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NVIDIA Announces GP102-based TITAN X with 3,584 CUDA cores

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Just now, Energycore said:

No, best ever includes the future :P

 

"Ever before" would be clearer by a long shot

 

Sure, but best ever can also mean best ever they know of.

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1 minute ago, Centurius said:

Sure, but best ever can also mean best ever they know of.

Hmm

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It's amazing how they make this claim, saying it "leaves the 10 series in the dust" without having any of the performance metrics. They assume "40% more cuda cores = much faster" and make bold statements without facts to back them up. Nvidia already came out and said the GTX Titan XP is "up to" 60% faster than the previous Titan X. The previous Titan X is only 20-30% slower than the GTX 1080. Transitive property dictates that the new Titan XP will only be 20-30% faster than the GTX 1080, using Nvidia's own information. 

 

Remember people. Core count does not scale linearly if clock speeds change. Something might have 40% more cores, but if there is even the slightest difference in clock speed, it will not automatically yield 40% more performance. 

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13 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

30% faster than the 1080 for almost 2x the price.. 

They said 60% though...

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5 minutes ago, MageTank said:

It's amazing how they make this claim, saying it "leaves the 10 series in the dust" without having any of the performance metrics. They assume "40% more cuda cores = much faster" and make bold statements without facts to back them up. Nvidia already came out and said the GTX Titan XP is "up to" 60% faster than the previous Titan X. The previous Titan X is only 20-30% slower than the GTX 1080. Transitive property dictates that the new Titan XP will only be 20-30% faster than the GTX 1080, using Nvidia's own information. 

 

Remember people. Core count does not scale linearly if clock speeds change. Something might have 40% more cores, but if there is even the slightest difference in clock speed, it will not automatically yield 40% more performance. 

Its not like its clocked that much lower. And given Maxwell and Pascal overclocking it will clock very similarly.

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1 hour ago, SamStrecker said:

They said 60% though...

60% faster than Titan X. So only 20-30% faster than 1080.

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3 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

They said 60% though...

They said up to 60% faster than the previous titan X 

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Its not like its clocked that much lower. And given Maxwell and Pascal overclocking it will clock very similarly.

You must remember, it uses the exact same cooling. It will be far more bound to heat given its less overall headroom due to the additional heat brought on by having those extra cores. What happens when you raise the TDP of a product, but use the exact same thermal solution? It runs hotter. The 1080 already runs hot on the stock blower cooler. The Titan class cards have always been reference only. No custom AiB versions. Granted, the general consumer can slap a waterblock on them and go nuts, but thats only adding more cost to the mix. 

 

If we take it at face value, and compare the reference cards against each other, I simply do not believe this Titan XP will overclock well at all. In fact, I bet the opposite. I bet keeping it running at its stock boost without thermal throttling will be a miracle in and of itself. This is coming from a man that exclusively uses blower cards due to ITX cases. 

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3 minutes ago, MageTank said:

You must remember, it uses the exact same cooling. It will be far more bound to heat given its less overall headroom due to the additional heat brought on by having those extra cores. What happens when you raise the TDP of a product, but use the exact same thermal solution? It runs hotter. The 1080 already runs hot on the stock blower cooler. The Titan class cards have always been reference only. No custom AiB versions. Granted, the general consumer can slap a waterblock on them and go nuts, but thats only adding more cost to the mix. 

 

If we take it at face value, and compare the reference cards against each other, I simply do not believe this Titan XP will overclock well at all. In fact, I bet the opposite. I bet keeping it running at its stock boost without thermal throttling will be a miracle in and of itself. This is coming from a man that exclusively uses blower cards due to ITX cases. 

Actually thats not true. The Titan XM actually had custom cards toward the end of its lifespan. And where did you see the 1080 runs hot? No it doesn't. Warmer than a custom card sure.

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6 minutes ago, MageTank said:

You must remember, it uses the exact same cooling. It will be far more bound to heat given its less overall headroom due to the additional heat brought on by having those extra cores. What happens when you raise the TDP of a product, but use the exact same thermal solution? It runs hotter. The 1080 already runs hot on the stock blower cooler. The Titan class cards have always been reference only. No custom AiB versions. Granted, the general consumer can slap a waterblock on them and go nuts, but thats only adding more cost to the mix. 

 

If we take it at face value, and compare the reference cards against each other, I simply do not believe this Titan XP will overclock well at all. In fact, I bet the opposite. I bet keeping it running at its stock boost without thermal throttling will be a miracle in and of itself. This is coming from a man that exclusively uses blower cards due to ITX cases. 

If we're lucky, EVGA will open up with an ACX 3.0 TitanXP.  If nVidia allow customs - they'll have a lot more adoption.  I'm still just going to wait for Volta, though, maybe get the Titan XP if an affordable 4K Oled appears in the next five months.

