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6 minutes ago, QBtech said:

Trump will alienate every other country in the world. Leaving the US as a lonely island in the world with no one but enemies. A man who suggest war crimes as a way to deal with enemies (lets hit the muslim's families) should not be your president.

 

But then again I'm from Europe, willing to see the world burn.

To be honest, I care very little about the rest of the world. (and I honestly don't expect them to give a shit about the US.)

 

I feel sympathy for them, but I don't accept this globalist thing we currently have going on. Each nation needs to focus on being independent and self sufficient. It's the only way we'll ever get anywhere as a species.

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1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

I'm not completely informed about this but imo if trump becomes president, that would be terrible.

But if i read this, is it right to think how that a hilary presidency won't be much better compared to a trump presidency?

 

Again i'm not completely informed about the Hilary side (i know somewhat about trump) and this just made me wonder about it.

The Hillary presidency would basically just be Europe 2.0.  Trump would be better economically, and for freedom of Americans, but not for illegals and anyone from a country currently having constant terror troubles.

 

 

3 minutes ago, QBtech said:

Trump will alienate every other country in the world. Leaving the US as a lonely island in the world with no one but enemies. A man who suggest war crimes as a way to deal with enemies (lets hit the muslim's families) should not be your president.

 

But then again I'm from Europe, willing to see the world burn.

Trump is already wanting to work with Russia and Putin, UK will always be a tight ally, and our trade with Europe, if we lost it - would hurt Europe more than us, we can focus inward, and still work with countries around the world in trade and relations.  The Middle East, is where we should just stop entirely.  As for the war crimes - depends on the persons definition.  You use extreme measures to protect your own, and once someone, no matter the ideology - raises themselves up against you and your people, you do whatever you can to deter them.  Or use any method.  Like dipping bullets in pigsblood to deter Islamic insurgents back in the 50s.  

 

 

6 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I'd include "dump a shit load of money into NASA" in there somewhere.

 

China is looking at space for the long term, I guarantee this because that's how the Chinese think. They play the long game, not this short sighted bullshit that we call a government.

I'd say let's just leave NASA as it is, and give subsidies to companies who are looking in to space travel, like--massive tax cuts, and incentiviation for SpaceX, Blue Horizon, etc.  Let's make it where there're dozens of space companies competing for contracts to build lunar bases, Mars colonies, and harvesting Venus for--whatever Venus is useful for.  I don't know.  Gas and.. death.  Gassy death.  Taco Tuesday.

Also as a final note:  Japan.  They're great.

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10 minutes ago, AlexTheRose said:

This right here is a great example of a succeeding elite. Convincing people that their two puppets are the only options, why, the nerve of those people!

Short of mass anarchy, the puppets are the only option. No matter who you elect to an office, they're either an unstable, self driven, millionare OR the puppet of a party, are wealthy org, or a puppet of the people which is just as unstable and dangerous. Its either democracy or some other system of choice in which people will select the least evil or its appoinment in which the evil is given. I hate to break it to your counter-culture ideology but any large system of order and society will be bound in fails and limitations, until you show a million person successful anarchy its the only option. No man is purely good, no collective of man is any better. 

 

10 minutes ago, QBtech said:

But on the flipside..... would be nice if Europe was the dominant power in the world again xD

Yeah, you do such a bang up job...Ask greece, britan, spain, and italy how they feel.

5 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Fuck big companies that outsource. Fuck China.

How do you think other nations became developed or successful? few strive being interdependent. Just because the owners don't pander to those in america doesn't mean the job isn't helping someone. Chine seems to be doing well, don't think they really care what the floundering US thinks.

 

 

 

I would rather it be Hillary, I prefer the Bern, but thats unlikely. Trump won't be able to declare bankruptcy on the US as he does his casinos, he's so hypocritical it begs the questions if he actually understands his policies, and he's shifted so much and has so much dislike from his own party that the grid-lock of congress would only be perpetuated and likely any progress would be retroactive aside from some social matter. Hillary might be corrupt but so is donald and a large part of higher elected officials, at least she has success and experience and some static ideals.

  

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3 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

To be honest, I care very little about the rest of the world. (and I honestly don't expect them to give a shit about the US.)

