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23 minutes ago, wcreek said:

Isn't that the same thing though? But I guess working 24/7 might not be bad if it was a job I liked.

 

cupcake/cake or pie? (I like cupcakes and cakes but pies are sometimes better, like French Silk or Chocolate Peanut Butter Cup Silk)

I prefer cupcake, red velvet or apple cinnamon is always a good choice.

 

Small displacement Turbo motor or big bore naturally aspirated? (i.e. 2litre 4cylinder turbo vs 6.2 litre v8)

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1 hour ago, BOT Edward said:

I prefer cupcake, red velvet or apple cinnamon is always a good choice.

 

Small displacement Turbo motor or big bore naturally aspirated? (i.e. 2litre 4cylinder turbo vs 6.2 litre v8)

Small turbo :P

 

Bacon or chicken?

 

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CHICKEN! Cause i don't like bacon :/

old, old, i mean really old, Pizza or a drove over opossum? (Is this right? i have really no idea :D )

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30 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

CHICKEN! Cause i don't like bacon :/

old, old, i mean really old, Pizza or a drove over opossum? (Is this right? i have really no idea :D )

WHAT! You don't like bacon? -_-

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32 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

CHICKEN! Cause i don't like bacon :/

old, old, i mean really old, Pizza or a drove over opossum? (Is this right? i have really no idea :D )

Old pizza. I probably wouldn't get diseases from that.

 

Pencils or pens?

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2 hours ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Old pizza. I probably wouldn't get diseases from that.

 

Pencils or pens?

pencils, not sure what the exact differance here but pens just sounds retarded tbh

 

1080p laptop or 4K laptop(sortof like the XPS 15 situation)

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

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#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

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1 minute ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

pencils, not sure what the exact differance here but pens just sounds retarded tbh

 

1080p laptop or 4K laptop(sortof like the XPS 15 situation)

1080p laptop cause 4K sucks the battery empty.

 

Table or desk for PC?

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Just now, TheLaserCucumber said:

1080p laptop cause 4K sucks the battery empty.

 

Table or desk for PC?

Desk.

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On 8/7/2016 at 4:51 PM, BingoFishy said:

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No arms or no legs?

 

I would rather have no legs because then I can still do things on my PC :)

 

Extremely erotic mouse mat OR extremely childish mouse mat?

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6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Desk.

please play the game right lol :P 

 

1 minute ago, Brennan_Price said:

I would rather have no legs because then I can still do things on my PC :)

 

Extremely erotic mouse mat OR extremely childish mouse mat?

erotic mousemat because i would probably ejouy that more tbh, not that i look at my mousemat often tho 

 

30C in your room or 17C in your room?

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

please play the game right lol :P 

 

erotic mousemat because i would probably ejouy that more tbh, not that i look at my mousemat often tho 

 

30C in your room or 17C in your room?

17C, cause my PC is cooler then ^^

 

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Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

please play the game right lol :P 

 

erotic mousemat because i would probably ejouy that more tbh, not that i look at my mousemat often tho 

 

30C in your room or 17C in your room?

 

17C in my room because my PC would soon heat it up.

 

WYR have video games reverted to the Atari age OR have cinema reverted to the silent era?

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Just now, Brennan_Price said:

17C in my room because my PC would soon heat it up.

 

WYR have video games reverted to the Atari age OR have cinema reverted to the silent era?

I was first :'(

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1 minute ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

17C, cause my PC is cooler then ^^

 

Pentium III machine for free or AMD FX machine for 50$ (withouth GPU)? (To the guys that are retro ^^)

Pentium III, already own an FX system.

Fury Nitro or its cost in Donuts?

I have a Fury Nitro and an FX 8320E. Screw my life?

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2 minutes ago, TheLaserCucumber said:

17C, cause my PC is cooler then ^^

 

Pentium III machine for free or AMD FX machine for 50$ (withouth GPU)? (To the guys that are retro ^^)

 
 
 

I would rather have the FX machine with no GPU because my first PC I bought for myself was £50 and it was terrible, an FX machine is far superior to it lol.

