High End video cards worth it?

[PCPat27]

Ok, so I was kinda just wanting to make a poll but also get a discussion started about mid-high end video cards (1070,1080,980ti etc.)

 

I am currently running a gtx 950, and I can play CSGO 250fps, and Rainbow Six Siege 100fps medium/high, modded mine craft 110fps fancy graphics. Personally I have never been in the AAA games like doom, Witcher, Fallout, things like, but I'm sure I could still get solid 45-60 fps medium.

 

Basically, I can understand the point of having something such as a gtx 970 or gtx 1060. Those can play most new AAA games at medium to high at 60fps constant. Which is great. I just don't understand the niche of the higher end cards. I can understand if you doing some graphic processing software (like non-games) that better video cards could be beneficial for that. However, honestly, other than being able to say you have the latest and greatest video card, whats the point? 

 

 

I used to be extremely worried when I first built my rig (i3-6100, GTX 950] that I would not be getting good frames and I would constantly be lower graphics settings or having to play in 720p or something. For the first month or two, literally all I looked at was my fps counter when playing a game. I was so focused on wanting that number to stay high that I forgot about the game. I would have task manager open and gpu/Cpu temp monitors going, just to make sure everything was working at optimal level.

And then I saw this video and it changed my perspective on pc gaming and why you need high end video cards.

 

 I'm not trying to nag on the people that have awesome video cards. I'm just trying to tell people looking to upgrade and future pc builders that you don't need to best of the best to enjoy some. I got so worked up by watching LinusTechTips and all the other computer channels about the new video cards and getting 60fps 4k in Witcher 3 that I forgot to realize that I didn't need to be getting a million frames in csgo. I just need to enjoy playing the game. 

[App4that]

Yes, anyone who says differently is a pleb. 

 

*joke sign

[aries757]

12 hours ago, PCPat27 said:

Ok, so I was kinda just wanting to make a poll but also get a discussion started about mid-high end video cards (1070,1080,980ti etc.)

 

I am currently running a gtx 950, and I can play CSGO 250fps, and Rainbow Six Siege 100fps medium/high, modded mine craft 110fps fancy graphics. Personally I have never been in the AAA games like doom, Witcher, Fallout, things like, but I'm sure I could still get solid 45-60 fps medium.

 

Basically, I can understand the point of having something such as a gtx 970 or gtx 1060. Those can play most new AAA games at medium to high at 60fps constant. Which is great. I just don't understand the niche of the higher end cards. I can understand if you doing some graphic processing software (like non-games) that better video cards could be beneficial for that. However, honestly, other than being able to say you have the latest and greatest video card, whats the point? 

 

 

I used to be extremely worried when I first built my rig (i3-6100, GTX 950] that I would not be getting good frames and I would constantly be lower graphics settings or having to play in 720p or something. For the first month or two, literally all I looked at was my fps counter when playing a game. I was so focused on wanting that number to stay high that I forgot about the game. I would have task manager open and gpu/Cpu temp monitors going, just to make sure everything was working at optimal level.

And then I saw this video and it changed my perspective on pc gaming and why you need high end video cards.

 

 I'm not trying to nag on the people that have awesome video cards. I'm just trying to tell people looking to upgrade and future pc builders that you don't need to best of the best to enjoy some. I got so worked up by watching LinusTechTips and all the other computer channels about the new video cards and getting 60fps 4k in Witcher 3 that I forgot to realize that I didn't need to be getting a million frames in csgo. I just need to enjoy playing the game. 

i mean the high ends are really for perfectionist gamers, the people who must have 400 million fps while playing doom 3, while having 3 1080s in sli with an 6800 k, but really all i gon do is u an amd 6 core processor, an radeon 480, and 16 gigs of ram, just to get high settings with no lag on tf2, gmod (skill surf, dark rp, etc.) and beam.ng

[EPPHO]

There are there for higher resolution users and those who have money to purchase them. Also some people like YouTube video makers or Streamers need good GPUs.  

[PCGuy_5960]

Yes, they are! Have you ever tried using a GTX 950 for 4K gaming? 

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yes, they are! Have you ever tried using a GTX 950 for 4K gaming? 

Additionally, I am on a GTX 950 myself... (YES, a 5820K with a GTX 950, I know, deal with it....) 

The experience at 1080p is OK, if you want to turn some settings down, in other words sacrifice visuals for framerates... 

 

A 1080 would be able to handle everything at max settings and get above 120fps (provided you have a CPU of the same caliber) 

[FPS-Russia]

My PC is mainly for work, but i have RX 480 Powercolor Red Devil for gaming at 1440P and has a nice Vram buffer for viewport in Maya.

[NumLock21]

High-end cards are worth it cause they will last longer down the line. Does that mean you have to spend the most expensive one? No. A GTX 1070 will last for quite some time. What causes the cards to have such a short life-span isn't the card itself, it's the users who owns it. Always wants the bleeding edge and must play games at max settings, then the card will not last long compare to a user who's willing to turn the setting down a notch to two.

 

 

 

[incarnate]

The 1070 is for ppl with 1440p monitor's and up, the 1080 for ultra wide 1440p and 4k.