 

I feel sympathy for them, but I don't accept this globalist thing we currently have going on. Each nation needs to focus on being independent and self sufficient. It's the only way we'll ever get anywhere as a species.

That's the same thought I have.  It doesn't matter about the rest of the world, or even the world economy.  What matters is our own people, our own interests.  If that's a bad thing - I guess I'm evil.

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25 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

She isn't careless with what she does, she's deliberately self serving and evil with what she does. If you look at the clinton foundation, and all that shit, you suddenly realize she kept a private email server so she could conduct shady ass deals (like taking money to approve the sale of a LARGE amount of our nuclear materials to russian corporations) and then destroy the evidence. She knew she'd get caught out on it, but she wagered that she could survive this scandal and prevent an ever bigger one.

Nope. She's innocent of all charges. It's just another right-wing conspiracy like Republicans pulling out random women to claim Bill Clinton raped them after he admitted a mutual affair with Monica Lewinsky. The right can't stand the fact the Clintons are saints in their old age and are still more politically savvy than any living Republican.

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2 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

To be honest, I care very little about the rest of the world.

 

I feel sympathy for them, but I don't accept this globalist thing we currently have going on. Each nation needs to focus on being independent and self sufficient. It's the only way we'll ever get anywhere as a species.

Lets be honest, Europe has developed at an accelerated rate after WW2 thanks to the European Customs Union. yeah we should have been more picky (Adding Greece etc was not that handy in hindsight) but overall globalization increase operations efficiency. anyone that ever looked at Economics will tell you the same.

 

Remember when the US was self sufficient? no you cant cuz it never was. International trade makes the world go round

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5 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

To be honest, I care very little about the rest of the world. (and I honestly don't expect them to give a shit about the US.)

 

I feel sympathy for them, but I don't accept this globalist thing we currently have going on. Each nation needs to focus on being independent and self sufficient. It's the only way we'll ever get anywhere as a species.

That only lasts until we become a multi-planet species. If we don't learn to cooperate and grow together with common ideals, we won't last as a species. The Earth will already be uninhabitable in 60 years thanks to pollution and rising waters, so it's not like we have a choice on the matter.

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3 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

The Hillary presidency would basically just be Europe 2.0.  Trump would be better economically, and for freedom of Americans, but not for illegals and anyone from a country currently having constant terror troubles.

 

 

Trump is already wanting to work with Russia and Putin, UK will always be a tight ally, and our trade with Europe, if we lost it - would hurt Europe more than us, we can focus inward, and still work with countries around the world in trade and relations.  The Middle East, is where we should just stop entirely.  As for the war crimes - depends on the persons definition.  You use extreme measures to protect your own, and once someone, no matter the ideology - raises themselves up against you and your people, you do whatever you can to deter them.  Or use any method.  Like dipping bullets in pigsblood to deter Islamic insurgents back in the 50s.  

 

 

I'd say let's just leave NASA as it is, and give subsidies to companies who are looking in to space travel, like--massive tax cuts, and incentiviation for SpaceX, Blue Horizon, etc.  Let's make it where there're dozens of space companies competing for contracts to build lunar bases, Mars colonies, and harvesting Venus for--whatever Venus is useful for.  I don't know.  Gas and.. death.  Gassy death.  Taco Tuesday.

Also as a final note:  Japan.  They're great.

I'd say no to that, because big corporations do have a history of being completely evil, and I'd rather not have to swear allegiance to Microsoft upon entering their space station or something.

 

2 minutes ago, RedWulf said:

Short of mass anarchy, the puppets are the only option. No matter who you elect to an office, they're either an unstable, self driven, millionare OR the puppet of a party, are wealthy org, or a puppet of the people which is just as unstable and dangerous. Its either democracy or some other system of choice in which people will select the least evil or its appoinment in which the evil is given. I hate to break it to your counter-culture ideology but any large system of order and society will be bound in fails and limitations, until you show a million person successful anarchy its the only option. No man is purely good, no collective of man is any better. 

 

Yeah, you do such a bang up job...Ask greece, britan, spain, and italy how they feel.

How do you think other nations became developed or successful? few strive being interdependent. Just because the owners don't pander to those in america doesn't mean the job isn't helping someone. Chine seems to be doing well, don't think they really care what the floundering US thinks.

