Apple blames Ambient air for iPhone 6S battery problems

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2016 has just not been a good year for batteries eh?

 

As you know Apple released a replacement plan last month for iPhone 6S batteries. Apple is now saying that the battery problems in the iPhone 6S is the result of too much "controlled ambient air" from sitting open in a warehouse for too long. Whatever that means... To me, it just sounds like they're making these up as they go.

 

There are also reports of 6S devices that are unaffected according to Apple, showing the same symptoms and no word if the plan will extend to those devices as well. But Apple is going to be releasing more diagnostic tools in the upcoming iOS update to better understand what's causing these battery life problems.

 

Still no official word from Apple if a similar battery replacement plan will be available for iPhone 6 devices.

 

This may be me putting on tin foil hats, but it will be interesting to see if there is a connection between this and the battery life problems reported on the new MacBook Pro 15" models. Apple's philosophy of products that just work perfectly out of the box is starting to getting tarnished with the fiasco with dongles and now, batteries.

 

Edit: iPhone 6S Plus models are "unaffected".

 

Source: Ars Technica

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/12/software-fixes-in-the-works-for-iphone-6s-battery-and-shutdown-problems/

[VerticalDiscussions]

 

2016 has been a good year for batteries, for some at least xD. No, thats not mine.

 

Isnt the warehouse suppose to be in a controlled environment with 99,99% of all bacteria/microbes absent from its surroundings? Or shouldnt it also be a vacuum sealed chamber, with 99,99% of oxygen and nitrogen in those warehouses? No perfect vacuum exists sadly :(.

[potoooooooo]

11 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

2016 has just not been a good year

FTFY

[Slottr]

Is this just on the 6s Plus? My 6s I bought last year has been a piece of shit when it came to battery. 

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

19 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Is this just on the 6s Plus? My 6s I bought last year has been a piece of shit when it came to battery. 

The replacement plan is for the iPhone 6S.

 

Edited December 7, 2016 by BlueChinchillaEatingDorito

[79wjd]

2 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

As of right now, the battery replacement program is just for the 6S Plus.

 

It's NOT for the Plus.  It's for the normal 6s.

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

11 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

It's NOT for the Plus.  It's for the normal 6s.

Corrected. Thanks for the catch.

[Syntaxvgm]

Fucking air. Not apple compatible. 

 

They're just mad becuase the supreme court said they cannot patent a flat screen, round corners, and an icon grid

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

2 minutes ago, Syntaxvgm said:

Fucking air. Not apple compatible. 

 

They're just mad becuase the supreme court said they cannot patent a flat screen, round corners, and an icon grid

What is compatible with Apple nowadays? Every thing just seems to break. Boot camp, USB-C dongles, the list goes on.

[Syntaxvgm]

6 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

What is compatible with Apple nowadays? Every thing just seems to break. Boot camp, USB-C dongles, the list goes on.

you'll need to attach a pair of human lungs via headphone jack and in the case of the iphone 7 headphone jack to lightning jack adapter. Your phone can't breathe and charge at the same time, though. 

[Trik'Stari]

Oh cognitive dissonance, thy name is Apple.

[bcredeur97]

i would use this as an excuse to replace my 550 cycle battery in my iphone 6S right now but then I'd lose my jailbreak...

 

honestly it's just because the battery is so small and people burn through it so fast and go through so many cycles. right around ~400 cycles are so the voltage will drop sharply when charge gets relatively low (~around 20% or less usually) and sometimes these voltage drops will cause the device to shut off or reboot. 

geniuses need to just put a bigger battery in the stupid phone. not only will it last longer in day to day usage but it will also go through fewer cycles overtime, increasing the lifespan of the battery. 

 

My 6S only holds ~75% of it's original capacity after these 550 cycles btw if anyone is curious (I've had the phone for about a year now, a little over that). cool cydia app called "BatteryLife" where you can get all this info

[zMeul]

title is extremely misleading

Apple doesn't blame the air, they blame the conditions phone's components were stored in

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As a result of our investigation on this, we found that a small number of iPhone 6s devices made in September and October 2015 contained a battery component that was exposed to controlled ambient air longer than it should have been before being assembled into battery packs.

 

[rattacko123]

14 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

My 6S only holds ~75% of it's original capacity after these 550 cycles btw if anyone is curious (I've had the phone for about a year now, a little over that). cool cydia app called "BatteryLife" where you can get all this info

Same for my iphone 5, I end up using about 50% everyday, which is 180 something cycles per year and I have been using  for 3 (4?) years

[JoseGuya]

32 minutes ago, bcredeur97 said:

capacity after these 550 cycles btw if anyone is curious (I've had the phone for about a year now, a little over that). cool cydia app called "BatteryLife" where you can get all this info

Battery Life (with space) is available without jailbreak, with all that info...

