Posted October 2, 2017 Author 2 hours ago, mrthuvi said: I'm using HE 400i at the moment. Here where I am, plus shipping, Fulla 2 ~US$130, Shiit stack (modi 2 and magni 3) ~ $260 (gonna take some time before magin 3 is in stock though), NFB 11.28 is ~ $360. I have yet to hear the magni 3, but according to some then it is better than the amp part of the nfb 11.28. I know that the NFB 11.28 pairs really well planar headphones. A magni 3 and modi 2 is going to be more than enough for HE 400i and it would be a pretty balanced setup. I would take the one that makes the most economical sense for you, so if you could use the extra 100$ a NFB 11.28 cost on something else that can help you in your life, then get the schiit magni 3 and modi 2. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 2, 2017 Thank you for the advice. You were really helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 I've a question. Does the MrSpeaker Aeons need anything more than a soundcard (Mine is the asus xonar DGX soundcard). and i use an X99A Krait so im assuming onboard audio is semi decent as well? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 Author 38 minutes ago, applesuxD said: I've a question. Does the MrSpeaker Aeons need anything more than a soundcard (Mine is the asus xonar DGX soundcard). and i use an X99A Krait so im assuming onboard audio is semi decent as well? I sadly haven't tried them, but a few people I know said that they like to get a lot of power, but just a heads up he does shadow updates to them and the sound does change, at least that is what I have read. When we talk this tier of headphones then I would recommend getting something like the schiit stack or better, but you can probably power then of your onboard. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Dackzy said: I sadly haven't tried them, but a few people I know said that they like to get a lot of power, but just a heads up he does shadow updates to them and the sound does change, at least that is what I have read. When we talk this tier of headphones then I would recommend getting something like the schiit stack or better, but you can probably power then of your onboard. Yeah alot of them say the headphone gets more "dynamic" when powered properly. How about the schiit fulla 2? Does it work fine? Still haven't gotten the headphones though but i did give it a listen at a store. But that store's cheapest dac is like a damn chord mojo so I never got to try with something like a schiit :'( I'm pretty well convinced to get these headphones unless there are others that can compete which is hard to find. And the store owner also said that there's a magni 3. I guess I can use that? my onboard dac seems perfectly fine. “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 Author 6 minutes ago, applesuxD said: Yeah alot of them say the headphone gets more "dynamic" when powered properly. How about the schiit fulla 2? Does it work fine? Still haven't gotten the headphones though but i did give it a listen at a store. But that store's cheapest dac is like a damn chord mojo so I never got to try with something like a schiit :'( I'm pretty well convinced to get these headphones unless there are others that can compete which is hard to find. And the store owner also said that there's a magni 3. I guess I can use that? my onboard dac seems perfectly fine. Just be careful when buying them, there might have been a shadow update of them or something like that. Also please post your impressions or something like that when you have had then for a while, I have always wanted to test them, but basically the only option for me would be to buy them, since nobody really has them here in Denmark and I am not willing to drop that kind of money just to test them. Yeah the magni 3 seems to be pretty good and then maybe later you could add a modi 2 or 3, it is going to show an improvement. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dackzy said: Just be careful when buying them, there might have been a shadow update of them or something like that. Also please post your impressions or something like that when you have had then for a while, I have always wanted to test them, but basically the only option for me would be to buy them, since nobody really has them here in Denmark and I am not willing to drop that kind of money just to test them. Yeah the magni 3 seems to be pretty good and then maybe later you could add a modi 2 or 3, it is going to show an improvement. mrspeakers always do these kinda updates? hmm...wud sm1 like tyll from innerfidelity tell us “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 13, 2017 Author 2 minutes ago, applesuxD said: mrspeakers always do these kinda updates? hmm...wud sm1 like tyll from innerfidelity tell us It seems like he does it quite often, mostly when the headphones are new, I think aornic talked about this in his video about them. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 4:07 AM, Dackzy said: It seems like he does it quite often, mostly when the headphones are new, I think aornic talked about this in his video about them. How does the magni 3 + modi 2 compare to fulla 2? I'm just confused as to whether to get a stack(i think the modi 3's gonna come out soon) or just fulla 2 since the fulla is pretty powerful for quite a few headphones.. This might be a stupid qn (forgive me , I have no idea how tube amps work and I kinda wanna give it a try since im getting a new amp hence my qn) : Can you run a tube amp like a normal amp w/o any distortion/change to the sound, and how? