also , maybe i should just get Dell Laptop Link  .

I don't really need 4k monitor, FullHD is enough . 

I just said that touch display would be really nice feature on laptop . 

I don't mind to pay extra , if it worth it , as i wanna use the lap top for a while. 

Thou, who knows, maybe when change the job, i will be able to get something better , or maybe will get from job it self.

Any way , it will not go to waste . 

   

 

 

[keavlar]

9 hours ago, rafazafar said:

Are you doing any software compiling or anything that requires alot of CPU compute? or VM?
If its just daily work, HQ really is pointless  own multiple notebooks from core m3 all the way to 6700hq with a gtx 1070  and i can safely say for normal work and light gaming having that HQ CPU is just draining battery and giving off alot of heat.
Just to be safe, can you tell me exactly what you will be using it for?



you can use this website for comparison. its alot better:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7500U/m34954vsm171274

Also, i saw that no one mentioned, other brands, except the Asus and Dell, is it cause of me? Or the other brand are not worth it?  Like Hp Omen . http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=37625&store=shipment 

 

[keavlar]

There is also , other thing that i am afraid of, which is , that when i buy the laptop , few weeks latter, new models will arrive to Israel, the prices will drop  and so.. 

[Imglidinhere]

14 hours ago, rafazafar said:

yup. U processors for Notebooks and mobility. the HQ and HK CPU will drain your battery like mad and still no where near the performance of desktop CPUs.
If you are doing CPU compute work maybe a HQ CPU is worthwhile. for normal work high clocked U is enough.

Except you're exceedingly wrong. The difference between the 6700HQ and the 6700K are a mere 30% difference under full load. That's extremely little considering that one chip is literally half the TDP of the other.

 

@Dackzy @Pendragon I CALL UPON THEE AGAIN!  HALP PL0X!

[Pendragon]

3 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

@Dackzy @Pendragon I CALL UPON THEE AGAIN!  HALP PL0X!

Um 6700HQ can be undervolted to a level that's appropriate to it's clockspeed. But, I believe you went the 6820HK cause wtf why are you comparing the 6700HQ vs the 6700k. The difference in performance is huge. If you OC a 6820HK to the MAX, it'll approach stock levels of the 6700k while drawing far more power. 

 

Also @rafazafar "wat is normal work???" Plenty of HQ laptops can get hella battery life. It's not as if power draw at idle is VASTLY different. It is different as the U series is optimized for power savings, but you can easily get 6-8 hours on quad core laptops with a large battery and optimus. eg. xps15. 

[rafazafar]

Just now, Imglidinhere said:

Except you're exceedingly wrong. The difference between the 6700HQ and the 6700K are a mere 30% difference under full load. That's extremely little considering that one chip is literally half the TDP of the other.

 

@Dackzy @Pendragon I CALL UPON THEE AGAIN!  HALP PL0X!

And how long under full load can that 6700HQ sustain. its also down to the TDP design of the laptop/system. In real life its more like an i5 6500. 

 

 

1 hour ago, keavlar said:

Also, i saw that no one mentioned, other brands, except the Asus and Dell, is it cause of me? Or the other brand are not worth it?  Like Hp Omen . http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=37625&store=shipment 

 

Anyhow, its really depends on you, i have a full stack dev as a close friend and aside from compiling time there isnt much need unless you want to run multiple heavy VMs by which you will want a quadcore with HT or more, but it all depends on how many VMs you want to run at the same time and such.

If you want all the features crammed into a laptop, you have to be ready to pay around 2000usd for something like the XPS15. 4K might is not so useful unless your eyes are good(test are small, windows scaling 100%) and love multitasking, which i did enjoy on the older xps15.

 

The omen is alright but i cant vouch for HP quality, it should be fine with thier premium lineup


 

[keavlar]

3 minutes ago, rafazafar said:

And how long under full load can that 6700HQ sustain. its also down to the TDP design of the laptop/system. In real life its more like an i5 6500. 

 

 

Anyhow, its really depends on you, i have a full stack dev as a close friend and aside from compiling time there isnt much need unless you want to run multiple heavy VMs by which you will want a quadcore with HT or more, but it all depends on how many VMs you want to run at the same time and such.

If you want all the features crammed into a laptop, you have to be ready to pay around 2000usd for something like the XPS15. 4K might is not so useful unless your eyes are good(test are small, windows scaling 100%) and love multitasking, which i did enjoy on the older xps15.

 

The omen is alright but i cant vouch for HP quality, it should be fine with thier premium lineup


 

What you think about what i said before, should i wait for new models? Or should i get what you suggested before ? 

It is so hard to decide , damn... From one side, i don't wanna pay much , and on the other hand , i want to have a powerful laptop . 

[rafazafar]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Um 6700HQ can be undervolted to a level that's appropriate to it's clockspeed. But, I believe you went the 6820HK cause wtf why are you comparing the 6700HQ vs the 6700k. The difference in performance is huge. If you OC a 6820HK to the MAX, it'll approach stock levels of the 6700k while drawing far more power. 

