Do i need an i7?

[Chewique]

So, im building a gaming PC and im trying to decide between an i7 and an i5. I could will get a 16gb kit of ram for either one. I will be using it for very light streaming so im not sure if i need an i7... Any ideas?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Chewique said:

So, im building a gaming PC and im trying to decide between an i7 and an i5. I could will get a 16gb kit of ram for either one. I will be using it for very light streaming so im not sure if i need an i7... Any ideas?

Probably worth it if you plan to do streaming, but what's your budget? and what were you going to build?

[Moonzy]

if you can afford the i7 comfortably, why not

[Chewique]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Probably worth it if you plan to do streaming, but what's your budget? and what were you going to build?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bqgKP6 that with either an i7 or i5

[ThinkWithPortals]

Just now, Chewique said:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bqgKP6 that with either an i7 or i5

Are you going to be editing, rendering, 3D modelling or streaming?

Yes, get the i7.

No, get the i5.

[Chewique]

Just now, ThinkWithPortals said:

Are you going to be editing, rendering, 3D modelling or streaming?

Yes, get the i7.

No, get the i5.

I may do very light streaming and rendering

[mikat]

depends on the graphics card, resolution and your game (GTA V is also heavy on your cpu, so streaming GTA V will require an i7 with an 970 or above, 960 and under should do fine with an i5)

[Chewique]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Probably worth it if you plan to do streaming, but what's your budget? and what were you going to build?

Do you think that i need 16gb of ram or nah?

[HrutkayMods]

But if you want to save some money a nice i5 might suffice, in fact a 6600K would work nicely in that build... although i7s are nice, i've had a lot of them lol

[Stardar1]

1 minute ago, Chewique said:

Do you think that i need 16gb of ram or nah?

it is so cheap it is hard to justify not getting 16GB. 

 

and it is legitimately useful. 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Chewique said:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/bqgKP6 that with either an i7 or i5

The K part isn't going to be worth it, and the 390 is going to be faster than the 970

 

here, similar CPU performance, more GPU performance at 200 less

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£248.94 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£60.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£51.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£249.95 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£36.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £809.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 17:37 BST+0100

[Castdeath97]

While doing light streaming, I guess going with the i5 6600k and a better graphic card might be wise.

[HrutkayMods]

3 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Do you think that i need 16gb of ram or nah?

more games are requiring more ram, i never build anything with less than 16GB these days, it'll be a bit of padding and futureproofing

[Chewique]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

The K part isn't going to be worth it, and the 390 is going to be faster than the 970

 

here, similar CPU performance, more GPU performance at 200 less

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£248.94 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£60.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£51.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£249.95 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£36.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £809.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 17:37 BST+0100

Why isnt it worth?

[HrutkayMods]

1 minute ago, Chewique said:

Why isnt it worth?

K is only worth it if you are going to do massive overclocking on it, but how it sounds you don't need K

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Why isnt it worth?

Because the i7 6700 already turbos to 4ghz, and you'd be then spending hundreds of dollars potentially for maybe 10% more performance after you OC.

Which would get you a better GPU, or better yet save that money for the new GPUs in a few months, or buy a better display

[KSores]

This build is very similar to mine.

I record a few videos a week.

If you just stream a little I'd go for the i5 6500 or 6600k and get a better gpu (that's the one thing I wish my pc had)

But if u plan to stream a few times a week get the i7

[ThinkWithPortals]

8 minutes ago, Chewique said:

I may do very light streaming and rendering

Then get the i5.

Also, I'd recommend getting the 16GB of RAM. RAM is so cheap that there's really no reason not to unless your budget's super tight.

[mikat]

10 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Do you think that i need 16gb of ram or nah?

get i5+16 gb of ram, i5->i7 is +94 pounds, 8gb->16gb is +26 pounds

only get the i7 if you really want that extra performance for future GPU upgrades, i hate to use the word "future-proofing", but it's better to spend 94 pounds now than to upgrade for much more later down the road

[HrutkayMods]

2 minutes ago, KSores said:

This build is very similar to mine.

I record a few videos a week.

If you just stream a little I'd go for the i5 6500 or 6600k and get a better gpu (that's the one thing I wish my pc had)

But if u plan to stream a few times a week get the i7

 

1 minute ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Then get the i5.

Also, I'd recommend getting the 16GB of RAM. RAM is so cheap that there's really no reason not to unless your budget's super tight.

I second and third these

[Snooli]

Guys, it's 2016. We don't use CPUs for streaming anymore. All GPUs now have an integrated h.264 (de)coder in them. You can use QuickSync with Intel graphics (in all 115x CPUs), NVenc with nVidia cards and AMD VCE for Radeon Cards. All of these are supported by OBS.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Snooli said:

 

OBS gives you better quality footage and way more control over your stream at the cost of needing a stronger CPU, which is worth it if you can afford the better CPU, which he can easily get an i7 6700, or even a Xeon 1231v3, though at this point I'd say it's worth it to go for skylake

[Snooli]

Just now, Streetguru said:

OBS gives you better quality footage and way more control over your stream at the cost of needing a stronger CPU, which is worth it if you can afford the better CPU, which he can easily get an i7 6700, or even a Xeon 1231v3, though at this point I'd say it's worth it to go for skylake

Better quality compared to? I think somebody actually did a comparison betweein x264, VCE, QS and NVenc. x264 won in quality, but taxed the performance too much (how unexpected), all others ended up same in performance loss, but NVenc had really bad quality.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Snooli said:

Better quality compared to? I think somebody actually did a comparison betweein x264, VCE, QS and NVenc. x264 won in quality, but taxed the performance too much (how unexpected), all others ended up same in performance loss, but NVenc had really bad quality.

compared to shadowplay or AMD's thing

Haven't' seen anyone do a recent comparison though

[Chewique]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

compared to shadowplay or AMD's thing

Haven't' seen anyone do a recent comparison though

I have just been watching some videos on the 970 vs 390 in some games and it seems the 390 gets a lot of frame drops. Also when the 970 is overclocked the 970 seems to be winning as well... Why?