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Paragon_X
By Paragon_X
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6 hours ago, Starelementpoke said:

Wait, the 970 used to cost $700?

No it was around $400-$500 when it first came out now it is dirt cheaper

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18 minutes ago, zMeul said:

why is it so hard to believe? if you do a node shrink from 28nm to 16nm you have (theoretically) , for the same surface area, double the number of transistors

and not even counting the architectural differences 

In the past the improvement has never been anywhere near 2x, even with the die shrink from fermi to kepler.  Plus is just doesn't make sense from a marketing point of view.  When have we ever got a 2x boost?  If any company ever achieved that much improvement (and like I said I don't think they ever have in one product iteration), they would likely "spread out" the improvement over cost, efficiency, and performance, etc. anyway.

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3 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

In the past the improvement has never been anywhere near 2x, even with the die shrink from fermi to kepler 

the node shrink from Fermi to Kepler wasn't exactly 2x - more like 1.4x

and you need to consider the architectural changes - Kepler had FP64 units, Fermi didn't .. if I recall

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3 minutes ago, zMeul said:

the node shrink from Fermi to Kepler wasn't exactly 2x - more like 1.4x

and you need to consider the architectural changes - Kepler had FP64 units, Fermi didn't .. if I recall

Still, even if they could, I would be surprised if nvidia, amd, intel, or anyone would make a product twice as powerful as the previous one when the trend has been to increase a lot more ... consistently ... than that.

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9 minutes ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

In the past the improvement has never been anywhere near 2x, even with the die shrink from fermi to kepler.  Plus is just doesn't make sense from a marketing point of view.  When have we ever got a 2x boost?  If any company ever achieved that much improvement (and like I said I don't think they ever have in one product iteration), they would likely "spread out" the improvement over cost, efficiency, and performance, etc. anyway.

Full Fermi was GTX 580, full Kepler was GTX 780 Ti. It wasn't a 100% improvement, but it wasn't all that far off (it gave an 82% improvement at 1080p).

 

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Full midrange was GTX 560 Ti in Fermi, GTX 680 in Kepler, and the difference was 69% at 1200p in the techpowerup testsuite.

 

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11 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

Full Fermi was GTX 580, full Kepler was GTX 780 Ti. It wasn't a 100% improvement, but it wasn't all that far off (it gave an 82% improvement at 1080p).

 

That's odd considering the 3D mark charts posted by nvidia show a much smaller gain.  Would they really marginalize their own improvement?  Seems to me like they'd want to do the opposite.

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I very much doubt the 1080 will be significantly faster than the 980Ti. Faster no doubt, but not on the extreme end as someone would like to believe. Several reasons.

 

1. The transistor is indeed smaller, but so is the die size. The amount of transistors won't increase by an extreme amount. However, if the 1080 has a 256 bit memory buss the memory controllers on the die should take up less space compared to the 980Ti 384 bit buss.

 

2. Even if it has GDDR5X memory, it won't be significantly faster than the 980Ti memory. Assuming they can clock it to 2500-3000MHZ, it will perform at 320GB/s to 384GB/s. Which is about as fast as the 980Ti 3 500 to 4000MHZ, which translates to 336GB/s to 384GB/s. GDDR5X may have quad data rate, but the initial target is 10-12gbps (2.5-3GHZ). Lucky you if your memory clocks higher, but 25-50% bandwidth per memory lane is gonna be the norm, at least for the earliest GDDR5X memory. The potential is in the area of 3.5 to 4GHZ.

 

The biggest gain will be cost to performance, and power consumption to performance. The enthusiasts with a thousand dollars to spend will have to wait for at least two more years if they want an extreme increase over the current 980Ti.

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15 hours ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Hype hype hype!

 

Though it's the 1070 I'm really interested in. I've got my eye on one of those, but if it's significantly more expensive than a 970 I'll go with that instead.

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If these are the PCB's for the gtx1080 why are they labelled "MSI GTX980 GAMING PCB" and "NVIDIA GTX980 REFRERENCE PCB"?

 

*I don't have time to read through everything I had to skim, so go easy if I missed something :)

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2 hours ago, kcaBsIsuxeN said:

If these are the PCB's for the gtx1080 why are they labelled "MSI GTX980 GAMING PCB" and "NVIDIA GTX980 REFRERENCE PCB"?

 

*I don't have time to read through everything I had to skim, so go easy if I missed something :)

My understanding is they took a picture of a 980 board and edited one to look like what they thing the 1080 board will look like.

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22 minutes ago, JoeyDM said:

The 970? Where? In the U.S.? It launched at $330 in the U.S.

 

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He is referring to Canada, where even basic groceries are more expensive than they are in Manhattan.

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3 hours ago, kcaBsIsuxeN said:

If these are the PCB's for the gtx1080 why are they labelled "MSI GTX980 GAMING PCB" and "NVIDIA GTX980 REFRERENCE PCB"?

 

*I don't have time to read through everything I had to skim, so go easy if I missed something :)

Only the area depicted with the yellow square was leaked. Videocardz deduced it was not a Nvidia reference board by superimposing it on a 980 Gaming card from MSI. It's all explained here.

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1 hour ago, Colonel_Gerdauf said:

He is referring to Canada, where even basic groceries are more expensive than they are in Manhattan.

So is our parking... at least in my city :D 

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18 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

No it was around $400-$500 when it first came out now it is dirt cheaper

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/7 MSRP was $330 when it launched, 980 was $550, reference boards were slightly more expensive or a lot more depending on its class. 

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1 hour ago, afyeung said:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-review/7 MSRP was $330 when it launched, 980 was $550, reference boards were slightly more expensive or a lot more depending on its class. 

In the US. In Canada it was $400+.

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4 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

In the US. In Canada it was $400+.

The comment was indicating US prices because the 780Ti was $700 USD when it launched. 

Current PC: Origin Millennium- i7 5820K @4.0GHz | GTX 980Ti SLI | X99 Deluxe 

 

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