 

 

 

I would rather it be Hillary, I prefer the Bern, but thats unlikely. Trump won't be able to declare bankruptcy on the US as he does his casinos, he's so hypocritical it begs the questions if he actually understands his policies, and he's shifted so much and has so much dislike from his own party that the grid-lock of congress would only be perpetuated and likely any progress would be retroactive aside from some social matter. Hillary might be corrupt but so is donald and a large part of higher elected officials, at least she has success and experience and some static ideals.

 

I don't care about other countries? Why? Because I'm not them. If you think they care about us, you're sorely mistaken.

 

China would be fine on it's own, as would we if we just had some people in charge that had the fucking balls to try it.

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The mods really need to locks this btw, this will never go anywhere good xD

 

 

2 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

That's the same thought I have.  It doesn't matter about the rest of the world, or even the world economy.  What matters is our own people, our own interests.  If that's a bad thing - I guess I'm evil.

Riiigghhttt...hate to tell you. if the world burns we go with it. Not only could the US not be self dependent but we are already embedded in trade, debt, and out sourcing. If you think the US could survive one month without other countries, I invite you to see how long a leaf lives once off the tree.  

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17 minutes ago, samcool55 said:

I'm not completely informed about this but imo if trump becomes president, that would be terrible.

But if i read this, is it right to think how that a hilary presidency won't be much better compared to a trump presidency?

 

Again i'm not completely informed about the Hilary side (i know somewhat about trump) and this just made me wonder about it.

The problem with a trump presidency (at least from where I'm watching), is that the direction the US needs to go in socially and politically to remain stable, is in direct opposition to the hundreds of movements and 'ism's that want a slice of the pie. It's not what the ism's are fighting for that's wrong, but the divide they have caused. People that are voting for trump want stability, while (it seems) that those voting for Hilary are looking to have the voice of their ism heard, acknowledged and made "equal." 

 

I dunno, I guess in my case its easy to have an opinion from the bleachers where this doesn't directly effect me... yet.

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Lets be honest, Europe has developed at an accelerated rate after WW2 thanks to the European Customs Union. yeah we should have been more picky (Adding Greece etc was not that handy in hindsight) but overall globalization increase operations efficiency. anyone that ever looked at Economics will tell you the same.

 

Remember when the US was self sufficient? no you cant cuz it never was. International trade makes the world go round

I also remember us paying a lot of money to rebuild Europe (after we bombed the ever loving shit out of it, we kinda had to).

 

Please bear in mind, I'm thinking that we should be working towards a future where the idea of economics is rendered nearly obsolete via technology. 3d printing and automation could very well provide such a future, if we work hard enough at it. Granted there will still be an economy for "illicit goods" and what not, that can't ever be gotten rid of but still.

 

We need to work towards self sufficiency and not needing the idea of "currency" anymore.

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5 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

As for the war crimes - depends on the persons definition.  You use extreme measures to protect your own, and once someone, no matter the ideology - raises themselves up against you and your people, you do whatever you can to deter them.

Here is where you are wrong. Targeting Civilians is ALWAYS a war crime. If it gets prosecuted however.... 

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11 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

To be honest, I care very little about the rest of the world. (and I honestly don't expect them to give a shit about the US.)

 

I feel sympathy for them, but I don't accept this globalist thing we currently have going on. Each nation needs to focus on being independent and self sufficient. It's the only way we'll ever get anywhere as a species.

How the hell do people like you exist?

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The sad thing about this is everyone knows how much of a wounded candidate Hillary is.  Anyone of the 17 GOP candidates would mop the floor with her, except one.  It is the same one that made it through the primaries.  Trump.

 

People see her for the last 30 years and understand how corrupt she is and understand that she will say/do anything to get elected.  People distrust Trump because they think he is a moron.  They distrust Hillary because they know she isn't a moron but has purposely done dishonest things.

 

I get that people don't want Trump as a President, but what kills me is how the people who support Hillary are so quick to simply dismiss all the corrupt shit she has done over the years as "well that is politics" or "it isn't worse than any other candidate."  That is bullshit.  No other candidate and no other person could get away with the shit she and her husband has done over the years and still be standing (or not in jail).  She is a powerful person with powerful friends and she has called in all her markers to get off from the FBI without charges. 

