New Lytro Cinema 755MP Light Field Camera " The Green Screen Killer"

[TheLarry]

Lytro Cinema is basically a camera that allows more post-production editing by capturing the scene in layers based on the distance of the camera. This allows the user to delete for example a background without touching what ever is in front of the background closer to the camera. This effectively eliminates the need for a greenscreen.

 

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"Lytro Cinema is the highest resolution video sensor ever designed." - Brendan Bevensee, Lead Engineer for Light Field Video

 

The way the camera works is that it creates a 3D space of the recorded area, and that also allows movement of the camera after it was shot increasing the stabilzation opportunities as post-processing effects. The camera also focuses on all depth surfaces, allowing the user to choose the focus point after shooting to create the depth of field effect digitally, or just to leave everything in the shot focused. Camera also allows you to change the framerate of an individual asset in the scene.

 

The CEO of Lytro, Jason Rosenthal, has confirmed in a recent blogpost that Lytro will be moving away from the consumer grade cameras, and focusing on VR and more professional part of the field. Reasoning behind this is the lowered interest in consumer grade cameras with the widespread of phones and their cameras and the better opportunities in the professional field.

 

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"With Depth Screen, it's as if you have a green screen for every object." - Jon Karafin, Head of Light Field Video

 

 

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"Essentially we have a virtual camera that can be controlled in post-production." - Brendan Bevensee, Lead Engineer for Light Field Video

 

 

Lytro Cinema prototype shown at NAB 2016

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Links to soruces/articles:

Lytro Cinema

Lytro Blog

TechCruch

DPreview Article 11th of April

DPreview Article 20th of April (NAB 2016)

PetaPixel

 

Camera known specifications:

755 RAW Megapixels

Up to 300 fps (I presume by lowering the quality)

Claimed to have a 40K resolution and 400GB write per second

Up to 16 stops of Dynamic Range

Intergrated High Res Active Scanning Systems

 

My thoughts:

I personally think that Lytro is onto something here. If this model isn't what sets the standard for big movie studios, the one that does set the standard will certainly be using this techonoly. At least we're headed in a new and interesting direction, and I myself am really interested to see where this direction leads.

[Dredgy]

While awesome, the technology is a decade or more away from prime time. Once you can buy memory cards by the petabyte  

But as soon as this tech is available for $20k or so, I will be picking it up. 

 Absolutely genius, revolutionary technology. It allows refocusing after post, as well as exposure and everything else.

 

 

[Ivyk]

It looks like a rail gun

[TheLarry]

7 minutes ago, Dredgy said:

Absolutely genius, revolutionary technology. It allows refocusing after post, as well as exposure and everything else.

Yes, it really seems like the only thing you'll be setting in stone when you shoot is the vague direction you're shooting in  Well not quite, still couple other things you need to take into account, but maybe in the future  

 

Them making the development open source would be amazing for the movie camera industry and really speed up the development  But that's just wishful thinking 

[Dredgy]

1 minute ago, TheLarry said:

Yes, it really seems like the only thing you'll be setting in stone when you shoot is the vague direction you're shooting from  Well not quite, still couple other things you need to take into account, but maybe in the future  

 

Them making the development open source would be amazing for the movie camera industry and really speed up the development  But that's just wishful thinking 

Yea, from what I can tell, even frame rate is completely arbitrary. If I had the patent on this, no way in hell would I make it open source  So long as they're actually able to bring it to production.

[TheLarry]

1 minute ago, Dredgy said:

If I had the patent on this, no way in hell would I make it open source  So long as they're actually able to bring it to production.

Yeah same here 

 

Could be possible that they would sell the patent to some big camera maker like Canon, but I think that Lytro might be a bit too big to throw away the patent for money. They're not some small development company trying to come up with an idea to sell, at least I don't think so, and if they were, they're probably a little past that.

 

You know about the Illum consumer camera they made before this?

[themctipers]

It's so large

 

how much storage will it take for an image? I'll be waiting until it hits the iPhone 62se plus edge™

[ShadowCaptain]

yeah its pretty insane but expect no adoption and major issues like Lytros previous cameras

its WAY ahead of its time, but a fantastic glimpse into the future of camera tech

[TheLarry]

24 minutes ago, themctipers said:

It's so large

 

how much storage will it take for an image? I'll be waiting until it hits the iPhone 62se plus edge™

It's for movie studios and stuff like that.