 

The high end has its place. For those that don't want to drop quality settings at higher resolutions, or for those who have a 144hz monitor

[dfg666]

Yea there's a reason why some people have a GTX 1080 at 1080p. Because they have the money.

[typographie]

24 minutes ago, incarnate said:

The 1070 is for ppl with 1440p monitor's and up,

It seems like that now, sure. I have a feeling that within a year we'll be thinking of the GTX 1070 as more of a high-end 1080p card, as we did with past x70 cards. If you want to maintain a certain level of performance over two or three years of new and increasingly demanding games, you do have to buy something that seems like overkill initially.

 

Already I can basically max the GPU out at 1080p if I play the right games with the right settings. Rise of the Tomb Raider with 4x SSAA still averages 40 FPS or so. The Witcher 3 with full HairWorks sits around 65–70 FPS. I don't own Crysis 3, but I imagine there's some combination of settings there that can challenge a 1070 at 1080p. GTA V has all those Advanced Options that most people don't touch.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Because gaming at 100FPS with ULTRA settings and 4xMSAA at 2560x1440 on a 144hz Gsync monitor is the nirvana for someone who enjoy epic graphics.

 

Hit thumbs up if you' experienced this at least once in your life, or if you admit that it's very very cool.

[VagabondWraith]

43 minutes ago, dfg666 said:

Yea there's a reason why some people have a GTX 1080 at 1080p. Because they have the money.

Well that, plus I'm trying to push closest to 144fps at Ultra settings. But you need a good CPU and my 6700K keeps my GPU well fed at all times.

[MEC-777]

Depends on personal preference. It's worth it for some and not for others.

[jjohnthedon1]

51 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Because gaming at 100FPS with ULTRA settings and 4xMSAA at 2560x1440 on a 144hz Gsync monitor is the nirvana for someone who enjoy epic graphics.

 

Hit thumbs up if you' experienced this at least once in your life, or if you admit that it's very very cool.

But ur not doin that with one 980ti because sit around 80 to 90 I'm most games with those settings with 2 980tis ;p

[jjohnthedon1]

Also like to add I played the division last night at beyond ultra preset 

at 80 fps 1440p

switched to medium settings

litterly noticed no difference in image quality and had 170 fps 

I think ultra is a joke in all games no one needs more than high settings 

and medium is still perfectly acceptable 

I don't care who u are 

[BrightCandle]

I have a 1080 and it comes in handy for VR and 1440@165. I like high frame rates (ex pro gamer) and my ability in games is affected by the refresh rate so there is definitely benefit to getting as much performance as possible. For VR purposes you can never have enough power, games look vastly better with FSAA but its already nearing 4k levels of pixels due to the over rendering necessary for lense adjustment so getting FSAA in there as well requires a beastly card.

 

You don't buy a 1080 for 1080p@60 unless you have a particular game that really needs it.

[Evann]

Go buy a console, peasant! 

 

You're not worthy to join PC MustardRace!

[App4that]

2 hours ago, jjohnthedon1 said:

Also like to add I played the division last night at beyond ultra preset 

at 80 fps 1440p

switched to medium settings

litterly noticed no difference in image quality and had 170 fps 

I think ultra is a joke in all games no one needs more than high settings 

and medium is still perfectly acceptable 

I don't care who u are 

Nah, if you couldn't tell the difference then ether your monitor is shit or your glasses  

 

Shadow distance, ambient lighting effects, textures, and the like make a huge difference in a lot of games. For a FPS maybe you won't spend much time staring at clutter, but you said all games  

[porina]

19 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Yes, they are! Have you ever tried using a GTX 950 for 4K gaming? 

I used a GTX 960 as the only 4k output device I had at the time to test my 4k TV. It was the best looking slideshow I've ever seen! I got usable framerates at low settings, but of course you lose a lot of the detail by doing that and I'd rather have 1080 high/ultra than 4k low.

 

Later moving onto a 980Ti an 3440x1440 ultra wide, I can generally get decent framerates at ultra although I have to drop to high if I want a good chance to maintain 60fps minimum (my monitor doesn't have G-sync). I'm also considering getting an alternate monitor in addition to test out the high frame rate (144Hz+) experience and see if I'm missing on something.

 

Now with VR on the scene, I think if you want to go for the longer term it doesn't make sense to buy a minimum standard GPU today as it will likely require compromising on the experience sooner or later.

[FPS-Russia]

11 minutes ago, Evann said:

Go buy a console, peasant! 

 

You're not worthy to join PC MustardRace!

Yeah keyboard and mouse works on console /s

[App4that]

7 minutes ago, FPS-Russia said:

Yeah keyboard and mouse works on console /s

Define "works"

 

Then look up, input lag

 

i saw the /s

[FPS-Russia]

Just now, App4that said:

Define "works"

 

Then look up, input lag

 /s

[App4that]

Just now, FPS-Russia said:

 /s

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[DXMember]

well I got my setup just to play GTA V, I was planning for 290 Crossfire initially but got a single 290 and swapped for Furies when they came