NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti has 2880 CUDA cores

[mr moose]

So what you're saying is.....don't buy a 780ti? the "bleeding edge".

because nvidia will make something better soon to beat it and the people that buy the 780ti will be kicking themselfs just like the 780 users kicked themselfs just like those who bought titan did?

no sane person who bought a 780 is going to care about the 780ti, thats like saying "omg I shouldn't of bought my ferrari 458 for £170,000 because now theres a stratadale version for £200,000 that has another 20 horsepower...I'm going to have to upgrade now"

Really? :huh:

 

I think you are reading into it too deep, the saying "if you buy bleeding edge tech you're bound to get cut." applies to the 780 just like it applies to the 780ti and the r9 290x and all other new release technology.  It is an appraisal of how early adopters becoming the guinea pigs that suffer through the teething issues.  I was not recommending anyone hold off or that anyone is kicking themselves. :rolleyes:

[digitalnav]

Really? :huh:

 

I think you are reading into it too deep, the saying "if you buy bleeding edge tech you're bound to get cut." applies to the 780 just like it applies to the 780ti and the r9 290x and all other new release technology.  It is an appraisal of how early adopters becoming the guinea pigs that suffer through the teething issues.  I was not recommending anyone hold off or that anyone is kicking themselves. :rolleyes:

Exactly. Like the other person said. You can't be upset after buying a $150,000 car when an updated version comes out in a year or two.

[That Norwegian Guy]

does noone realize how dumb this is? the 780ti is between the 780 and the titan and will be 6% faster and cost 6% more than the 780...

 

Nope, the Titan retains it's status as a workstation capable gaming card, but the 780Ti will be quite a bit better for gaming than the Titan and as such will be the gaming flagship.

[digitalnav]

Nope, the Titan retains it's status as a workstation capable gaming card, but the 780Ti will be quite a bit better for gaming than the Titan and as such will be the gaming flagship.

:rolleyes:

[ACatWithThumbs]

This thread is still going?

does noone realize how dumb this is? the 780ti is between the 780 and the titan and will be 6% faster and cost 6% more than the 780...

otherwise it would be called the titan ti wouldn't it... i know thats really hard to work out right?

No it's not the specs say that it's faster then a TITAN´and thats also the only thing that makes sense.

There is no point in releasing a Card between the TITAN and the 780, because there way to close together.

 

 

Also having a 3gb frame buffer for 1080p is insane and 12gb is simply stupid

most 1080p games only use 1gb of vram SOME games with mods and texture packs can use over a gb like 1.5gb, at 2560*1600 with everything maxed out and 8x msAA youll eventually use 2.8gb....and get 15 frames/sec.

means for 4k you will likely only need a 6gb of overall frame buffer, by the time you need more than that the cards WILL NOT have enough texel rate performance to get decent frame rates anyway.

TTL in his titan vs 780 review at 2560x1440 (2.5k) is getting 50ish fps in games like crysis 3/far cry 3 at 2.5k and people are talking 4k?

what are we going to do game at 30fps on our 24inch microscopic pixel'd 4k monitor? run 4 way sli?

gpu's will be a bottlneck at high resolutions way before vram is.

 

Bf3 uses 1,7Gb of Vram Bf4 uses 2GB vram and that in 1080p.

And now with next gen consoles the vram usage will be insanely high, because they can use up to 6Gb only for the GPU.

And games like Mirror's edge 2 will have easy 3GB vram usage when not even 4GB.

The landscape will change pretty drastic soon.

32bit will die aswell as DX9 and DX10.

 

[afa7336]

No it's not the specs say that it's faster then a TITAN´and thats also the only thing that makes sense.

There is no point in releasing a Card between the TITAN and the 780, because there way to close together.

 

 

Bf3 uses 1,7Gb of Vram Bf4 uses 2GB vram and that in 1080p.

And now with next gen consoles the vram usage will be insanely high, because they can use up to 6Gb only for the GPU.

