7700k disappointment?

[Xreldo]

Looking at the the chip and the benchmarks the intel core i7 7700k is very disappointing considering it is only a minor upgrade to the i7 6700k with maximum fps difference being 3 fps. The Pros : Has higher clock speed compatibility so maybe a decent chunk of fps if you have water cooler or AIO still not worth the extra $100 and a new motherboard. Another good pro would be that 6700k is gonna get cheaper so high tier conponents are alvailible for a decent price for the cheap gaming builds. What are you opinions about this? Myself waiting for 1080 ti and Ryzen(which is very promising considering I dislike AMD)

[minibois]

It's like Broadwell all over, except this time there is no gimmicks.

[EPPHO]

5 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Looking at the the chip and the benchmarks the intel core i7 7700k is very disappointing considering it is only a minor upgrade to the i7 6700k with maximum fps difference being 3 fps. The Pros : Has higher clock speed compatibility so maybe a decent chunk of fps if you have water cooler or AIO still not worth the extra $100 and a new motherboard. Another good pro would be that 6700k is gonna get cheaper so high tier conponents are alvailible for a decent price for the cheap gaming builds. What are you opinions about this? Myself waiting for 1080 ti and Ryzen(which is very promising considering I dislike AMD)

Gaming wise it was known it won't be any upgrade from 6700k. Waiting for render benchmarks...

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Looking at the the chip and the benchmarks the intel core i7 7700k is very disappointing considering it is only a minor upgrade to the i7 6700k with maximum fps difference being 3 fps. The Pros : Has higher clock speed compatibility so maybe a decent chunk of fps if you have water cooler or AIO still not worth the extra $100 and a new motherboard. Another good pro would be that 6700k is gonna get cheaper so high tier conponents are alvailible for a decent price for the cheap gaming builds. What are you opinions about this? Myself waiting for 1080 ti and Ryzen(which is very promising considering I dislike AMD)

You can use the old skylake motherboards all you need to do is update the bios.

What might be disappointing to some is a relief to others who bought skylake and aren't ready to pay the price of a new CPU

[Xreldo]

1 minute ago, Minibois said:

It's like Broadwell all over, except this time there is no gimmicks.

Well at least people will be able to get 6700k over i5 6600k. What were they thinking when they made i5 7600k surely the people just go for i7 6700k because there is a price difference between new i5 and 6600k and no performance gains so people would just got for i7 6700k for that $50-100 extra.

[TheKDub]

7 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

Looking at the the chip and the benchmarks the intel core i7 7700k is very disappointing considering it is only a minor upgrade to the i7 6700k with maximum fps difference being 3 fps. The Pros : Has higher clock speed compatibility so maybe a decent chunk of fps if you have water cooler or AIO still not worth the extra $100 and a new motherboard. Another good pro would be that 6700k is gonna get cheaper so high tier conponents are alvailible for a decent price for the cheap gaming builds. What are you opinions about this? Myself waiting for 1080 ti and Ryzen(which is very promising considering I dislike AMD)

 

Unless it's the CPU holding the game back, you're not going to see much improvement from a CPU upgrade.

However for things that depend heavily on the CPU such as rending a video, there could be some decent improvements  there.

[Xreldo]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

You can use the old skylake motherboards all you need to do is update the bios.

What might be disappointing to some is a relief to others who bought skylake and aren't ready to pay the price of a new CPU

But new builders want the shiny z270 motherboard srlly the msi gaming z270 looks like a beast. It would be smart to buy an old z170 for less because z270 is out and put i7 7700k. However will it run the same? Would there be any overclocking issues if you used z170 instead z270?

[The Sloth]

nope that's what i expected the tick-tock cycle 

[-rascal-]

What did you expect a 50%+ improvement?

 

Just like... Haswell >> Devil's Canyon >> Skylake.

Gaming wise, 10% improvement roughly?

IMO, the last significant jump was either from 1st-generation Core i series to 2nd-generation, or from 2nd-generation to 3rd-generation.

 

One thing is for certain, Kaby Lake is more powerful at rendering workloads, etc.