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Actually thats not true. The Titan XM actually had custom cards toward the end of its lifespan. And where did you see the 1080 runs hot? No it doesn't. Warmer than a custom card sure.

it hits the 82C "boost throttle" limit on stock fan curve. That's hot in my book. While a custom fan curve can fix this, it comes at an acoustical cost. That being said, the FE 1080's only hit those levels of heat after hitting 2000mhz OC's, so its perfectly acceptable. Again, this is a 180w package, using a 250w thermal solution. It has headroom to be overclocked. The Titan XP's will be extremely limited by the stock cooler (Similar to how previous Titan cards were). Do you have any links to an AiB Titan X that did not have reference cooling? I know custom coolers were sold separately that were compatible with the cards, but I never saw them sold as a single entity before. 

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23 minutes ago, Knaj said:

But can it max out 4k as a single card?

Fat chance.

 

But it will be the first card to be reasonable as a single card solution, just "high" and not "ultra" detail to get 60FPS. Still 4k high detail looks a lot better than ultra at even 1440p

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9 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

They said up to 60% faster than the previous titan X 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but cant the old Titan X keep up with a 1080, if we are talking overclocked/water cooled versions?

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Don't forget the 1080ti will come out in the future and it will run cooler, quieter and be faster when overclocked AIB designs are made for ~$900. I love how stupid the press is, did anyone see ars technicas headline "Nvidia unveils new GTX Titan X: 11 teraflops, 12GB GDDR5X, JUST $1,200

 

Looks like they just copied Nvidia's description of it and don't know what they are talking about like GDDR5X on a $1200 card is a good thing anyway.

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1 minute ago, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but cant the old Titan X keep up with a 1080, if we are talking overclocked/water cooled versions?

Watercooled without no bottlenecks,probably

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Just now, OddsCrazyStuff said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but cant the old Titan X keep up with a 1080, if we are talking overclocked/water cooled versions?

Are you asking if an overclocked Titan X (maxwell) can keep up with a stock 1080?

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1 minute ago, MageTank said:

it hits the 82C "boost throttle" limit on stock fan curve. That's hot in my book. While a custom fan curve can fix this, it comes at an acoustical cost. That being said, the FE 1080's only hit those levels of heat after hitting 2000mhz OC's, so its perfectly acceptable. Again, this is a 180w package, using a 250w thermal solution. It has headroom to be overclocked. The Titan XP's will be extremely limited by the stock cooler (Similar to how previous Titan cards were). Do you have any links to an AiB Titan X that did not have reference cooling? I know custom coolers were sold separately that were compatible with the cards, but I never saw them sold as a single entity before. 

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And I do believe the old titans overclocked pretty well on stock coolers that werent even as good as this one.

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1 minute ago, Hunter259 said:

 

I have to admit, I thought you were saying AiB had custom cards as in custom PCBs not just coolers.

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15 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

They said up to 60% faster than the previous titan X 

Yeah good ole marketing. #W84Vega #W84Volts

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4 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

Don't forget the 1080ti will come out in the future and it will run cooler, quieter and be faster when overclocked AIB designs are made for ~$900. I love how stupid the press is, did anyone see ars technicas headline "Nvidia unveils new GTX Titan X: 11 teraflops, 12GB GDDR5X, JUST $1,200

 

Looks like they just copied Nvidia's description of it and don't know what they are talking about like GDDR5X on a $1200 card is a good thing anyway.

 

I would definitely like to see a 10 series Ti, but I'm not sure that we'll be getting one this go around. 

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30 minutes ago, Knaj said:

But can it max out 4k as a single card?

Actually yes. The gtx titan x could do 4k high

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2 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

I stand corrected. It's odd though, as I have searched and could only find EVGA doing this, or "sold separately" shrouds/water blocks. I do wonder just how much extra this will add to the cards already expensive ($1200) price tag, and how much additional performance will be obtained from it. Guess we will know come August 2nd, when people inevitably slap water blocks on the Titan XP. 

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2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Are you asking if an overclocked Titan X (maxwell) can keep up with a stock 1080?

OC vs OC.

I at least cant find that test anywhere.

I speak my mind, sorry if thats a problem.

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Just now, done12many2 said:

 

I have to admit, I thought you were saying AiB had custom cards as in custom PCBs not just coolers.

Oh no. But they did have custom coolers. There was one picture of a Titan X Arctic Storm but that never happened.

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Just now, OddsCrazyStuff said:

OC vs OC.

I at least cant find that test anywhere.

 

Don't see that happening.  There's an exception to every rule, but definitely not the standard.

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