FX 8300 with Dual 480's?

[The11thDoctor28]

1 minute ago, Sintezza said:

Depends on the resolution, and the games you play.

At 1080p there will be a bottleneck.

On 4K not so much.

How would the resolution being higher stop the bottleneck? (Or dim it down)

[Nena Trinity]

12 minutes ago, Sintezza said:

Depends on the resolution, and the games you play.

At 1080p there will be a bottleneck.

On 4K not so much.

1080p it is fine if the game can use it properly, Heroes of the Storm does not use it properly but Overwatch will use all 8 just fine!

[Curious Pineapple]

10 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

How would the resolution being higher stop the bottleneck? (Or dim it down)

The higher the resolution, the more work (and time) it will take to render, meaning there's a lower FPS, and less work the CPU needs to do to keep up.

[The11thDoctor28]

2 minutes ago, Nena360 said:

1080p it is fine if the game can use it properly, Heroes of the Storm does not use it properly but Overwatch will use all 8 just fine!

Would this CPU be able to handle two cards?

 

2 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

The higher the resolution, the more work (and time) it will take to render, meaning there's a lower FPS, and less work the CPU needs to do to keep up.

Do you think 2560x1080 would work in my situation then?

[Curious Pineapple]

Just now, The11thDoctor28 said:

Would this CPU be able to handle two cards?

 

Do you think 2560x1080 would work in my situation then?

Not got a clue, I have a GPU that a potato wouldn't bottleneck and a 1920x1080 display

[The11thDoctor28]

I still have no idea what to think. Some people are saying it'll be fine, the bottleneck won't be that bad or it will bottleneck one card on it's own. WHAT DO I DO

[LeStringMan]

6 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

I still have no idea what to think. Some people are saying it'll be fine, the bottleneck won't be that bad or it will bottleneck one card on it's own. WHAT DO I DO

Edit: RX 480 in crossfire is a bit slower than a 1080, but you get the point, it will bottleneck, playing at 2560x1080 might soften it a bit, but it will still slow the cards down unless heavily overclocked, or unless you are playing an entirely gpu bound game, which there a very few of on the market at this time.

Edited October 12, 2016 by LeStringMan

[Infin8]

If I only had 200$ I'd look into the classified thread here or maybe on Craigslist. If they are close to you you could try cpu/me out to check for broken hardware. Do you expect to have an extra 200$ in the near future (to buy your 2nd 480)? If so I'd wait and get a solid cpu/MB combo then. 

[Sintezza]

53 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

How would the resolution being higher stop the bottleneck? (Or dim it down)

If you play a game that has a good optimization for crossfire.

Then on 1080p a dual RX480 will be able to push soo manny frames that in certain cpu demending games, the cpu will have a hard time to keep feeding those cards.

So in otherwords, the cards will have to wait untill the cpu is ready.

This will effect your overall gpu ultilization.

I can say that a dual RX480 will get bottlenecked at 1080p in cpu demending games by pretty much every cpu out there today.

 

However if we go up in resolution to lets say 4K, which basicly is a way higher resolution.

Then those dual RX480 are basicly able to push way less frames.

And in that scenario the cpu will have way less problems to keep feeding those cards.

 

[The11thDoctor28]

6 minutes ago, Infin8 said:

If I only had 200$ I'd look into the classified thread here or maybe on Craigslist. If they are close to you you could try cpu/me out to check for broken hardware. Do you expect to have an extra 200$ in the near future (to buy your 2nd 480)? If so I'd wait and get a solid cpu/MB combo then. 

Again I already own the 8300

Would the extra core count help with two cards?

[Sintezza]

i personaly dont see much of a reason for dual gpu setups at lower resolutions like 1080p tbh.

A single RX480 or GTX1060 are more then capable to play any games maxed out at 1080p with more then playable frame rates.

You could buy a second RX480 but on 1080p i dont realy see much reasons for it tbh.

I´m personaly not a huge fan of dual gpu setups in the first place.

 

[Clanscorpia]

7 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

Again I already own the 8300

Would the extra core count help with two cards?

No because all the cores are slow. Why do you need 2 480s anyway?!

[Festive]

You are making a mistake by buying the 8300, it's slow and outdated and will DEFINITELY bottleneck ONE 480. Adding another 480 is a waste of time and money. Send the 8300 back and buy an i5 like the 6400 or the 6500 and a cheap H170 mobo and you will be MUCH happier. Don't make a poor choice when it comes to your CPU/GPU combo, your gaming experience will fall very short of your expectations.

[The11thDoctor28]

26 minutes ago, Festive said:

You are making a mistake by buying the 8300, it's slow and outdated and will DEFINITELY bottleneck ONE 480. Adding another 480 is a waste of time and money. Send the 8300 back and buy an i5 like the 6400 or the 6500 and a cheap H170 mobo and you will be MUCH happier. Don't make a poor choice when it comes to your CPU/GPU combo, your gaming experience will fall very short of your expectations.