Of course, power efficiency improvements.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kaby-lake-core-i7-7500u-versus-skylake-core-i7-6500u-on-dell-xps-13_189239

[Xreldo]

4 minutes ago, frozeNNN said:

Gaming wise it was known it won't be any upgrade from 6700k. Waiting for render benchmarks...

But people buy i7 6700ks and 7700ks for gaming not rendering..

[smokefest]

7700k is still 5% better single core performance than 6700k

So theres improvement... 

[EPPHO]

Just now, Xreldo said:

But people buy i7 6700ks and 7700ks for gaming not rendering..

I wouldn't say so

[Xreldo]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

What did you expect a 50%+ improvement?

 

Just like... Haswell >> Devil's Canyon >> Skylake.

Gaming wise, 10% improvement roughly?

 

One thing is for certain, Kaby Lake is more powerful at rendering workloads, etc.

Of course, power efficiency improvements.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kaby-lake-core-i7-7500u-versus-skylake-core-i7-6500u-on-dell-xps-13_189239

Its not even 10% gaming wise improved. Arma still runs at same fps.

[RyanMacRocks]

Just go with whatever CPU is the most readily available and cheapest. If you can find a 7700K for only $20 more than the 6700K, I'd say go for it, if not definitely go with the 6700K. It should be interesting to see how Zen performs as well. Pretty hyped about the Vega and 1080 Ti launch, we already know the ballpark of performance that the 1080 Ti will be in so at this point its just waiting to see exactly how competitive AMD will be. Hopefully very competitive so we see some major price drops.

[Xreldo]

Just now, frozeNNN said:

I wouldn't say so

You cant stream dota properly on 6700k

[Xreldo]

Wait4Zen

[TheRandomness]

11 minutes ago, Minibois said:

It's like Broadwell all over, except this time there is no gimmicks.

Except Breadwell (I know) has the most powerful iGPU intel has developed as well as L4 cache when not using that iGPU (for the desktop processors, anyway).

[Jumper118]

wow. this is obvious. the 3770k wasnt much an improvement over the 2600k and the 4770K wasnt much improvement on a 3770k,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, what did you expect?    

[minibois]

6 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Except Breadwell (I know) has the most powerful iGPU intel has developed as well as L4 cache when not using that iGPU (for the desktop processors, anyway).

As I said, without gimmicks.

(it's not that it's not cool that Broadwell had that going for it, it's just not that useful for the mainstream market. It's like Intel saying "I know we got a grip on the market, so we're gonna take advantage of it)

[jj9987]

It was just optimization step release, so there were no major improvements expected.

[Princess Luna]

26 minutes ago, Xreldo said:

But new builders want the shiny z270 motherboard srlly the msi gaming z270 looks like a beast. It would be smart to buy an old z170 for less because z270 is out and put i7 7700k. However will it run the same? Would there be any overclocking issues if you used z170 instead z270?

It should perform the same  the differences are more in a few connectors and inputs other than the looks obviously I didn't really went through much the new mobos exactly because all I cared was learning the bios update is all you need to run Kaby Lake on these older motherboards

[MrAlbertrocks]

I'm set with my 1080, now i just have to wait for Ryzen and see the benchmarks between Zen and Kaby. It's a good time to be in the lookout for a new CPU.

[WereCat]

Wake me up when my 4770k will become "obsolete" in next 2-4 years.

[Coaxialgamer]

1 hour ago, -rascal- said:

What did you expect a 50%+ improvement?

 

Just like... Haswell >> Devil's Canyon >> Skylake.

Gaming wise, 10% improvement roughly?

IMO, the last significant jump was either from 1st-generation Core i series to 2nd-generation, or from 2nd-generation to 3rd-generation.

 

One thing is for certain, Kaby Lake is more powerful at rendering workloads, etc.

Of course, power efficiency improvements.

http://www.legitreviews.com/kaby-lake-core-i7-7500u-versus-skylake-core-i7-6500u-on-dell-xps-13_189239

The only reason for the better performance on kabylake is due to the higher clocks.  There are 0% IPC differences 

[NicklasAPJ]

On 3/1/2017 at 8:48 PM, Minibois said:

It's like Broadwell all over, except this time there is no gimmicks.

 

Did you see Boardwell :P? it own KAby Lake at the same speeds.

 

Look CPU score, for both CPUS, at 5Ghz.