[RedRound2]

What the hell does the word 'blame' mean in the title?!

Wtf are mods here for?

This is exactly the shit why Apple gets too much anti apple haters here, due to pathetic misleading bullshit

 

Apple, which fanboys just completely ignored is offering a free replacement for batteries. Why? Because they found out that those batteries were exposed to ambient air longer than it should've during assembly

 

Any idiot who learned chemistry in 11th and 12th know the inner workings of a fucking battery and can easily conclude how disastrous than can actually turn out to be

 

Can't understand how ignorant people can be these days

 

And wow the correlation between the MBP and a small number of defective batteries in a 1.5 year old phone. Just Wow

[Prysin]

lol what a load of bullshit

[Sauron]

You don't get to pull an Apollo 1 Apple, this is nonsense and we all know it. If the pressure difference in the warehouse (which I assume is what they're referring to, since nothing else would affect the battery in any way) is enough to cause problems then the product was poorly designed just like the note 7 (well, maybe not as poorly, but still).

[AlTech]

10 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

2016 has just not been a good year for batteries eh?

 

As you know Apple released a replacement plan last month for iPhone 6S batteries. Apple is now saying that the battery problems in the iPhone 6S is the result of too much "controlled ambient air" from sitting open in a warehouse for too long. Whatever that means... To me, it just sounds like they're making these up as they go.

 

There are also reports of 6S devices that are unaffected according to Apple, showing the same symptoms and no word if the plan will extend to those devices as well. But Apple is going to be releasing more diagnostic tools in the upcoming iOS update to better understand what's causing these battery life problems.

 

Still no official word from Apple if a similar battery replacement plan will be available for iPhone 6 devices.

 

This may be me putting on tin foil hats, but it will be interesting to see if there is a connection between this and the battery life problems reported on the new MacBook Pro 15" models. Apple's philosophy of products that just work perfectly out of the box is starting to getting tarnished with the fiasco with dongles and now, batteries.

 

Edit: iPhone 6S Plus models are "unaffected".

 

Source: Ars Technica

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2016/12/software-fixes-in-the-works-for-iphone-6s-battery-and-shutdown-problems/

Your post needs a quote.

[AlTech]

 

8 hours ago, bcredeur97 said:

i would use this as an excuse to replace my 550 cycle battery in my iphone 6S right now but then I'd lose my jailbreak...

Lithium Ion batteries are typically rated for 1000 charge cycles before any battery capacity dropoff happens.

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honestly it's just because the battery is so small and people burn through it so fast and go through so many cycles.

The smaller a Lithium Ion battery, the less charge is lost past the 1000 cycles.

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right around ~400 cycles are so the voltage will drop sharply when charge gets relatively low (~around 20% or less usually) and sometimes these voltage drops will cause the device to shut off or reboot. 

 

geniuses need to just put a bigger battery in the stupid phone. not only will it last longer in day to day usage but it will also go through fewer cycles overtime, increasing the lifespan of the battery. 

You have no idea what you're talking about. In the short term, a 3000mAh battery will get you longer battery life than a 2000mAh battery.

 

HOWEVER, after 2 years the 3000mAh battery will retain less charge than the 2000mAh battery. Charging cycles are not directly impacted by battery size. 1 Charging cycle is from 0% battery to 80% battery. Another is from 80% to 100%.

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My 6S only holds ~75% of it's original capacity after these 550 cycles btw if anyone is curious

because you've abused the battery. Nothing more to discuss.

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(I've had the phone for about a year now, a little over that). cool cydia app called "BatteryLife" where you can get all this info

Because you're assuming everybody owns an iPhone?

 

[Bouzoo]

7 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Your post needs a quote.

If it has all relevant information and explains it quite well, it doesn't need a quote. 

[AlTech]

Just now, Bouzoo said:

If it has all relevant information and explains it quite well, it doesn't need a quote. 

You must be blind.

 

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[JoseGuya]

4 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

 

Because you're assuming everybody owns an iPhone?

 

Did you just assume my gender? (smartphone edit) 

[AlTech]

1 minute ago, JoseGuya said:

Did you just assume my gender? (smartphone edit) 

WTF are you talking about? If it's not related at all the put it somewhere else.

[Bouzoo]

11 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

You must be blind.

I've been posting them almost since I joined, often without a quote, never had a single one locked (unless repost) since they were more than thorough enough and always contained all the needed information if they didn't include a quote. Same goes for many, many other people, including the old News Reporters.

 

You've been here as long as I have and never noticed that? Talk about being blind.

 

Notice the parts:

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Your thread should...
Failure to comply may result...

It's not in absolutes. *Insert Sith joke* 

 

This has all the needed information that you need. Imo doesn't need a quote but I'm not the police here. 

 

Either way, way off topic.