What do you think about the G3258

[Wolfire]

Hi, im on a budget build and there is a cpu that hit me, the Pentium G3258 unlocked cpu, so i want you guys to tell me what you think about it, im planning to overclock it to the maximum that it can go. Is the overclock will compensate for the 2 core missing that it would have on an i5? Im planning to do moderate gaming at 2 k, i got an R9 390 from msi, and also, will it severly bottleneck the gpu.

[Guest]

Maybe go with an Athlon X4 860K

[DrM]

i dont believe that it is worth it, since to get any worthwhile oc, you need a z87/97. at that point, it might be cheaper to go with an i3, or even i5 locked and h series mobo. Most games these days require more than 2 cores anyways, so it would bottleneck your gpu (ex: farcry wont run on anything less than a 4-core)

[Noyu]

1.) Do you already have a MoBo to go with it?

2.) Do you plan to upgrade it in the future?

If both answers are yes, a G3258 would be a fine placeholder for a i7-4790 down the road.

But if no, you should probably go Skylake.

 

Note: you don't need to go Z with a G3258. See my sig.

 

[SLAYR]

7 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

Hi, im on a budget build and there is a cpu that hit me, the Pentium G3258 unlocked cpu, so i want you guys to tell me what you think about it, im planning to overclock it to the maximum that it can go. Is the overclock will compensate for the 2 core missing that it would have on an i5? Im planning to do moderate gaming at 2 k, i got an R9 390 from msi, and also, will it severly bottleneck the gpu.

For a 390 you need at least an i3/i5 if you want to avoid bottlenecks, and no matter how much you overclock it an i3/i5 will crush it.

 

On a sidenote why get a 390 for a "budget" build.

[HKZeroFive]

You have a case of not enough CPU and more than enough GPU. The Pentium strictly has two cores and threads, which many games won't like.

 

An i5 and R9 380 would be a better choice.

[Spirit_Hunter]

I had one in my first build, I was able to overclock it to 4.4GHz with a hyper 212 evo. It worked really well for playing games except for newer AAA games. Some games would be unable to start. Not sure how it would preform at 2K gaming, but you would need a stronger cpu & gpu combo to play AAA titles at that resolution. 

[Aereldor]

With an R9 390, the least I'd get is an Haswell i3 unless you want a seriously unpleasant bottleneck, and I'd still recommend an i5 4460 or an i5 6400 for the best experience.

[Neokolzia]

I did alot of research on the G3258, and in average gaming load, and that alone.  Overclocked its fine, and will handle it fine, but looking at building GF's pc, I mean I wouldn't want to build a system that feels sluggish multitasking, I.E Zipping or Unzipping something then trying to open a new browser, while a youtube video is playing or something, Currently on my Fx6300 with 6 threads, theres lots of ability to multitask which I give that credit for over say a G3258, and with my Fx6300 OC'd alot too, its far faster in Multithreaded loads, and doesn't easily get bogged down.  Single threaded loads it suffers a bit.

 

If have the budget try to thing less about the high ideal end, since most modern games are becoming multi-threaded, star citizen etc, isn't going to care nearly as much about single thread speeds but instead will utilize 6-8 cores easily.   

 

AMD in my opinion specifically the FX6300 which is easily able to overclock to 4.4ghz+, is a great budget multitasking CPU

 

Above that would be i5 4460, 6400 -> 6500, or for about 210$ Xeon e3-1231 v3 (essentially a i7 4770 without iGpu) <-- Best bang for buck.

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Don't forget to add into your calculations that when you go for a chip looking to overclock your now buying a generally more Expensive motherboard, buying a 40$+ Cooler generally, easily adding up to the difference.

 

70$ G3258 + 70$ of Cooling and motherboards, couldn't hold a candle to a Xeon for 210$ on a H97 motherboard

 

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Bottom line; G3258 will not bottleneck your GPU in certain titles that are Very single thread focused, but very intensive CPU games likely will bottleneck it alot.  Not to mention general user experience trying to multitask on the system.