 

Also @rafazafar "wat is normal work???" Plenty of HQ laptops can get hella battery life. It's not as if power draw at idle is VASTLY different. It is different as the U series is optimized for power savings, but you can easily get 6-8 hours on quad core laptops with a large battery and optimus. eg. xps15. 

normal work in his case will be chrome, bunch of IDEs and SSH probably on all the time. Macs do better power management with networking being consistenntly but i cant recommend the latest macpro. but it will suit him.

This guy wants looks too, so no bulky 6820HK will suit him. Atleast not in Israel. So Aorus and Schenkers are out.
As it stands the Omen 15 or 17 with its 7700HQ is his best bet, atleast it seems so.
 

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, rafazafar said:

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isn't he asking whether the 7559 is good. That thing is pretty bulk. And is quad core + ht and good battery life. I dont get what's happening here. 

[rafazafar]

1 minute ago, keavlar said:

What you think about what i said before, should i wait for new models? Or should i get what you suggested before ? 

It is so hard to decide , damn... From one side, i don't wanna pay much , and on the other hand , i want to have a powerful laptop . 

This is why i dont want you to buy more than you actually need. Since you can easy setup a an affordable desktop solution for VMs and the heavy stuff.
But if you really need the mobility, i think the omen 15 with 1050/1050 TI is of decent price there.
Weight is ok, specs are ok. probably add another 8gb of ram, you will need it. It should suffice for learning and experimenting. But for real full stack work, its passable.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, rafazafar said:

i think the omen 15 with 1050/1050 TI is of decent price there.
Weight is ok, specs are ok. probably add another 8gb of ram, you will need it. It should suffice for learning and experimenting. But for real full stack work, its passable.

 

omen build quality has issues. like srs fucking issues. like can't keep the system properly cool. and it's HP. Nothing on their consumer line is good. Their business line is still good. 

 

The new dell's have a shit tn screen. waiting for y520 results.

[rafazafar]

1 minute ago, Pendragon said:

omen build quality has issues. like srs fucking issues. like can't keep the system properly cool. and it's HP. Nothing on their consumer line is good. Their business line is still good. 

 

The new dell's have a shit tn screen. waiting for y520 results.

Yeah.. HP.. shit consumer series since ever, but its not as bad as before, but they bogged down thier TB3 ports. seesh. Need to be gentle with it.
But for OP who wants light gaming, looks, portability and power it its bit unfair to pay as much for the older 7559.i
Hes still learning, this isnt for work as well so cant be too expensive. if the 7559 was 30% cheaper perfect. but its very pricey still over there.

 

@keavla Ill have to take a look again at what available in your market. will take a while.

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, rafazafar said:

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I have 0 idea on israel markets LOL. 

[keavlar]

2 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

isn't he asking whether the 7559 is good. That thing is pretty bulk. And is quad core + ht and good battery life. I dont get what's happening here. 

 

Yeah , that was the main question , but as few answers latter i understood, it is not that a good options, also saw on internet, a lot of issues there too. 

 

So we went to look other options ,if we already here,  you welcome to join. 

 

 

1 minute ago, rafazafar said:

This is why i dont want you to buy more than you actually need. Since you can easy setup a an affordable desktop solution for VMs and the heavy stuff.
But if you really need the mobility, i think the omen 15 with 1050/1050 TI is of decent price there.
Weight is ok, specs are ok. probably add another 8gb of ram, you will need it. It should suffice for learning and experimenting. But for real full stack work, its passable.

 

So you still stick to the ASUS you suggested before right?! 

Also, if to advise, what spec should i look for? The CPU , ram? Knowing , that in some cases, i can upgraded it. 

 

In ASUS the only thing i did not liked is the appearance , its like looking out for a sexy woman, if you know what i mean. 

 

 

 

Just now, Pendragon said:

omen build quality has issues. like srs fucking issues. like can't keep the system properly cool. and it's HP. Nothing on their consumer line is good. Their business line is still good. 

 

The new dell's have a shit tn screen. waiting for y520 results.

Yeah, tell the truth ,i don't like any other brands, except the ASUS and the  Dell, Vaio is rare 2, Mac, i love the way the look, and the screen, but more then that , NUHHH..

 

Acer cool too, but here not many options, and a bad support in Israel. 

MSI , its a gaming a laptop , so out of way. 

 

[Pendragon]

1 minute ago, keavlar said:

Acer cool too, but here not many options, and a bad support in Israel. 

 

 

Link some israel online laptop sites you can purchase at. We can take a look there. 

[keavlar]

6 minutes ago, Pendragon said:

Link some israel online laptop sites you can purchase at. We can take a look there. 

I will warn you : Most of the on Hebrew , and the only way to translate , is google translate : 

http://en.ksp.co.il/

https://www.ivory.co.il/מחשבים_ניידים.html

http://www.tms.co.il/

http://www.zap.co.il/models.aspx?sog=c-pclaptop   ( on this one , are located all laptop in Israel , and the range of prices)