Again I simply do not have the money even for an i5. Anything to support that the 8300 will bottleneck ONE 480? I really don't believe that.

[Festive]

41 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

Again I simply do not have the money even for an i5. Anything to support that the 8300 will bottleneck ONE 480? I really don't believe that.

In that case, you dont really have a choice. You will be bottlenecked and an i5 will perform better but you will maintain 60+fps in almost every game at 1080p no matter the settings. But with 2 480s, thats where I would say one again, its a big mistake.

[YongKang]

Just get 1 480 for the moment. I don`t recommend crossfire with the cpu that you have. Nothing can be done since you bought the cpu.

[Morgan Everett]

2 hours ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

Again I simply do not have the money even for an i5. Anything to support that the 8300 will bottleneck ONE 480? I really don't believe that.

Why not hold off on the second 480 instead? You could also sell the 8300. 

[ivan134]

Why are you planning to cross fire if you're on a limited budget?

[The11thDoctor28]

2 hours ago, ivan134 said:

Why are you planning to cross fire if you're on a limited budget?

I can get the 480 this December, and no I cannot just wait until then because my PC is broken.

[ivan134]

24 minutes ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

I can get the 480 this December, and no I cannot just wait until then because my PC is broken.

What games do you play?

[Earnhardt]

Here's why it depends on the game:

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gears-of-war-4-pc-vga-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,1.html

 

quote"

"The last graphics card is the Mc Daddy that is bound to show CPU bottlenecks due to it's massive horsepower, the Nvidia GeForce Titan X (Pascal) is way ahead of its time and priced 1300 USD alone. Up-to 2560x1440 you are fine. But sure at 1080P we finally run into CPU overhead. Honestly that is expected. Overall we can conclude though that up-to say a Radeon Fury X or GeForce GTX 1080 an AMD FX 8370 now is sufficient enough to run the game. "

 

I currently run a FX8350 @4.5Ghz,I would say I'm pretty much at the limit with Crossfired 7970's(R9280X),I ran the same GPU's with a Phenom II 1100T@4.0Ghz with the same results.

so In your case I would stick with a single RX480.

I have also been running crossfire in every series since the 3870's and have had 0 issues.

[Marinatall_Ironside]

11 hours ago, The11thDoctor28 said:

Would the Bottleneck be THAT bad? Because there's bound to be a bottleneck somewhere in every build right?

It depends on the game, whether it's been coded to utilize the GPU more than the CPU like how synthetic benchmarks work. Since most games are CPU-bound anyways (depends on how bound it is based on a variety of factors), there's going to be a significant bottleneck if you're running your games at low resolutions/settings to achieve higher FPS. Games like TERA (which is so badly optimize that a) the GPU(s) are underutilized, and b) AMD-powered systems (CPU-wise) does not have as great of an optimization according to @Candren Lycosa) You will notice that your GPU(s) are bottlenecked if you run your games at higher fidelity and there little to no change in FPS, but your GPU is being used more.

 

9 hours ago, Sintezza said:

Depends on the resolution, and the games you play.

At 1080p there will be a bottleneck.

On 4K not so much.

 

[Marinatall_Ironside]

9 hours ago, Nena360 said:

1080p it is fine if the game can use it properly, Heroes of the Storm does not use it properly but Overwatch will use all 8 just fine!

How does Heroes of the Storm not use higher resolutions pretty well? I ran that game at 1440p and I didn't find any issues (save for the blurriness since I use Nvidia DSR to achieve that)

[Candren Lycosa]

2 hours ago, JurunceNK said:

It depends on the game, whether it's been coded to utilize the GPU more than the CPU like how synthetic benchmarks work. Since most games are CPU-bound anyways (depends on how bound it is based on a variety of factors), there's going to be a significant bottleneck if you're running your games at low resolutions/settings to achieve higher FPS. Games like TERA (which is so badly optimize that a) the GPU(s) are underutilized, and b) AMD-powered systems (CPU-wise) does not have as great of an optimization according to @Candren Lycosa) You will notice that your GPU(s) are bottlenecked if you run your games at higher fidelity and there little to no change in FPS, but your GPU is being used more.

 

 

Actually to be exact, TERA's AMD (CPU end, idk about the GPU department) optimization is basically nonexistent for some odd reason, also I did testing with the game and found that the GPU utilization is a complete joke (10-15% regardless of graphic settings) which is also another reason why the game runs like crap. (Imagine playing an MMO that requires you to dodge and aim manually at 2-10 fps, because that's what my fps is in that game)

[Morgan MLGman]

14 hours ago, ivan134 said:

Cancel the order, and get an i5 6500

This wouldn't be much better tbh. An i7-6700 would be the least I'd recommend