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Trey222

This is a very strange question but I will ask it anyways. The question being will a CPU still work if I were to make a CPU riser. I have not made the CPU riser yet but if I do it will connect all the CPU pads to all the socket pins. I would kinda be like a PCI-E riser. Sorry if this is confusing  I was not really sure how to ask this. 

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For what reason would you do this? And how would you make your own riser?

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theoretically, its possible, but no saying if it would work

Never seen/heard it done before, not sure how you'd mount the heatsink ontop of that...

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I would love to see that and see howd you would cool it. It might actually look awesome. Also seeing 1000 or so pins connected to a crap load of wires would be funny to see

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Theoretically, I guess it would work. Is it a good idea? Maybe. I'd give it a shot if you have the resources.

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Just now, tp95112 said:

I would love to see that and see howd you would cool it. It might actually look awesome. Also seeing 1000 or so pins connected to a crap load of wires would be funny to see

Maybe he will make a 100ft riser and just make the CPU float on a pool outside of his house lol.

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Just now, Badazzz said:

Maybe he will make a 100ft riser and just make the CPU float on a pool outside of his house lol.

Or make it so that its upside down and just the heatspreader touches the water

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4 minutes ago, Trey222 said:

This is a very strange question but I will ask it anyways. The question being will a CPU still work if I were to make a CPU riser. I have not made the CPU riser yet but if I do it will connect all the CPU pads to all the socket pins. I would kinda be like a PCI-E riser. Sorry if this is confusing  I was not really sure how to ask this. 

The main issue I would see with this is latency or inference problems since they specifically design traces on the board to be a certain lengths and even create extra turns if needed to make some longer. 

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2 minutes ago, mikat said:

inb4 someone goes to freegeek, buys some cpus and mobos and tries to do this xD

I'd do this but there isnt one in my area lol

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5 minutes ago, Tie Lightning said:

For what reason would you do this? And how would you make your own riser?

I have no reason other than because I can. 

 

4 minutes ago, tp95112 said:

I would love to see that and see howd you would cool it. It might actually look awesome. Also seeing 1000 or so pins connected to a crap load of wires would be funny to see

I think if I cut off the bottom of one CPU then connect wires to that then to the CPU. 

4 minutes ago, Ronnie76 said:

theoretically, its possible, but no saying if it would work

Never seen/heard it done before, not sure how you'd mount the heatsink ontop of that...

Not sure how a heatsink would work. 

4 minutes ago, GoldenBE said:

The only thing I wonder, is there really a purpose for this?

I had the idea for a custom build that would be like an explosion. I could do that with the GPUs some what easily with riser cards them I thought this would work with a CPU.

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4 minutes ago, W-L said:

The main issue I would see with this is latency or inference problems since they specifically design traces on the board to be a certain lengths and even create extra turns if needed to make some longer. 

This is what I was thinking and why I asked. 

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20 minutes ago, Trey222 said:

This is what I was thinking and why I asked. 

Well, that question isn't easily answered. There are limits to the things even enthusiasts know...

My guess is that it's highly circumstantial based on the specific motherboard, CPU, length of the riser, materials used, hell- maybe even RAM and GPUs (After all, they communicate directly with the CPU)...

 

But since this is not something that people do, I think the only ways to get an answer would be either to do it or ask a microcircuitry engineer.

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46 minutes ago, tp95112 said:

Or make it so that its upside down and just the heatspreader touches the water

True watercooling right there. 

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I don't think it would run very well if at all even if it were perfectly wired. The added latency would wreck havoc like W-L said. The cpu is very latency sensitive, all the traces on the mobo are designed so that specific signals arrive at specific times.

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So look like this...?

 

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  • 2 years later...

I will add my 2 cents . DIY computers are made from standards ATX etc and there are made in an easy way to built and upgrade. Motherboards cases are all made from the same standard for compatibility. The way they are made and manufactured has been designed for easy of installation and upgradability. Intel made slot loading cpus before but no way to add aftermarket cpu coolers that lat you the stock cpu cooler the only option. Latency heat issues( that would be a big problem for today's cpus) was concerned and intel didn't need separate l2 cashe so they returned to the socket that is cheaper manufacturing process. Also some manufacturers like dell and hp makes computers wise cpu memory risers but this need costume case and custom motherboard that fits only with there computers These computers are not made to be upgradable from consumers rather than hp or dell services (even if you can upgrade it but if you break something its at your own risk). Even Mac pros had cpu ram risers but also apple computers were never made to be upgradable from end user rather than apple service

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  • 4 years later...

id like to bump this discussion as i was considering getting into pc modding and making a video about this to start my youtube channel, is it possible to use an amd cpu and maybe imprint the indents on the back of the socket into a mould to get the dimensions accurate into creating a tower of wires to connect the pin to the socket of the motherboard?

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They used to make a 486 socket changer setup back in the intel/amd early days like 2003 maybe in this vein, but that was the end of them too cause sockets were getting too complicated, money etc...

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Just now, AI_Must_Di3 said:

They used to make a 486 socket changer setup back in the intel/amd early days like 2003 maybe in this vein, but that was the end of them too cause sockets were getting too complicated, money etc...

i surfed a bit and i think i found what you were talking about, is it this voltage adapter ?

Voltage_converter_for_80486_dx4_processors_2007_03_27.jpg

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@5F90 Yup, I believe thats the sucker. I never owned one but i used to see the ads for them all the time in the magazines etc... Pretty cool right?!? 😉

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2 hours ago, AI_Must_Di3 said:

@5F90 Yup, I believe thats the sucker. I never owned one but i used to see the ads for them all the time in the magazines etc... Pretty cool right?!? 😉

yea it is pretty cool ! Im relatively new to tech but this looks kinda jank and really aesthetic

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  • 8 months later...

Sorry to bring a old post back to life but i did this and it worked suprisingly well when i made a 3d printed bracket so i know where wires go and then made it waterproof and dunked the IHS in a pool the latency was fine because i just used copper wires sealed with plastic
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