And games like Mirror's edge 2 will have easy 3GB vram usage when not even 4GB.

The landscape will change pretty drastic soon.

32bit will die aswell as DX9 and DX10.

 

 

Honestly I think people are confusing what is available on consoles as far as vRAM goes. Its a unified RAM meaning it shares the RAM along with the system. Just because your laptop has 8GB of RAM doesn't mean the iGPU can use 6GB and the system only uses 2GBs. Remember, you've got to run the OS and the game, and all the other processes along with it. My guess we're looking at 3GB vRAM, maybe 4GB vRAM. I don't see it ever going higher then that. I mean we aren't exactly talking a Titan GPU here, its not even close to that.

[D3MON]

No it's not the specs say that it's faster then a TITAN´and thats also the only thing that makes sense.

There is no point in releasing a Card between the TITAN and the 780, because there way to close together.

 

 

Bf3 uses 1,7Gb of Vram Bf4 uses 2GB vram and that in 1080p.

And now with next gen consoles the vram usage will be insanely high, because they can use up to 6Gb only for the GPU.

And games like Mirror's edge 2 will have easy 3GB vram usage when not even 4GB.

The landscape will change pretty drastic soon.

32bit will die aswell as DX9 and DX10.

 

games arnt going to change in regard to vram that much "because of consoles", the 7790 style gpus that the new console have wont be able to use more than 2gb of vram effectively, thats like having a 100L fuel tank and saying your vauxhall corsa was therefor designed for Le Mans...

 

 

Nope, the Titan retains it's status as a workstation capable gaming card, but the 780Ti will be quite a bit better for gaming than the Titan and as such will be the gaming flagship.

Really? you can game on any work station card, doesn't make a k6000 a gaming card, and just because the titan is based on tesla doesnt make it a workstation card, it doesnt support double floating point precision or ecc vram.

the reason people are screaming "2880 cuda cores" is because other people are screaming "it will outperform the titan!" and the assume the 2 are linked...

...people dont realise its going to be bang in the middle between the 780 and titan (780>780ti>titan>tesla)

Nvidia does this all the time, they made the 690 using 2x680's then after a while they go crippled tesla cores 9which are effectivle 2x680 cores anyway) and locked them down, enough to not hamper sales of the 690 too much but enough to make it seem like a great investment (so its +75% of a 680).

its the porsche cayman of the nvidia linup, designed to fit right inbetween thier 911 and boxster and just ahppened to be priced just right, the 780 didnt get a price drop because of amd, they got a price drop to make space for the 780ti which now makes it seem like a great deal....even if it does screw over everyone that bought a 780...

back to "outperforming titan", it outperforms titan because although its 8% of a titan its base clock is 8% faster and its boost is 9% faster, bearing in mind these clocks are still in the 900mhz range, what idiot gets a titan but doesnt know how to overclock it to 1000mhz or more?

it doesnt matter how fast your 350 chevy runs itll never match an equally tuned 454.

theres no replacement for cores, TMU's and ROP's.

[virtualTune]

not sure if this was posted before so sorry if it was   http://uk.hardware.info/news/37647/rumour-photos-and-benchmarks-of-gtx-780-ti

 

Also, nVidia says themselves that the 780ti is their fastest GPU ever: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-nvidias-latest-extreme-performance-graphics-card

[mike88931]

D3MON, you really need to reevaluate a lot of what you are saying and take a look at the facts before falsely spouting "how stupid this is." Nvidia quoted it would be faster than the titan, that should have been self explanatory considering that the 780 was already so close, and Nvidia released an official statement with the specs of the 780 ti including the 2880 cores... Please think before spreading false information.

[Tall Gora]

games arnt going to change in regard to vram that much "because of consoles", the 7790 style gpus that the new console have wont be able to use more than 2gb of vram effectively, thats like having a 100L fuel tank and saying your vauxhall corsa was therefor designed for Le Mans...