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 16, 2017 Author 30 minutes ago, applesuxD said: How does the magni 3 + modi 2 compare to fulla 2? I'm just confused as to whether to get a stack(i think the modi 3's gonna come out soon) or just fulla 2 since the fulla is pretty powerful for quite a few headphones.. This might be a stupid qn (forgive me , I have no idea how tube amps work and I kinda wanna give it a try since im getting a new amp hence my qn) : Can you run a tube amp like a normal amp w/o any distortion/change to the sound, and how? no stupid questions, only stupid answers. The modi 2 + magni 3 will offer you more detail, cleaner power, wider sound, less grain, no clipping and ofc a lot more power. The Fulla 2 does have enough power to power most headphones, there will be some where you need to turn it almost all the way up and some where it simply doesn't have enough power. A tube is generally going to change the sound a bit or a lot depending on the tube and the design, and they do all have higher distortion than a solid state one, but as people say "it is good distortion". Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Dackzy said: no stupid questions, only stupid answers. The modi 2 + magni 3 will offer you more detail, cleaner power, wider sound, less grain, no clipping and ofc a lot more power. The Fulla 2 does have enough power to power most headphones, there will be some where you need to turn it almost all the way up and some where it simply doesn't have enough power. A tube is generally going to change the sound a bit or a lot depending on the tube and the design, and they do all have higher distortion than a solid state one, but as people say "it is good distortion". I see. So I'm guessing that because some amps are too weak to get the headphone to proper volume, it doesn't sound very clean as well? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, Dackzy said: no stupid questions, only stupid answers. The modi 2 + magni 3 will offer you more detail, cleaner power, wider sound, less grain, no clipping and ofc a lot more power. The Fulla 2 does have enough power to power most headphones, there will be some where you need to turn it almost all the way up and some where it simply doesn't have enough power. A tube is generally going to change the sound a bit or a lot depending on the tube and the design, and they do all have higher distortion than a solid state one, but as people say "it is good distortion". Just saw a listing of Schiit Modi and Vali for about SGD220. (about 150USD?) Good deal? Also there's an Objective 2 amp selling for about 60ish USD. “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 16, 2017 Author 4 minutes ago, applesuxD said: Just saw a listing of Schiit Modi and Vali for about SGD220. (about 150USD?) Good deal? Also there's an Objective 2 amp selling for about 60ish USD. if it is the OG ones, then nah not really, if it is the 2. gen then yes. 9 minutes ago, applesuxD said: I see. So I'm guessing that because some amps are too weak to get the headphone to proper volume, it doesn't sound very clean as well? well cleanness and power doesn't go together, but the magni is cleaner sounding than the fulla 2 and it has more power Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Dackzy said: if it is the OG ones, then nah not really, if it is the 2. gen then yes. well cleanness and power doesn't go together, but the magni is cleaner sounding than the fulla 2 and it has more power The magni is slightly warmer right? Is there any more neutral ones? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Dackzy said: if it is the OG ones, then nah not really, if it is the 2. gen then yes. well cleanness and power doesn't go together, but the magni is cleaner sounding than the fulla 2 and it has more power "MrSpeakers reserves the right to modify product performance and specifications at any time and without notice. " they actually state it in their terms and conditions o_o But they say it'll stay true to spec so i guess its fine “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 Author 57 minutes ago, applesuxD said: The magni is slightly warmer right? Is there any more neutral ones? The magni 2 uber is very lean and neutral for its price and you can probably get it for a good price used. 21 minutes ago, applesuxD said: "MrSpeakers reserves the right to modify product performance and specifications at any time and without notice. " they actually state it in their terms and conditions o_o But they say it'll stay true to spec so i guess its fine True to spec is just the frequency range, impedance and sensitivity. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dackzy said: The magni 2 uber is very lean and neutral for its price and you can probably get it for a good price used. True to spec is just the frequency range, impedance and sensitivity. There isn't any magni 2 uber being sold in my country right now.. I've read online reviews of the Objective 2 Amp from JDS Labs, can it power the aeons? Otherwise I'll probably stick with magni 3 if it isn't that warm “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 Author 1 hour ago, applesuxD said: There isn't any magni 2 uber being sold in my country right now.. I've read online reviews of the Objective 2 Amp from JDS Labs, can it power the aeons? Otherwise I'll probably stick with magni 3 if it isn't that warm It should be able to, but a magni 3 is quite a bit better than the O2 and no the magni 3 isn't that warm at all. