The NDA is up and the reviews are in! The Intel i7 7700k and i5 7600k are officially here!- Reviewer Roundup

[FourCorners]

After all the rumors and leaked benchmarks, here is an roundup of reviews from some of the most populat techtubers and articles of Intel's new 7th gen Kaby Lake i7 7700k and i5 7600k

 

*As of creating this thread, LTT has yet to post their video right at the 12pm EST NDA lift

 

PCper:

 

Gamer's Nexus:

 

Harware Canucks:

 

Jayztwocents:

 

BitWit (Awesomesauce Network)

 

 

Paul's Hardware

OC3D:

 

Level1Techs

 

 

CritTV

 

Written Articles:

 

PCper

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-Review-Kaby-Lake-and-14nm

 

Hardware Canucks:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/74160-intel-kaby-lake-i7-7700k-i5-7600k-review.html

 

Gamer's Nexus:

http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2744-intel-i7-7700k-review-and-benchmark

 

 

My opinions:

 

From what I've seen so far (only watched Jayztwocents and Bitwit as I'm making this thread), this Intel launch is pretty much as we expected and isn't really that exciting like the last few generations of Intel CPU launches.

We're basically get the "refining" stage of Intel's new 3 steps of " node shrink, new architecture, and refinment". As we expected, IPC gains are minimal and we get a few new features in the new chipset lineup like  more PCI-e lanes and Intel's Optane storage support. However, Kaby Lake looks like it will get most of it's performance boost in higher clock speeds and overclocking as most people like Jay and Kyle are able to OC to 5 Ghz with ease.

 

*Also worth noting that there are z270 motherboard reviews also up

 

[Okjoek]

I've watched BitWit's first and before moving on I'm already disappointed by the benchmarks. One thing I haven't seen yet is what kind of iGPU improvements were made? Does anybody know?

[TheRandomness]

14 hours ago, Okjoek said:

I've watched BitWit's first and before moving on I'm already disappointed by the benchmarks. One thing I haven't seen yet is what kind of iGPU improvements were made? Does anybody know?

You shouldn't have been disappointed. Haswell vs. Skylake was like this, except with a larger gap between the two (and other things like power consumption and thermals and 22nm vs. 14nm)

[The Sloth]

 

1 minute ago, Okjoek said:

I've watched BitWit's first and before moving on I'm already disappointed by the benchmarks. One thing I haven't seen yet is what kind of iGPU improvements were made? Does anybody know?

 

BitWit's and paul hardware covered it vary intel is taking easy from the lack of competition it seems. 

[Okjoek]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

You shouldn't have been disappointed. Haswell vs. Skylake was like this, except with a larger gap between the two (and other things like power consumption and thermals and 28nm vs. 14nm)

Yeah you're right. Disappointed wasn't the right word as I've known it was going to be this way for some time coming.

[FourCorners]

1 minute ago, Okjoek said:

I've watched BitWit's first and before moving on I'm already disappointed by the benchmarks. One thing I haven't seen yet is what kind of iGPU improvements were made? Does anybody know?

I doubt there is much iGPU improvements. The iGPU still won't beat AMD's APUs and certainly won't replace a dedicated GPU any time soon

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

You shouldn't have been disappointed. Haswell vs. Skylake was like this, except with a larger gap between the two (and other things like power consumption and thermals and 28nm vs. 14nm)

So, barely anything like this? lol

 

 

[Guest]

Looks like some great OC's, but it looks like the heat is there to follow suit with the higher overclocks. 

 

Now, pricing? 

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, Alexokan said:

So, barely anything like this? lol

 

 

Kaby Lake also brings lower power consumption and improved thermals as well as a noticeably lacking IPC 'improvement'. It's actually very similar. iGPU preformance will be interesting though.

[Aytex]

2 minutes ago, Alexokan said:

Looks like some great OC's, but it looks like the heat is there to follow suit with the higher overclocks. 

 

Now, pricing? 

Did you not see the pricing graph in any of thoes videos?

[DocSwag]

Welp. Kaby Lake isn't that exciting. Let's get some Zen going!

[DarkBlade2117]

3 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Kaby Lake also brings lower power consumption and improved thermals as well as a noticeably lacking IPC 'improvement'. It's actually very similar. iGPU preformance will be interesting though.

Desktop power consumption is about the same. Maybe clock for clock it will be lower but at stock they are the same

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Aytex said:

Did you not see the pricing graph in any of thoes videos?

Nope. I'm at work. Only got to watch about 1.5 videos. Plus, MSRP isn't such a great indication on what pricing will do moving forward (and that is with consideration to skylake too - that I'm interested in). 

[Aytex]

1 minute ago, Alexokan said:

Nope. I'm at work. Only got to watch about 1.5 videos. Plus, MSRP isn't such a great indication on what pricing will do moving forward (and that is with consideration to skylake too - that I'm interested in). 

Well its affordable I can tell you that, and that new Overclockable i3 is pretty cheap. interested in that thing at the most.

[79wjd]

10 minutes ago, FourCorners said:

I doubt there is much iGPU improvements. The iGPU still won't beat AMD's APUs and certainly won't replace a dedicated GPU any time soon

There is the possibility that Intel's iGPU could beat AMD, it did with the 5775c (albeit it's not because the core is more powerful but the cache). Unfortunately, Intel didn't follow with that trend.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Welp. Kaby Lake isn't that exciting. Let's get some Zen going!

Ryzen? 

[FourCorners]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

There is the possibility that Intel's iGPU could beat AMD, it did with the 5775c (albeit it's not because the core is more powerful but the cache). Unfortunately, Intel didn't follow with that trend.

 

Didn't the Broadwell chips like the 5775c use Iris Pro graphics, the thing that Intel seems to have completely forgot about? 

[Princess Luna]

I am actually glad Skylake is surviving the 7th gen just fine, I don't have endless money for these  nearly yearly releases

By the way why hasn't LTT made a video about this yet? Intel didn't bother to send'em reference CPUs?

[MageTank]

@GoodBytes is it possible to get a threadmerge here? I like this guy's thread structure better than my own. Seems silly to have two posts about the same topic though.

 

 

[Simon771]

Was expecting Linus to upload video about i7 7700k till now ... maybe not today

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Sampsy said:

So in conclusion Kaby Lake is Intel selling selling us Skylake again, after which they will sell us Skylake again in the form of Skylake-X after which they will yet again sell us Skylake in the form of Kabylake-X. 

sort of. 

 

I think IPC is now limited by materials and manufacturing process. 

[79wjd]

34 minutes ago, FourCorners said:

 

Didn't the Broadwell chips like the 5775c use Iris Pro graphics, the thing that Intel seems to have completely forgot about? 

Iris graphics has existed on mobile SKUs since haswell. Broadwell was the only desktop SKU with it (but they also had less L3 cache than the 4690k/4790k/6600k/6700k that they succeeded/preceded). So it's seems that Intel was playing around with bringing iris to the desktop but changed their mind.

[malon]

Not a lot of improvement once again and not realy worthy of an upgrade purely on the performance side, even compared to 4th gen i7s, then again if you want 4k netflix it is a must

[DocSwag]

1 hour ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Ryzen? 

I think Zen is still the name of the architecture. Ryzen is the name of the CPUs themselves.

[Magnetorheological]

My 4790K is still fast as hell and doesn't skip a beat. Guess there's no reason for me to upgrade for at least another 5 years or so, especially since these improvements between gens are so negligible. It's good for overclockers, but then again, so is my 4790K. Let's hope AMD can get it together and push Intel to do more in the near future (or even surpass Intel, though I really don't see that happening, to be honest).