nVidia G-sync

[Nicktrance]

 
Nvidia head Jen-Hsung Huang has revealed G-Sync, a module for gaming monitors designed to get the best of both worlds from using and not using vSync. Huang said that being designs by two completely different industries, an important feature such as vSync could never work correctly and that is why nVidia is already on board with partners such as ASUS, Benq Philips and Viewsonic to integrate this new technology.
 
It allows the GPU to take control of the scanning, varying the refresh rate of the monitor to match the amount of frames being delivered by the GPU thus allowing users to get rid of both tearing from not using vSync and the lag and stutter that results from using vSync.

 

 

According to Ujesh Desai this gear shouldn't make much difference in terms of pricing of new monitors and it should work with all Kepler GPUs and up.

 

This is probably the "most amazing thing" that has been rumoured recently. Nvidia has set up a demo but looking at the stream, I can't get a good idea since I'm watching it through a camera but Linus seems impressed and I can see some difference in terms of tearing or lack thereof.

Sources: stream: http://www.twitch.tv/linustech/
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[MrSuperb]

 

Nvidia head Jen-Hsung Huang has revealed G-Sync, a module for gaming monitors designes to get the best of both worlds from using and not using vSync.

 

Developing...

 

you are late

[_ASSASSIN_]

you are late

he was the first to post what it actually is ya know..

[gill2k]

I guess calling it "N-Sync" was out of the question...

 

[MrSuperb]

he was the first to post what it actually is ya know..

alright ... let a mod merge those threads

[Matsy]

No way am I buying an expensive "gaming" monitor for "Gsync" which will only work with specific nvidia cards

[_ASSASSIN_]

No way am I buying an expensive "gaming" monitor for "Gsync" which will only work with specific nvidia cards

too much propeitary kills your company when you don't have a good product, look at what happened to Sony and their cameras and custom SD cards

[kuddlesworth9419]

No way am I buying an expensive "gaming" monitor for "Gsync" which will only work with specific nvidia cards

We haven't heard how much it costs yet. I think if it's £50 more then without G-Sync then it's a very good price. Think about it for a second. Having a game with no tearing or stutter or one without G-sync but with stuttering and tearing. Do you think £50-£100 is worth it because I do.

[Warcony]

Great now there will be a whole new class of "gaming" monitors and they will be x100 more expensive than "normal" monitors.  Also have to buy a $600+ gpu. NICE. At least I can get 3 games (which they choose for me) and $100 off Shield!!!!!!!!!!! *North Murica only

[MrSuperb]

Great now there will be a whole new class of "gaming" monitors and they will be x100 more expensive than "normal" monitors.  Also have to buy a $600+ gpu. NICE. At least I can get 3 games and $100 off Shield!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

No, you will get smoother gameplay with less expensive gpus

[old reece frost]

Nvidia, pretty much everyone has monitors at this point, so the ain't gunna sell them just for G-Sync, even if these monitors are 4K, people are going to go with the cheaper 4K models since 4K is already a lot of money. Y u do dis?

[Warcony]

No, you will get smoother gameplay with less expensive gpus

 

My gameplay is already smooth with my AMD card and my normal monitor.  The only issues I get are due to my internet connection.  Maybe they should invent a sync that they put in routers to help that out (obviously just joking around with this)?  And there will probably be steep card restrictions (not all kepler cards) and you have to buy a new monitor, and they will be VERY expensive just like any other "gaming" grade product.

[Nicktrance]

you are late

Can't find any news about it. I'll keep it up to date as the stream progresses.

[Kirihuna]

Nvidia, pretty much everyone has monitors at this point, so the ain't gunna sell them just for G-Sync, even if these monitors are 4K, people are going to go with the cheaper 4K models since 4K is already a lot of money. Y u do dis?

Because people will eventually upgrade.

[Hans Christian | Teri]

Nvidia, pretty much everyone has monitors at this point, so the ain't gunna sell them just for G-Sync, even if these monitors are 4K, people are going to go with the cheaper 4K models since 4K is already a lot of money. Y u do dis?

 

Because it's wrong. G-Sync is a proper good technology and shouldn't increase the price of the monitors by a lot. The biggest problem with it is that it requires NVIDIA graphics card (just like Mantle requires an AMD card), and that may just end up killing both technologies (I say G-Sync has a better chance than Mantle though). A somewhat smaller problem but much more relevant for me is that they most likely wont be incorporating this technology in actual good screens like UltraSharps etc.

[TechFan@ic]

A little bit more info about G-Sync.

What G-Sync is & what it does :

G-Sync is a new synchronization technology by Nvidia, that allows the monitor's refresh rate to match the games frames per second in real time.
So the monitor is no longer maintaining a fixed refreash rate of 60hz or 120hz, instead the monitor would refresh the image with every new frame in the game.

 

This is achieved by embedding a GPU into the panel that handles the refresh computation and traffic, this eliminates tearing & reduces stutter.

Asus, BenQ, PHILIPS & ViewSonic will have monitors with this new technology coming soon.

[MrSuperb]

My gameplay is already smooth with my AMD card and my normal monitor.

Great, why would they even develop GPUs?

[MrSuperb]

This is huge, but it shouldn't be NVIDIA exclusive.

 

This should be in every monitor and work with every GPU !!!

[eshbop]

No way am I buying an expensive "gaming" monitor for "Gsync" which will only work with specific nvidia cards

Yep. No doubt they will only have this 'G-sync module' in 60Hz or 120/144Hz TN panels (Jen-Hsun said it'll be in "gaming monitors"). Not everything I do on my computer is gaming, I still want a monitor that looks good all the time . Also, what happens in a few years when you want an AMD card, you've paid for this big feature that is now useless.

 

I'd be excited if this was going to be implemented in IPS monitors and could work with all cards, I'm not sure why this would be restricted to Kepler. The technology to dynamically alter a monitors refresh rate on the fly couldn't be that specific, could it?

[Matsy]

This will be in TN monitors only I would imagine for a long time.

Which is a big no no.

 

Restricting this to only nvidia kelper cards is greedy....but understandable.

I'll stick with adaptive vsync its good at what it does.

[Warcony]

Great, why would they even develop GPUs?

 

I think that g-sync is pretty awesome and it will make gameplay better, but it is going to be extremely expensive and hard for the average person to afford it. IMO the development of gpus should be focused on getting the most amount of performance to the most number of people.

[Kilerbomb]

I honestly couldn't care less about screen tearing. I don't even notice it if I'm playing, and I'm the kind of person who always turns V-sync off because I want that extra responsiveness.

[MrSuperb]

I honestly couldn't care less about screen tearing. I don't even notice it if I'm playing, and I'm the kind of person who always turns V-sync off because I want that extra responsiveness.

 

your are running a 7990 .... now think back when AMD drivers sucked with a lot of stuttering .... this would have been awesome

[Kilerbomb]

your are running a 7990 .... now think back when AMD drivers sucked with a lot of stuttering .... this would have been awesome

G-sync wouldn't eliminate micro-stuttering. Just screen tearing.

[Fetzie]

your are running a 7990 .... now think back when AMD drivers sucked with a lot of stuttering .... this would have been awesome

 

But they fixed that without you having to buy a new monitor.

 

I don't see this taking off, because people upgrade their monitors a lot less frequently than their other hardware. My last monitor lasted nearly 7 years before the back-light broke.