 

i5 6400(or 6500<- recommend that over a 6400) or i5 4460 will cost about the same when you get the lower tier motherboard, and pass up the aftermarket cooling.  (Skylake has significantly lower power draw, and runs cooler and quieter)

 

Fx6300 is a Cheap multithreading option when overclocked has comparable single-threaded performance, owning one I can say I've hit bottlenecks on flip side in less multithread optimized games

[Noyu]

2 hours ago, Neokolzia said:

70$ G3258 + 70$ of Cooling and motherboards, couldn't hold a candle to a Xeon for 210$ on a H97 motherboard

I'm not defending the G3258 or anything, but people have to understand that YOU DON'T NEED A Z-BOARD to OC the G3258

This is the most common misconception with the G3258.

[Neokolzia]

47 minutes ago, Noyu said:

I'm not defending the G3258 or anything, but people have to understand that YOU DON'T NEED A Z-BOARD to OC the G3258

This is the most common misconception with the G3258.

Ah sorry didn't realize that, only guides I've seen were using Z boards I'd presume since higher quality VRM's and such, just assumed  

[Wolfire]

Here is my full build, To answer the question, yes im going to upgrade my system eventually, in 1 or 2 years or so. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/F38JvK

[Wolfire]

8 hours ago, SLAYR said:

For a 390 you need at least an i3/i5 if you want to avoid bottlenecks, and no matter how much you overclock it an i3/i5 will crush it.

 

On a sidenote why get a 390 for a "budget" build.

A man told me, stonger gpu and smaller cpu > smaller gpu and stronger cpu

[southpaw5271]

16 minutes ago, Wolfire said:

Here is my full build, To answer the question, yes im going to upgrade my system eventually, in 1 or 2 years or so. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/F38JvK

As long as you don't expect to play any modern games like GTA V, FarCry 4, DOOM... then you should be okay. Dual cores just can't keep up and for some games, won't even start up (FarCry 4, Battlefront etc.).

 

Maybe consider downgrading to a 380 and getting an i5?

[Wolfire]

I have a PS 3 and a xbox 360 so games that wont run properly i simply buy them on console, i will mostly play cod (bo3 to mw2) battlefield series, payday wot... Not really demanding games but ill change my monitor to a 4k

[cragger89]

My one does good work in my HTPC. Not overclocked, though.

[Nena Trinity]

12 hours ago, jkeasley said:

Maybe go with an Athlon X4 860K

This unless you will get i5 or i7 later...

[aisle9]

If you plan to upgrade to a Haswell i5/i7, the G3258 is a great chip. I loved mine, and still plan to use it again, perhaps in a HTPC? Overclocked it to 4.4GHz, too.

 

If you don't plan to upgrade to a Haswell i5 or i7, just get the 860K.

[Wolfire]

Yuss, ill upgrade it to an i7 4790k eventually

[harveylong26]

Mines great at 4.0GHz on Stock cooler, Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2H Motherboard.

I personally would go for an i3/i5 however

[aisle9]

1 hour ago, Wolfire said:

Yuss, ill upgrade it to an i7 4790k eventually

Then grab a G3258 and OC it like you stole it!

[Guest]

On 3/15/2016 at 2:29 AM, Nena360 said:

This unless you will get i5 or i7 later...

Maybe a skylake i3 then?

[Nena Trinity]

1 hour ago, jkeasley said:

Maybe a skylake i3 then?

My top 4 budget CPUs are 860K, FX-6300, i5-4460 & i3-6100!  

[SteveGrabowski0]

The G3258 and an R9 390 sounds like a nightmare. I ran a 4.4 GHz G3258 with a GTX 970 and it was a horrible experience in the vast majority of modern games. Even cpu light games like Skyrim and Tomb Raider 2013 ran like ass and couldn't keep anything close to a locked 60 fps, just constant oscillations in framerate and gpu usage. If you bought an R9 390 and didn't leave enough in the budget for an i5 then you really screwed up. To get a playable experience in new games you're going to have to introduce frame caps which will make your $330 R9 390 perform more like a $150 R7 370.

[SteveGrabowski0]

Check this video @i_build_nanosuits made simulating a 4.5 GHz G3258 with his i7-4770k by disabling cores and HT and then overclocking. He combined this cpu with a GTX 780, and his results are spot on in comparison to what I experienced with an actual 4.4 GHz G3258 and a GTX 970.