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dackzy said: It should be able to, but a magni 3 is quite a bit better than the O2 and no the magni 3 isn't that warm at all. Alright then. I'll probably go for a magni 3. How about having a dac,will I need it if there's no hiss? (I'll be running through my motherboard out since I realise that asus sound cards have extreme EQ -_-) This begs the question.. do alot of motherboard on laptops and desktops have their own EQ to boost the high and bass similar to an asus soundcard? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 Author 44 minutes ago, applesuxD said: Alright then. I'll probably go for a magni 3. How about having a dac,will I need it if there's no hiss? (I'll be running through my motherboard out since I realise that asus sound cards have extreme EQ -_-) This begs the question.. do alot of motherboard on laptops and desktops have their own EQ to boost the high and bass similar to an asus soundcard? a DAC like the modi 2 would give you more detail and also a cleaner sound, is it a must? No, but it will improve your audio quality. I know that Asus has a EQ software for their mobos, but I really don't know for any other company, and you can always just use 3rd party EQs if you feel the need Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 54 minutes ago, Dackzy said: a DAC like the modi 2 would give you more detail and also a cleaner sound, is it a must? No, but it will improve your audio quality. I know that Asus has a EQ software for their mobos, but I really don't know for any other company, and you can always just use 3rd party EQs if you feel the need What headphones need those super hardcore amp & dacs like the mjolnir? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 Author 2 hours ago, applesuxD said: What headphones need those super hardcore amp & dacs like the mjolnir? The Hifiman HE 6 can easily use that power, but these higher end amps are more for bringing out details and they generally have wider sound than the cheaper options and some headphones are really sensitive to these things. It is all in the name of getting the highest audio quality you can afford. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dackzy said: The Hifiman HE 6 can easily use that power, but these higher end amps are more for bringing out details and they generally have wider sound than the cheaper options and some headphones are really sensitive to these things. It is all in the name of getting the highest audio quality you can afford. I see.. so how much you should pay for an amp depends on how much the headphone can improve with it. Lets say an audio tech M50X is not gonna benefit so much, but a HD800S might, or maybe a hd600. Or is it that lower end headphones have no reason to need a good amp/dac when one can just upgrade the headphone itself? “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 Author 10 minutes ago, applesuxD said: I see.. so how much you should pay for an amp depends on how much the headphone can improve with it. Lets say an audio tech M50X is not gonna benefit so much, but a HD800S might, or maybe a hd600. Or is it that lower end headphones have no reason to need a good amp/dac when one can just upgrade the headphone itself? The first part is all up to you and what you think it is worth. The HD 800 show extremely well how good you DAC and amp is, while the hd6x0 don't show it to the same degree, but they do improve well with higher end gear. You shouldn't buy a DAC and amp for lower end gear if you don't have noise on your onboard, because you would see a bigger improvement with a better headphone. There are Ofc somr exceptions to this, but generally headphones before DAC and amp. Before you buy amp and dac. My thoughts on the M50x Ultimate Ears Reference monitor review I might have a thing for audio... My main Headphones and IEMs: K612 pro, HD 25 and Ultimate Ears Reference Monitor, HD 580 with HD 600 grills DAC and AMP: RME ADI 2 DAC Speakers: Genelec 8040, System Audio SA205 Receiver: Denon AVR-1612 Desktop: R7 1700, GTX 1080 RX 580 8GB and other stuff Laptop: ThinkPad P50: i7 6820HQ, M2000M. ThinkPad T420s: i7 2640M, NVS 4200M Feel free to pm me if you have a question for me or quote me. If you want to hear what I have to say about something just tag me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dackzy said: The first part is all up to you and what you think it is worth. The HD 800 show extremely well how good you DAC and amp is, while the hd6x0 don't show it to the same degree, but they do improve well with higher end gear. You shouldn't buy a DAC and amp for lower end gear if you don't have noise on your onboard, because you would see a bigger improvement with a better headphone. There are Ofc somr exceptions to this, but generally headphones before DAC and amp. I realise this just sums up the whole thread “It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.” ― C.S. Lewis :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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