 

WYR have a terrible desk and a great gaming chair OR have a great desk and a terrible chair?

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Just now, Phoenix721 said:

Pentium III, already own an FX system.

Fury Nitro or its cost in Donuts?

Fury Nitro, i will almost always go for PC parts if i can lol

 

full size keyboard or tenkey less?

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Fury Nitro, i will almost always go for PC parts if i can lol

 

full size keyboard or tenkey less?

 

What kind of a question is this? You are effectively asking us to choose between a powerful PC and a low end PC. Of course I am gonna pick the full size keyboard.

 

WYR own a PC in an Xbox One case which thermal throttles a lot OR own an Xbox One in a PC case that has no throttling at all?

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2 hours ago, Brennan_Price said:

What kind of a question is this? You are effectively asking us to choose between a powerful PC and a low end PC. Of course I am gonna pick the full size keyboard.

 

WYR own a PC in an Xbox One case which thermal throttles a lot OR own an Xbox One in a PC case that has no throttling at all?

PC in Xbox case, i would rather have a full PC then a console lol

 

butterfly knife or flip knife?

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

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"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

PC in Xbox case, i would rather have a full PC then a console lol

 

butterfly knife or flip knife?

flip knife, personal choice for convenience really, nothing to do with CS:GO.

 

Z board or Boosted board?

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2 hours ago, Thorium19 said:

flip knife, personal choice for convenience really, nothing to do with CS:GO.

 

Z board or Boosted board?

boosted board because Zboard seems to be some werid ass keyboard lol, also that wasent really a CS:GO thing, i just really like butterfly knifes lol

 

have a cactus thrown at your face or hitting your face against a wall as hard as you can 5 times?

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

boosted board because Zboard seems to be some werid ass keyboard lol, also that wasent really a CS:GO thing, i just really like butterfly knifes lol

 

have a cactus thrown at your face or hitting your face against a wall as hard as you can 5 times?

http://www.zboardshop.com/ that's what the z board is, it's the one Linus reviewed but they've made it considerably better than that model.

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Netrunner (2020 build) - CPU: AMD R7 3700X GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 (from 2015 build) PSU: Corsair SF600 platinum RAM: 32GB Crucial Ballistix RGB 3600Mhz cl16 Motherboard: Gigabyte Aorus X570i pro wifi SSD: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1TB Case: Lian Li TU150W black Cooler: Be Quiet! Dark Rock Slim

 

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1 minute ago, Thorium19 said:

http://www.zboardshop.com/ that's what the z board is, it's the one Linus reviewed but they've made it considerably better than that model.

I'm not sure whether this thread went but I'll get it on track!

 

WRX or Lancer Evo?

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Just now, STRMfrmXMN said:

I'm not sure whether this thread went but I'll get it on track!

 

WRX or Lancer Evo?

the fuck is that.


Razer Or corsair

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1 minute ago, Yttrizy said:

the fuck is that.


Razer Or corsair

Eww razer, Corsair all day even though a lot of their stuff is cheap plastic, especially their cases. WRX and Evo are cars.

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Just now, Yttrizy said:

the fuck is that.


Razer Or corsair

they are cars, one is Subaru and one is Mistubishi

 

anyway corsair OFC, Razer is overpriced and mostly shit

 

VHS or Beta Max?

I spent $2500 on building my PC and all i do with it is play no games atm & watch anime at 1080p(finally) watch YT and write essays...  nothing, it just sits there collecting dust...

Builds:

The Toaster Project! Northern Bee!

 

The original LAN PC build log! (Old, dead and replaced by The Toaster Project & 5.0)

Spoiler

"Here is some advice that might have gotten lost somewhere along the way in your life. 

 

#1. Treat others as you would like to be treated.

#2. It's best to keep your mouth shut; and appear to be stupid, rather than open it and remove all doubt.

#3. There is nothing "wrong" with being wrong. Learning from a mistake can be more valuable than not making one in the first place.

 

Follow these simple rules in life, and I promise you, things magically get easier. " - MageTank 31-10-2016

 

 

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