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Disappointing performance RX480

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Recently I bought a (brand new) MSI RX480 Gaming X 8GB. I swiftly unplugged my HD7950 and put my RX480 in and wanted to play some games.

On YouTube and other websites I saw performances of the RX480 (playing BF1 on high or ultra (1080p) and still getting a good 80-90 FPS. So, that's what i hoped for when i got my RX480.
Sadly, the opposite is the reality... I get around the same FPS as my 'old' HD7950 on medium settings (1080p, dx11 and 12) and the game does absolutely not run smooth on high/ultra settings (both on dx11 and 12).
Also, in some games (ETS2 for instance) I get even lower FPS than my HD7950 :(

I have no clue what is the issue here and why it doesn't gives the same performance as my older graphics card.

 

Do any of you have the same problem with the RX480 or know what is going on? 

 

Driver used: 16.12.1
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Did you wipe the drivers 1st?

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Looks like you need a better CPU?

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Also BF1 it really demanding. Run it on high, not ultra

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What is your RAM usage? 8GB is not really optimal for newest AAA titles.

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4 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

What is your RAM usage? 8GB is not really optimal for newest AAA titles.

Does bf1 eat up that much?

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Why do some people say its cpu bottleneck on i5 3450 

And when i ask if my i5 3570K would bottleneck rx 480 everyone says it wont

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Just now, ivan134 said:

Does bf1 eat up that much?

Yeah, with some (not particularly intensive) stuff running in the background I easily get past 8GB... Though with a web-browser open (Firefox) there are many games that surpass 8GB, had it in The Witcher 3, CoD Black Ops 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider etc... And nearly every AAA title that released recently has 16GB as recommended and 8GB as MINIMUM...

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12 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Did you wipe the drivers 1st?

Yes I wiped my drivers and installed it all again, justo be sure it was properly installed.

11 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

Also BF1 it really demanding. Run it on high, not ultra

I did, but that still not gives me nearly the same amount or the FPS number I had at least in mind.

9 minutes ago, Morgan MLGman said:

What is your RAM usage? 8GB is not really optimal for newest AAA titles.

I don't know my RAM usage, thought that the 8GB would be fine. I will try to see what my RAM usage is in game in a couple of minutes.

2 minutes ago, MograineLefay said:

OP, these people doing benchmarks tend to have cpu's like the i7 6700k, or the more expensive 6/8core variants.

Yea I know, that's why I googled if my i5 3450 would bottleneck and found many people saying "no it won't". I even asked here (Will this upgrade bottleneck?) on the forum. I understand my FPS can drop by like 2 or 3 because of my CPU being a bit older, but i think this is a significant drop in performance. 

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4 minutes ago, Siard said:

Yes I wiped my drivers and installed it all again, justo be sure it was properly installed.

I did, but that still not gives me nearly the same amount or the FPS number I had at least in mind.

I don't know my RAM usage, thought that the 8GB would be fine. I will try to see what my RAM usage is in game in a couple of minutes.

Yea I know, that's why I googled if my i5 3450 would bottleneck and found many people saying "no it won't". I even asked here (Will this upgrade bottleneck?) on the forum. I understand my FPS can drop by like 2 or 3 because of my CPU being a bit older, but i think this is a significant drop in performance. 

Well either you didnt tell them what game you would be playing or those people didn't know what they're talking about. BF1 is brutal on even an i5 6600k.

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Check your CPU usage in games. If it's 100% then it's bottlenecking. My i7-4770 is bottlenecking me in Watch Dogs 2 and BF1, dropping frames from 100+ to 50 at times...

If CPU is not the problem, check if something is preventing ur frames from going up. Check GPU usage and see if it's 100% and using its full potential. I would also try deleting and resetting the configs for some of the games to see if that helps. Also, check if you have any power saving features turned on. Although it's not a laptop, the power saver plan might have been set for some random reason.

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My RX 480 gives me 90 fps in BF1 1080p Ultra..

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4 minutes ago, Komplett said:

My RX 480 gives me 90 fps in BF1 1080p Ultra..

I got similar performance in the beta. There's definitely something wrong with the OP's PC somewhere else that isnt the GPU.

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I just monitored my RAM usage ingame, and that's certainly not the problem.

As kidsnd274 mentioned, my CPU is almost constantly on 100% (some times 99%)... So that means my CPU is bottlenecking now? :(

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6 minutes ago, Siard said:

I just monitored my RAM usage ingame, and that's certainly not the problem.

As kidsnd274 mentioned, my CPU is almost constantly on 100% (some times 99%)... So that means my CPU is bottlenecking now? :(

Yea.

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well if that's the case, I have no other choice than to buy a new CPU. but with that also comes a new motherboard (my current one only supports 1155), new RAM (than I'm also going to upgrade to DDR4)... RIP money :P

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ETS2 runs on toaster, so your CPU is not the real culprit here.

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26 minutes ago, Siard said:

well if that's the case, I have no other choice than to buy a new CPU. but with that also comes a new motherboard (my current one only supports 1155), new RAM (than I'm also going to upgrade to DDR4)... RIP money :P

You could try and find an i7 3770.

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40 minutes ago, Siard said:

I just monitored my RAM usage ingame, and that's certainly not the problem.

As kidsnd274 mentioned, my CPU is almost constantly on 100% (some times 99%)... So that means my CPU is bottlenecking now? :(

YUP, check GPU usage when cpu is at 100%

Let's agree to disagree

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@Siard Did you run DDU and then reinstall the new drivers? Because simply uninstalling via add/remove programs or AMD's uninstaller doesn't remove everything that needs to be removed and it can still cause problems. If you haven't run DDU, do that, then reinstall and see if that helps. 

 

When you open task manager, look for which programs are running that are using up the majority of the CPU usage. That CPU is a little weak by today's standards, but should not be holding back your system by that much, IMO. 

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5 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

YUP, check GPU usage when cpu is at 100%

Yea I did that before, and I was noticing that my GPU usage wasn't stable at 100% but was all over the place from 100% to at some times lower than 20% 

5 minutes ago, MEC-777 said:

@Siard Did you run DDU and then reinstall the new drivers? Because simply uninstalling via add/remove programs or AMD's uninstaller doesn't remove everything that needs to be removed and it can still cause problems. If you haven't run DDU, do that, then reinstall and see if that helps. 

 

When you open task manager, look for which programs are running that are using up the majority of the CPU usage. That CPU is a little weak by today's standards, but should not be holding back your system by that much, IMO. 

No I didn't, thanks for telling me! Will try that first than. ;)

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1 minute ago, Siard said:

Yea I did that before, and I was noticing that my GPU usage wasn't stable at 100% but was all over the place from 100% to at some times lower than 20% 

No I didn't, thanks for telling me! Will try that first than. ;)

BF1 is a huge cpu hog ... glad i didnt buy it lel 

Let's agree to disagree

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Pop in a good VecTrex Emulator Title and watch those FPS sore through roof and you'll forget the boringness of Battlefield shortly after 

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I wonder if this is normal behaviour for a graphics card?The attached file is a log of my GPU's behaviour (core clock, memory clock, GPU load and GPU only power draw) ingame (BF1). Can you tell me if this is normal?

 

 

GPU-Z Sensor Log.txt

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