 

 

Really? you can game on any work station card, doesn't make a k6000 a gaming card, and just because the titan is based on tesla doesnt make it a workstation card, it doesnt support double floating point precision or ecc vram.

the reason people are screaming "2880 cuda cores" is because other people are screaming "it will outperform the titan!" and the assume the 2 are linked...

...people dont realise its going to be bang in the middle between the 780 and titan (780>780ti>titan>tesla)

Nvidia does this all the time, they made the 690 using 2x680's then after a while they go crippled tesla cores 9which are effectivle 2x680 cores anyway) and locked them down, enough to not hamper sales of the 690 too much but enough to make it seem like a great investment (so its +75% of a 680).

its the porsche cayman of the nvidia linup, designed to fit right inbetween thier 911 and boxster and just ahppened to be priced just right, the 780 didnt get a price drop because of amd, they got a price drop to make space for the 780ti which now makes it seem like a great deal....even if it does screw over everyone that bought a 780...

back to "outperforming titan", it outperforms titan because although its 8% of a titan its base clock is 8% faster and its boost is 9% faster, bearing in mind these clocks are still in the 900mhz range, what idiot gets a titan but doesnt know how to overclock it to 1000mhz or more?

it doesnt matter how fast your 350 chevy runs itll never match an equally tuned 454.

theres no replacement for cores, TMU's and ROP's.

cant believe how ignorant you are, obv 780 Ti is dominating, look at early pre-release benchmarks, the early benchies for R9 290X were close, and clearly you can see 780 Ti beating titan. To try to place it inbetween 780 and titan means that it wouldnt even outperform the 290X, you really think Nvidia would make a GPU rebuttle with something that cant beat AMD's latest flagship?!?!

[D3MON]

cant believe how ignorant you are, obv 780 Ti is dominating, look at early pre-release benchmarks, the early benchies for R9 290X were close, and clearly you can see 780 Ti beating titan. To try to place it inbetween 780 and titan means that it wouldnt even outperform the 290X, you really think Nvidia would make a GPU rebuttle with something that cant beat AMD's latest flagship?!?!

Read my post next time. I said it would outperform titan...

and also nvidia hasnt made this whole new gpu in the time between the 290x launch and now...they have had this chip a long time, if it outperforms it it is priced higher, if it doesn't beat it they drop the price thats how this industry works.

If its 8% less powerful than a titan but is clocked 8% faster (which sint a stretch) it will perform the same, given it will probably come in clocked around 15% higher it will have a clear lead.

A 780ghz edition (1000 core, 1050 boost) would outperform a titan. (837 core, 876 boost)

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/graphics-cards/possible-specs-for-nivida-gtx-780-ti-reveal-card-that-just-outruns-titan-1192997

everyone will be overjoyed in how much better it is than the titan because its cheaper and faster, completely oblivious to the fact nvidia's pricing the titan so high just to make the 780+780ti seem like such a good deal and then they price drop making the 780 look great still, then they will come out with a black edition clocked at a huge 1000mhz!...which anyone and thier grandmother with a titan can reach.

[D3MON]

D3MON, you really need to reevaluate a lot of what you are saying and take a look at the facts before falsely spouting "how stupid this is." Nvidia quoted it would be faster than the titan, that should have been self explanatory considering that the 780 was already so close, and Nvidia released an official statement with the specs of the 780 ti including the 2880 cores... Please think before spreading false information.

need to look at the fact's?, okay SHOW ME, WHERE IS THE NVIDIA PAGE!

