Should I get an i5 or and i7

[smokefest]

i5 is not bottlenecking you guys are so funny, and the chart you posted is so wrong. numbers are fake in it mostly.
 

 

[Joeteck]

2 minutes ago, smokefest said:

its revelent

 

It can't be. The PCI-e technology is older than the card. I would compare a newer i5 (1151) on a PCI-e 3.0 slot and see how it games. 

[smokefest]

See the video the frames are mostly the same in GTA 5 ,

maybe a little edge on the 6700k , really not worth it.

I7 will last longer for sure , for your question. I7 is the best cpu for sure, but not so worth the money for gaming. end of story

 

 

 

[don_svetlio]

1 hour ago, smokefest said:

i5 is not bottlenecking you guys are so funny, and the chart you posted is so wrong. numbers are fake in it mostly.

 

 

i5s Bottleneck the 1070. Accept it. Feel free to ask @Prysin or @Dackzy

 

1 hour ago, smokefest said:

 

What GPU is that?

[smokefest]

7 minutes ago, don_svetlio said:

 

 

i5s Bottleneck the 1070. Accept it. Feel free to ask @Prysin or @Dackzy

This video is so wrong

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

This video is so wrong

So rather than admit that i5s have reached their limit, you are saying the world is wrong and you are correct? Sorry but no. At 1080, i5s bottleneck 1070s and above. DEAL. WITH. IT.

[smokefest]

 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

 

1 - that is not a 1070
2 - that is old
3 - you can clearly see the stock 6600K being quite a bit slower than the i7 counterparts and even when OCed it still lags behind

[smokefest]

So where is the bottleneck ?

 

 

As tyou can see with real benchmarks, it shows a almost none- bottle neck on the i5 on gtx 1080

As you can see, bottleneck is almost not present on 1080.

 

gg

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

So where is the bottleneck ?

 

 

As tyou can see with real benchmarks, it shows a almost none- bottle neck on the i5 on gtx 1080

As you can see, bottleneck is almost not present on 1080.

 

gg

For god's sake, your typing is getting harder and harder to understand. Please speak clearly, it is difficult to argue with gibberish

[Dackzy]

A i5 bottlenecks a 1070 in some games, GTA V is one very good exsample of this, where there is 10% FPS difference between a i5 and i7.

 

Also a i5 is really not that great anymore, with Vsync on so max 60fps the i5 is 70% and up, this means that if you let the GPU run as it wants then that would put more load on the CPU, also look at how a i5 is at 99% in witcher 3 with a 1060

 

[smokefest]

I7 is better i agree, but wouldnt say a i5 is weak for a gtx 1070 or 1080, you get almost the same damn fps. would I pay 150$ more for 5 more fps ? nah

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

I7 is better i agree, but wouldnt say a i5 is weak for a gtx 1070 or 1080, you get almost the same damn fps. would I pay 150$ more for 5 more fps ? nah

not really - at 1080p the difference 25%

[smokefest]

127 fps VS 130,  192 VS 205, 

Far cry  90 VS 115   is significant, 

All the other games frames are soooo close,

Wich tell again that the i5 is the better choice, the i7 is better, but sooo damn close that not worth it. and most of benchmarks games are mostly equal in fps

[Sir Snuffy]

What will you be using this PC for the most? What do you mean by normal video-editing? If it is mainly gaming oriented, I'd go with the 6500. Hyper-threading on the i7 won't boost your game fps that much, so it wouldn't be worth the price. If you have the money to dish out on the i7, I'd get the 6600k and overclock it, you'll see a nice boost in games there.

 

If your PC will be mostly used for video editing, with your normal editing including a lot of rendering that takes a while, get the i7 - rendering will be much faster. If you go with that option, I'd pay a bit more and get the 6700k to overclock.

 

TL;DR: If your PC is mainly for gaming, go with the i5 - if the opposite then go with the i7. If on a budget, the i5 is the way to go.

[Dackzy]

I should also add that my 4770k in BF1 1440p mid settings I get 50-70fps and my CPU load can go up to 78% and is very often around 60%

[smokefest]

in 90% of the benchmarks in games ive watch on youtube, theres almost no difference between i7 and i5.

Not sayin i5 is better than i7. 

[Dackzy]

Just now, smokefest said:

in 90% of the benchmarks in games ive watch on youtube, theres almost no difference between i7 and i5.

Not sayin i5 is better than i7. 

The FPS on the i7 is often more stable and that is really nice.

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

in 90% of the benchmarks in games ive watch on youtube, theres almost no difference between i7 and i5.

Not sayin i5 is better than i7. 

Those 90% of games are OLD - that is what I am trying to tell you. MODERN games use all 8 threads on the i7 and that results in 20% better performance.

[smokefest]

I agree with sir snuffy, i5 for gaming i7 for editing,

i7 if you ahve lot of money and give no fuck,

i5 for all the rest of utilisation. including gaming  even if you ahve a gtx 1080 ( yes )

unless you wanna pay the extra 150$ for 5-10% frames increase in like..... 10% of the games on the market

 

Wich games ?

 

only 1 ive seen gettin 20% is far cry

 

 

Wticher 3 no difference, bf1 no difference, tell me what games ill check on youtube

 

[don_svetlio]

Just now, smokefest said:

Wich games ?

 

only 1 ive seen gettin 20% is far cry

 

Ashes, Hitman, RotTR, Witcher 3 (Just go to Novigrad), Deus Ex MD, Cities Skyline and etc

[smokefest]

Wonder why AMD 8 core dosnt perform well if all games use all cores nowadays

[don_svetlio]

1 minute ago, smokefest said:

Wonder why AMD 8 core dosnt perform well if all games use all cores nowadays

Actually, the 8350 performs quite decently in those games usually on par with lower-clocked i5s (the shared FPU is still a problem for FX8 gaming)

[Dackzy]

1 minute ago, smokefest said:

Wonder why AMD 8 core dosnt perform well if all games use all cores nowadays

Have you heard of single core performance? If you have a 8 core with very meh single core performance and a i7 6700k with pretty damn good single core performance with HT, then the i7 is going to be better because it has better performance per core and then you have HT  that gives you about what 25% more performance per core

[smokefest]

Yeah i agree 8350 performs well. but not as much as any intel because of the single core performance on intel.
 

 

No difference in ROTTR

 

Yea because games dosnt use much cores. Maybe one day but now still the single core performance is the most important factor in games.

Wish you guys were right so we can buy cheap 8 core amd and performs well in futur games butr all the games i check with the i7 runs almost as the same fps as the i5.

Games you named included