 

Here's an example of the size of the cameras on a high budjet TV talkshow. The cameras tend to be pretty big, I don't think the size of the camera is an issue in a studio environment, especially when using this you free up a lot of space because of the lack of greenscreen and backgrounds like that. Usually the studios are really roomy too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And what comes to the 300GB/s that's just the very maximum if you record like 40K footage in 60FPS or what ever the highest settings are. Also storage sounds expensive to an individual consumer, the price of storage isn't that much for a big studio.  But yes it's going to take at least couple years for minimum untill we see this camra techonolgy using it's potential. (They've also talked about cloud based storage tied with this.)

[VerticalDiscussions]

1 hour ago, TheLarry said:

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40K FRIGGIN RESOLUTION AND 300GB OF WRITE SPEEDS PER SECOND? And some fools claim that technology isnt moving fast enough. Its theyr brains that arent adopting fast enough lol -.-. 

 

P.S: Let me guess, you meant 4K and not 40K? x-x

[DuckDodgers]

Lightfield technology was primed to phase out the green-screen composition, since the major feature of this type of cameras is the ability to capture and reconstruct the precise depth information from the image. Then it's only a matter of simple coding in the post-production to tell the video processing application where is deeper or closer from the camera position and render anything in between.

The thing won't be cheap, though. Managing the gigantic data streams will keep this technology exclusive to the multi-million productions for the time being. Also, a whole new tool chain have to be developed for this kind of post-processing.

[TheLarry]

1 minute ago, VerticalDiscussions said:

40K FRIGGIN RESOLUTION AND 300GB OF WRITE SPEEDS PER SECOND? And some fools claim that technology isnt moving fast enough. Its theyr brains that arent adopting fast enough lol -.-. 

 

P.S: Let me guess, you meant 4K and not 40K? x-x

Check these quotes and then guess again 

 

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"Lytro Cinema is the highest resolution video sensor ever designed." - Brendan Bevensee, Lead Engineer for Light Field Video

 

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"The Lytro Cinema camera gathers a truly staggering amount of information on the world around it. The 755 RAW megapixel 40K resolution, 300 FPS camera takes in as much as 400 gigabytes per second of data." - TechCruch Article

 

[VerticalDiscussions]

Just now, TheLarry said:

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WOOHOO, when can i buy my exclusive model of this camera? Will it cost as much as the island that im living at right now?

[TheLarry]

1 minute ago, DuckDodgers said:

Lightfield technology was primed to phase out the green-screen composition, since the major feature of this type of cameras is the ability to capture and reconstruct the precise depth information from the image. It won't be cheap, though. Managing the gigantic data streams will keep this technology exclusive to the multi-million productions for the time being. 

Very correct 

[DuckDodgers]

By the way, the size and complexity of this lightfield camera resembles another cinematic invention half a century ago -- the Three Strip Technicolor camera: 

 

[Guest]

400GB per a second of video?

Nevermind storage, how much RAM does the workstation editing it needs to have then?

[DuckDodgers]

Latest Xeons can support up to 1536 GB of buffered ECC DDR4, but such high-capacity DIMM modules (even for 16-slot dual socket system) are still unavailable, I think.

[Thony]

Heard of this week or two ago on ncixtechtips, surprised this is 1st post about it on LTT. 

 

The white version looks like a fun from a game. 

 

I don't think it's too big for it packs 700+ pixels holy fadafakingfak !just slightly bigger than TV Studio camera. So no big deal. Deffo not a portable tech for live news. Just imagine a guy "carrying" it on his arm. Would be more like carrying a bear.

 

In 10-15 years this will be in size of a point and shoot depending on how bad people want this/ are willing to research and spend time on shrinking.

[Lethal Seraph]

3 hours ago, themctipers said:

It's so large

That's what she said. While on topic, let's not forget how humongous the computers back when it was first introduced. Let the tech mature, I'm sure it'll evolve into something portable.

[Linus_torvalds]

And these holiwood bitches take films at 24 FPS and sell them with up to 1080p resolution. Not even 4k

[Tech_Dreamer]

Awesome! Just Awesome!

[Belgarathian]

400GB per second 

 

I'm just not even sure how you would store the content with that bitrate. You'd need a portable data center running Raid 0 NVMe U.2 drives. 

 

 

[TheLarry]

1 minute ago, Belgarathian said:

400GB per second 

 

I'm just not even sure how you would store the content with that bitrate. You'd need a portable data center running Raid 0 NVMe U.2 drives. 

 

 

I'm presuming that that's just the maximum speed it can go. 4K quality at 60fps would be something way more reasonable. There really isn't anything to even show something as stupidly huge as 40K footage, especially at like 150fps  Also it's only meant for like really big studios with top of the line equipment.  

[Doobeedoo]

The storage needed though...

[BuckGup]

Gus Sorola was talking about this