Until its released nobody can know anything, its all rhumor and who cares about rhumor, rhumor doesn't create fps, and when it is announced everyone remembers what was said that was right, nobody remembers what was said that was wrong, which is every other article on this forum (on leaked 780ti specs)

m-ursu linked another article on here https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/66788-new-nvidia-graphics-card-announced-gtx-780-ti/

Funny how it dissapears now, why spread rhumor stirring s*** up and then delete it? if your not sure, don't make a thread on it, wait for it to come out, wait for functional drivers, get some benchmarks on those drivers then (maybe a month or so after launch) you'll know how it performs accurately, can't wait for accurate performance numbers then feel free to gamble lots of money on such hardware not knowing how it actually performs or get out of the pc game because it happens with everything (except ram and hard drives and cases).

also don't tell me im wrong, im only one person, tell EVERY nvidia fan on this thread...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/68243-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-specifications-leaked/

[MdX MaxX]

need to look at the fact's?, okay SHOW ME, WHERE IS THE NVIDIA PAGE!

Until its released nobody can know anything, its all rhumor and who cares about rhumor, rhumor doesn't create fps, and when it is announced everyone remembers what was said that was right, nobody remembers what was said that was wrong, which is every other article on this forum (on leaked 780ti specs)

m-ursu linked another article on here https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/66788-new-nvidia-graphics-card-announced-gtx-780-ti/

Funny how it dissapears now, why spread rhumor stirring s*** up and then delete it? if your not sure, don't make a thread on it, wait for it to come out, wait for functional drivers, get some benchmarks on those drivers then (maybe a month or so after launch) you'll know how it performs accurately, can't wait for accurate performance numbers then feel free to gamble lots of money on such hardware not knowing how it actually performs or get out of the pc game because it happens with everything (except ram and hard drives and cases).

also don't tell me im wrong, im only one person, tell EVERY nvidia fan on this thread...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/68243-nvidia-gtx-780-ti-specifications-leaked/

You're insisting everything is rumor, yet in your previous posts you assert that you know exactly where this card is going to fit into the GeForce lineup, refuting anyone who thinks differently.

 

You have no more insight into the situation than anyone else does.  Please stop the misguided temper tantrum.  It's not helping anyone.

[D3MON]

You're insisting everything is rumor, yet in your previous posts you assert that you know exactly where this card is going to fit into the GeForce lineup, refuting anyone who thinks differently.

 

You have no more insight into the situation than anyone else does.  Please stop the misguided temper tantrum.  It's not helping anyone.

I would buy you a pint if I could!

 don't know any better than anyone, but everyone else seems to think they know the facts, I'm pointing out that anyone who says "780ti will have 2880 cuda cores" is doing nothing but spewing mere speculation which conflicts with nvidias own naming scheme.

It's just as easy for Nvidia to release a 780ti with a 2496:208:48 architecture, effectively titan with another 2 units disabled

they drop the price of the 780 to create a price gap for the 780ti to fill in and therefore make the new card look like "the one to buy",. whats more with a mere overclock (900 base 950 boost) the card should decimate titan, making it look better still!

I don't have a horse in this race I cant afford on, but id atleast like those who can to be aware of whats going on and not blindly follow like a flock of sheep.

If I am wrong that's fine too, it doesnt make much sense and nvidia are shooting themself in the foot missing a titan-ti oppertunity but whatever makes them happy.

edit: fwiw heres another "misguided" article

http://www.legitreviews.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-specs-leaked-already_126895

if anyone wants to go round telling these sites that they're wrong because everyone one here seems to know something these sites don't, feel free, I dislike rhumor too.

[MdX MaxX]

I would buy you a pint if I could!

 don't know any better than anyone, but everyone else seems to think they know the facts, I'm pointing out that anyone who says "780ti will have 2880 cuda cores" is doing nothing but spewing mere speculation which conflicts with nvidias own naming scheme.

It's just as easy for Nvidia to release a 780ti with a 2496:208:48 architecture, effectively titan with another 2 units disabled

they drop the price of the 780 to create a price gap for the 780ti to fill in and therefore make the new card look like "the one to buy",. whats more with a mere overclock (900 base 950 boost) the card should decimate titan, making it look better still!

I don't have a horse in this race I cant afford on, but id atleast like those who can to be aware of whats going on and not blindly follow like a flock of sheep.