 

I don't want to see Trump as President, but if I had to pick between the two, then there is zero chance I would ever vote Hillary Clinton.  Both candidates may lie, Trump does it to boost his ego and make him look better, while Hillary does it to hide the illegal shit she has been doing.  There was only one reason to put a server in her basement and it was because she didn't want the American people to know her business and in the end, they didn't.  She handed over the things she wanted and destroyed the other stuff.  I mean who gets away with destroying Federal records?  Only she can apparently.

 

To those voting, I hope you won't give her a vote.  She doesn't deserve it. She does deserve a prison sentence. 

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Here is where you are wrong. Targeting Civilians is ALWAYS a war crime. If it gets prosecuted however.... 

Art of war my friend, art of war.

 

The population of an enemy country, must be considered enemies themselves. Hate to break it to you, but this whole idea of a "moral war" or fighting wars in a way that's "honorable" doesn't work. It hasn't worked since we started trying it in Korea. It's why we lost there, and vietnam, and now in the middle east.

 

You can't fight an enemy that kills anyone and everyone including themselves, via a police action. You do it by bombing their cities into the ground until they're either dead or they surrender. It's a war of annihilation. Diplomacy and policing just don't work.

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4 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I also remember us paying a lot of money to rebuild Europe

Loans repaid in full including interest. But so did Canada...

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2 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

I don't care about other countries? Why? Because I'm not them. If you think they care about us, you're sorely mistaken.

 

China would be fine on it's own, as would we if we just had some people in charge that had the fucking balls to try it.

They dislike us, but they certainly have more attention on foreign policy and more lax beliefs on trade and international business than you. This kind of nationalism is what causes isolation and the headstrong sense of superiority that continues the reputation of Americans as selfish and the blind drive to self destruction. 

 

Check on the brexit attempt on independence...

The US cant survive with the help of other countries, let alone without. Not to mention the fact that the USs foundation can from foreign alignments and business. 

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How the hell do people like you exist?

I don't know. Maybe tired of seeing our country suffer to the benefit of others? It's called self-interest and it's natural? If you honestly think that the Chinese populace give a shit about what goes on in the rest of the world, you're mistaken. They care about their own lives. As well they should.

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17 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

Really, all we need is to just impose those tariffs.  Flat tax down to 10% for all classes, and then impose a consumption tax.  Legalize marijuana, and just tax the marijuana consumption, alcohol, cigarettes, etc.  Kill the social programs, let the states decide their own, cut 80% of the Federal departments, given every state has their own EPA, Education, Motor, etc.  And now people have some insane economic freedom.

I'm sure Herbert Hoover agreed with you... 

 

Anyways, this email scandal is no more or less bad then the shit Scott Walker was running and he is also running free under the exact same type of restraint (on a state level).

 

It's hilarious he has the hypocrisy to call HRC out on it.

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How the hell do people like you exist?

The GOP bottle feeds them without telling them where the bottle came from 

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Loans repaid in full including interest. But so did Canada...

Oh I wasn't saying you owed us. We kinda owed it to you after destroying so many cities and what not.

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I'm sure Herbert Hoover agreed with you... 

 

Anyways, this email scandal is no more or less bad then the shit Scott Walker was running and he is also running free under the exact same type of restraint (on a state level).

 

It's hilarious he has the hypocrisy to call HRC out on it.

I still think of a vacuum whenever I read that name.

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I would rather have a smart liar than a moron as president. 

 

Also for better or worse, this is no different than what Scott Walker did to GET ELECTED to WI governor in the first place and he is still walking free.

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2 minutes ago, Trik'Stari said:

Art of war my friend, art of war.

 

The population of an enemy country, must be considered enemies themselves. Hate to break it to you, but this whole idea of a "moral war" or fighting wars in a way that's "honorable" doesn't work. It hasn't worked since we started trying it in Korea. It's why we lost there, and vietnam, and now in the middle east.

 

You can't fight an enemy that kills anyone and everyone including themselves, via a police action. You do it by bombing their cities into the ground until they're either dead or they surrender. It's a war of annihilation. Diplomacy and policing just don't work.

You're not fighting a nation, you're fighting an ideology. An ideology born out of the US bombing/invading the middle east for no good reason. 

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