Do i need an i7?

[Snooli]

Just now, Streetguru said:

compared to shadowplay or AMD's thing

Haven't' seen anyone do a recent comparison though

Since OBS supports all 3 gpu encoders, the playing field has shifted. A lot.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Chewique said:

I have just been watching some videos on the 970 vs 390 in some games and it seems the 390 gets a lot of frame drops. Also when the 970 is overclocked the 970 seems to be winning as well... Why?

Well which video?

 

390, more wins at 1440p + though

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sapphire-nitro-r9-390-8g-d5,4245.html

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-radeon-r9-390-8gb-review
 

 

 

[Chewique]

I dont play 1440p ;P I cant afford a monitor Wait, could you build me a very powerful build for £950 but i can go over!

[Snooli]

Should we remind the true DX12 benchmarks to all who doubt the R9 390?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Chewique said:

I dont play 1440p ;P

1080p 60hz? because then you don't even really need a high end GPU lol, but still I'd stick to the 390 for the DX12 support, in the newest hitman game it put it on par with a 980ti under DX12.

[Chewique]

Just now, Streetguru said:

1080p 60hz? because then you don't even really need a high end GPU lol, but still I'd stick to the 390 for the DX12 support, in the newest hitman game it put it on par with a 980ti under DX12.

Can you make me a decent build then? I play minecraft just cause 3 gta and rocket league. Thanks

[Snooli]

Just now, Chewique said:

Can you make me a decent build then? I play minecraft just cause 3 gta and rocket league. Thanks

Including monitor/accesories?

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Can you make me a decent build then? I play minecraft just cause 3 gta and rocket league. Thanks

I already posted it, was 200 pounds less with comparable CPU performance and more GPU performance, so upgrade your display to 1440p with the money saved lol, or if you're playing rocket league buy a 1080p 144hz free-sync display, it would be TN though, but better for esports type games due to the extra frames you see

 

189 pounds for a 1080p 144hz TN free-sync display

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£248.94 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£60.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£51.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£249.95 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£36.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £809.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 17:37 BST+0100

[Chewique]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I already posted it, was 200 pounds less with comparable CPU performance and more GPU performance, so upgrade your display to 1440p with the money saved lol, or if you're playing rocket league buy a 1080p 144hz free-sync display, it would be TN though, but better for esports type games due to the extra frames you see

 

189 pounds for a 1080p 144hz TN free-sync display

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/aoc-monitor-g2460pf

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/2qPZnQ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£248.94 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B150M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£60.99 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£51.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£47.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£39.90 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  (£249.95 @ More Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£36.99 @ Ebuyer)
Power Supply: SeaSonic EVO Edition 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£73.17 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £809.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 17:37 BST+0100

Coolio! Wait, i could get a 380x and then when the new polaris cards come out for good i could buy one! would that be good?

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Coolio! Wait, i could get a 380x and then when the new polaris cards come out for good i could buy one! would that be good?

Only if you upgrade your display before hand, as a 380/X is fine for 1080p 60hz gaming.

 

also the 380X is only worth it if it's only maybe 10-15% more than the 380 4GB

[Chewique]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Only if you upgrade your display before hand, as a 380/X is fine for 1080p 60hz gaming.

 

also the 380X is only worth it if it's only maybe 10-15% more than the 380 4GB

So i should go with the build you just sent me?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Chewique said:

So i should go with the build you just sent me?

It's just about what I'd get, although I'd maybe go for the 380 4GB and go for a 1440p 144hz display, but depends if you want the extra pixels, it costs 399 pounds, so almost double the price of the 1080p 144hz display

also be sure the check the free-sync range on it.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-mg278q

 

course I recently got an 8300, but that's just because I'm crazy.

[Chewique]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Only if you upgrade your display before hand, as a 380/X is fine for 1080p 60hz gaming.

 

also the 380X is only worth it if it's only maybe 10-15% more than the 380 4GB

Yeah i will get a new monitor. But im not sure what monitor to get as im not sure if i will end up with a NVDia card or a AMD card in the end..

[Snooli]

lol, I am trying to fit a 980ti into that budget

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Chewique said:

Yeah i will get a new monitor. But im not sure what monitor to get as im not sure if i will end up with a NVDia card or a AMD card in the end..

Given maxwell's lack of performance gain in DX12 and additional display cost, being a minimum of $100 more for G-sync, it's not that hard a choice overall, especially in the mid range where AMD GPUs get you more performance on average now.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Snooli said:

lol, I am trying to fit a 980ti into that budget

Aside from fun, you'd need like an i3, and it would be a complete waste on a 1080p 60hz display

[Chewique]

11 minutes ago, Snooli said:

lol, I am trying to fit a 980ti into that budget

I have done that before, want the list?

[Snooli]

18 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Aside from fun, you'd need like an i3, and it would be a complete waste on a 1080p 60hz display

 

8 minutes ago, Chewique said:

I have done that before, want the list?

I am talking seriously here. No Pentium nonsense.

[Aditya0002]

1 hour ago, Chewique said:

I may do very light streaming and rendering

Why not go for a xeon it has power a i7 but locked , and in price of a i5

 

[Snooli]

If you don't mind a cardboard case and £3 over budget, this is the best you cand do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (£150.17 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.98 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£89.02 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£53.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£34.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Toshiba  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.70 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£518.27 @ More Computers)
Power Supply: XFX XT 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£42.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £953.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 18:58 BST+0100

I'd recommend getting a cheap case somewhere somehow and overclocking the i5 to 4.7GHz on that board. Might need a BIOS downgrade though.

[Snooli]

Just now, Aditya0002 said:

Why not go for a xeon it has power a i7 but locked , and in price of a i5

 

They also don't have integrated video cards, which are requiered for QuickSync. Howerer, if it were a Radeon build, it would be a great option for Haswell, as AMD's VCE is outputting high quality too.

[Aditya0002]

2 minutes ago, Snooli said:

If you don't mind a cardboard case and £3 over budget, this is the best you cand do:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor  (£150.17 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! PURE ROCK 51.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  (£25.98 @ Novatech)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£89.02 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£53.99 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (£34.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Toshiba  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£37.70 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB WINDFORCE 3X Video Card  (£518.27 @ More Computers)
Power Supply: XFX XT 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (£42.98 @ Novatech)
Total: £953.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-26 18:58 BST+0100

I'd recommend getting a cheap case somewhere somehow and overclocking the i5 to 4.7GHz on that board. Might need a BIOS downgrade though.

Overclocking locked CPU on z170 mobo , hmm

[Snooli]

Just now, Aditya0002 said:

Overclocking locked CPU on z170 mobo , hmm

Intel doesn't like it, but it still works on older BIOSes. Asrock calls it SkyOC.

Skylake has separated PCIe and BCLK clocks, however, they run synced by default. Z170 chipset has 2 clock generators, therefor you can use one for PCIe and the other for BCLK OC of CPUs. (originaly intended only for K CPUs) This was found out and abused by some manufacturers to get BCLK overclocking on nonK CPUs. Some also included external generators on nonZ boards, to allow for the same feature.

[Aditya0002]

2 minutes ago, Snooli said:

They also don't have integrated video cards, which are requiered for QuickSync. Howerer, if it were a Radeon build, it would be a great option for Haswell, as AMD's VCE is outputting high quality too.

U mean IGPU , Xeon e3 1246 v3 is CPU  with IGPU p4600 and there are many skylake architecture based xeons having hdp530  IGPU 

[Streetguru]

11 minutes ago, Snooli said:

 

You aren't going to want an XFX XT PSU, they're petty low quality, they aren't a seasonic rebrand

 

also would be pointless with a 1080p 60hz display