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Well, I step away for a minute and everyone blows up my notifications. That's what I love about this site. I decided to wait until it cooled down and it seems that that point has been reached.

 

It appears that the conclusion is that in this situation, factoring out iGPU and OCing because neither apply, I should choose the Xeon E3-1231 because it is essentially the same processor for $50 less.

 

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Is there any reason why I should pay ~$50 more for the 4770 other than iGPU that I won't use anyway?

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Well, the 4790k is can be overclocked. 

 

If you do not plan on overclocking, and really dont care about the extra little bit of GHz or the iGPU, the Xeon is a better deal. 

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Gaming (and other similar applications) prefer less cores and more performance per core. If you're buiding a high end NAS or something, a xeon would be good, but if you're just playing games then and i7 will be way better, believe me.

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If they are the same with clock speeds and cores, buy the cheaper one.

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2 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

Gaming (and other similar applications) prefer less cores and more performance per core. If you're buiding a high end NAS or something, a xeon would be good, but if you're just playing games then and i7 will be way better, believe me.

no it will not. only if you overclock it you will see much of a benefit. but non-k i7 doesn't OC.

 

also typing believe me instantly removes all credibility from your post.

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They're almost the same, the main difference being that the Xeon has no iGPU like the i7 has. The Xeon should also be cheaper. If you don't want to overclock, and you don't need the iGPU, then the Xeon would be enough. 

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Seeing as you're looking at a 4770 which can't overclock you might as well save your money and go with the Xeon, unless of course you plan on doing anything that can take advantage of Quick Sync

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3 minutes ago, ZetZet said:

no it will not. only if you overclock it you will see much of a benefit. but non-k i7 doesn't OC.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

 

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1 minute ago, Badazzz said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

Please dont use this "cpuboss" as reference, its a pretty bad website.

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4 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

More specifily you like to look at CPU boss. Right there is your problem. I have seen acctually credible sources measure them the other way around regardless of task (if the iGPU is not involved).

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5 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

 

EDIT: "Believe me" is just something I say as a part of a speech pattern, I don't know what it has to do with my credibility.

CPUBOSS? LOL

 

not to mention you compared 1230 vs 4770K

 

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Xeon-E3-1231-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770/m11040vs1978

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_xeon_e3_1231_v3-437-vs-intel_core_i7_4770-36

 

it's EXACTLY the same

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8 minutes ago, Stardar1 said:

Well, the 4790k is can be overclocked. 

 

If you do not plan on overclocking, and really dont care about the extra little bit of GHz or the iGPU, the Xeon is a better deal. 

he's talking about the i7 4770, not the i7 4790k.

a 4770 cannot be overclocked and has only the igpu on it as a difference.

 

@JFischer00 there's really no reason to get the 4770, just get the xeon and throw a cheap 240gb ssd in with the money you saved. ssd's are always a good investment :D

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Just now, Badazzz said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

lol a cpuboss link.

the procesors are identical. except the i7 has igpu that the OP specified that he doesn`t use it anyway. oh and 100mhz less on turbo. so 100mhz less for 1 core only. insignificant. 

http://ark.intel.com/products/75122/Intel-Core-i7-4770-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz

http://ark.intel.com/products/80910/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1231-v3-8M-Cache-3_40-GHz

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1 minute ago, RuLeZ said:

Please dont use this "cpuboss" as reference, its a pretty bad website.

 

Just now, GER_T4IGA said:

More specifily you like to look at CPU boss. Right there is your problem. I have seen credible sources acctual measure them the other way around regardless of task (if the iGPU is not involved).

 

Then find better statistics for me. I've yet to see a xeon beat a core i7 in gaming on any site.

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The Xeon is the EXACT same CPU as the i7-4770 (non-K). Same Cores, same architecture, everything is the same

Only differences are the following:

 

- Xeon has no igp

 

Thats it. Aside from maybe  Clock speed differences, or some unimportant instruction sets.

 

Take the Cheaper one. No reason for an i7, as long you dont OC it.

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Just now, Atmos said:

he's talking about the i7 4770, not the i7 4790k.

a 4770 cannot be overclocked and has only the igpu on it as a difference.

 

@JFischer00 there's really no reason to get the 4770, just get the xeon and throw a cheap 240gb ssd in with the money you saved. ssd's are always a good investment :D

Right, but the 4790k is the only LGA 1150 I7 I ever recommend getting.

 

the 4770, 4770k and 4790 are never worth buying IMO. 

 

so, yes, if you are not OCing, the Xeon is fine. 

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Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

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If anyone can find statistics that actually say a xeon is better than an i7 then please link me :) because you won't.

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2 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

 

 

Then find better statistics for me. I've yet to see a xeon beat a core i7 in gaming on any site.

no one says it beats anything, it's the exact same processor. they are the same. except xeon is WAY cheaper.

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6 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E3-1230-v3-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K

 

The 4770 beat the xeon in all departments not overclocked. But I don't know, maybe I'm just stupid because I like to look at real statistics and not stupid forum rumors.

 

EDIT: "Believe me" is just something I say as a part of a speech pattern, I don't know what it has to do with my credibility.

Please, don't use [anything]boss again. It's one of the WORST comparative sites out there...

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

 

 

Then find better statistics for me. I've yet to see a xeon beat a core i7 in gaming on any site.

That is a german report though and they didn' compare to a 4770 but a 4770k.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/Tests/Xeon-E3-1231-v3-Test-1126500/

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Just now, Badazzz said:

If anyone can find statistics that actually say a xeon is better than an i7 then please link me :) because you won't.

sure here you go 

 

same identical cpus. 4ghz turbo both

be amazed

 

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Just now, ZetZet said:

no one says it beats anything, it's the exact same processor. they are the same.

No they aren't. A Xeon has more low performance cores, gaming prefers less cores. I mentioned this in my first post here.

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1 minute ago, ZetZet said:

no one says it beats anything, it's the exact same processor. they are the same. except xeon is WAY cheaper.

Well, and the tiny bit of turbo. 

 

But, if you are not OCing, a Xeon is the way to go (instead of the I7)

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Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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2 minutes ago, Badazzz said:

If anyone can find statistics that actually say a xeon is better than an i7 then please link me :) because you won't.

Well, they perform the same, but the Xeon is cheaper, and therefore better. That is the consensus we reached here. 

 

So here is your link: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/545799-xeon-e3-1231-vs-core-i7-4770/

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Well, with an i7, GTX 1080, Full tower and flashy lights, it can obviously only be for one thing:

Solitaire. 

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1 minute ago, Badazzz said:

No they aren't. A Xeon has more low performance cores, gaming prefers less cores. I mentioned this in my first post here.

THEY ARE THE SAME CORES AT THE SAME SPEEDS. i7 boosts 100MHz higher, THAT'S IT.

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