If I am wrong that's fine too, it doesnt make much sense and nvidia are shooting themself in the foot missing a titan-ti oppertunity but whatever makes them happy.

Fair enough.

 

I'm inclined to believe that Nvidia is prepared to give Titan the boot.  It seems to me Titan was the card strictly for the early adopters; it's the oddball that doesn't fit in the lineup, and it seems 780-Ti is the perfect opportunity for Nvidia to succeed Titan and let full-fledged GK110 finally strut its stuff for a while before Maxwell arrives next year.  A card to slot in between 780 and Titan would mean a fully-unlocked GK110 would never be realized (AFAIK the highest end Tesla-K20X doesn't even have all the GPU's cores enabled) and would hardly justify the $200 price premium over 780.

 

But we still don't know.  You may be right, I may be right, who knows.  I'm just gonna wait out the three days until release and not get myself flustered over speculation.

[Tall Gora]

Read my post next time. I said it would outperform titan...

and also nvidia hasnt made this whole new gpu in the time between the 290x launch and now...they have had this chip a long time, if it outperforms it it is priced higher, if it doesn't beat it they drop the price thats how this industry works.

If its 8% less powerful than a titan but is clocked 8% faster (which sint a stretch) it will perform the same, given it will probably come in clocked around 15% higher it will have a clear lead.

A 780ghz edition (1000 core, 1050 boost) would outperform a titan. (837 core, 876 boost)

http://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/graphics-cards/possible-specs-for-nivida-gtx-780-ti-reveal-card-that-just-outruns-titan-1192997

everyone will be overjoyed in how much better it is than the titan because its cheaper and faster, completely oblivious to the fact nvidia's pricing the titan so high just to make the 780+780ti seem like such a good deal and then they price drop making the 780 look great still, then they will come out with a black edition clocked at a huge 1000mhz!...which anyone and thier grandmother with a titan can reach.

well you have to remember that by now they have probably made back alot of the R&D that went into GK110, but who really knows? now they probably dont mind putting gtx 780 at 499 MSRP and keeping the best silicon for 780 Ti to charge the premium for. Yes Nvidia prices those cards at a higher price than usual lately, but do you not understand inflation? What if the cost of materials has increased since the gtx 480? Nvidia does not just price to gouge, they have costs, and they are a corporation who needs to make profit and faces pressure to increase that profit every quarter,  the titan priced at 1000 was a mystery, it was just a high introductory price for GK110, but now that time has passed they can reduce the prices without feeling it in their margins. I always read how GK110 didnt have good yields at the start and was an expensive chip to make, unfortunately consumers have beared some of that cost up until now that the process/design has matured. Dont be so negative and understand how "this industry works" and its not just this industry but all public companies. We dont have access to Nvidia financials unfortunately but i really dont think they are a greedy company with the titan/700 series pricing, some internal controller has done the analysis and the pricing is for a reason. 

 

My opinion on AMD is that they released 290X at the price they did to attract business, but are most likely taking a loss on it, but they may not care as the console deals for PS4 and XBOX1 may make up for it in profit they figure.

[D3MON]

Fair enough.

 

I'm inclined to believe that Nvidia is prepared to give Titan the boot.  It seems to me Titan was the card strictly for the early adopters; it's the oddball that doesn't fit in the lineup, and it seems 780-Ti is the perfect opportunity for Nvidia to succeed Titan and let full-fledged GK110 finally strut its stuff for a while before Maxwell arrives next year.  A card to slot in between 780 and Titan would mean a fully-unlocked GK110 would never be realized (AFAIK the highest end Tesla-K20X doesn't even have all the GPU's cores enabled) and would hardly justify the $200 price premium over 780.

 

But we still don't know.  You may be right, I may be right, who knows.  I'm just gonna wait out the three days until release and not get myself flustered over speculation.

It would be awesome if we found out you could unlock the units on a 780ti.....how tempting would it be to just put "tan" on the end with permanent marker, or get it laser cut out, maybe stick some green LED's in there...