Overwatch Gets a release date, paid game with console versions coming

[Bensemus]

No you don't buy heroes.  During the Q&A they mentioned that they are committed to 21 characters, and all 21 have been revealed.  There are no plans for future characters yet.

If they don't make more characters this game is dead. 21 characters is pitiful if you are going after a moba like feel with different characters having different abilities.

[Samfisher]

If they don't make more characters this game is dead. 21 characters is pitiful if you are going after a moba like feel with different characters having different abilities.

Sure, but they can take their time with the release.  Blizzard has always been committed to quality and they will delay anything and everything until it meets their standard.  That is also no indication that they will charge for heroes/map packs.  They are still a business and need to make money.

[Doobeedoo]

eh, not really, moba has rpg elements (leveling, stats etc etc), and most of the time items, this is more like TF2. 

Not really, it doesn't have creep and items but everything else is there. Heroes of the Storm don't have items. But in Overwatch there are healers, tanks and many heroes with different abilities and each hero haves ultimate. Objectives are also there.

[CatCloud]

Not really, it doesn't have creep and items but everything else is there. Heroes of the Storm don't have items. But in Overwatch there are healers, tanks and many heroes with different abilities and each hero haves ultimate. Objectives are also there.

No creeps, no leveling, no items, no "base" or "walls" to defend.

The one and only thing this game has that is "moba like" is the Roles, Buts offence, defense and support is in other games as well, Like TF2,  "tank" is the only thing not in there.

 

Objectives is not a Moba feature, lol. ALL games have objectives, in fact most mobas barley have any objectives aside from the classic "defend your base"

I mean, is Battlefield a Moba? they have objectives, different "abilities", roles and plays in a "arena" 

Call it a moba if you wish, ill just call it a Team based multiplayer FPS with abilities Or TF2 with more characters and gadgets. 

Blizzard themselves call it A Team based shooter, so that's what it is as i se nothing wrong with that.

[Yoinkerman]

eh I really hope it doesn't turn into a fee to pay game.

[Suika]

But in Overwatch there are healers, tanks and many heroes with different abilities and each hero haves ultimate. Objectives are also there.

Team Fortress 2 has the Medic (healer), it has the Heavy (tank), and many classes with different weapons and attributes. Objectives are basically every game mode (Payload, KoTH, Control Point, Payload Race, etc).

 

Is Team Fortress 2 a MOBA?

[CatCloud]

eh I really hope it doesn't turn into a fee to pay game.

its already confirmed and set in stone its buy to play.

[RexinOridle]

I'm just wondering if that's a female or a male.

 

Day 952, still searching for boobs.

[Doobeedoo]

No creeps, no leveling, no items, no "base" or "walls" to defend.

The one and only thing this game has that is "moba like" is the Roles, Buts offence, defense and support is in other games as well, Like TF2,  "tank" is the only thing not in there.

 

Objectives is not a Moba feature, lol. ALL games have objectives, in fact most mobas barley have any objectives aside from the classic "defend your base"

I mean, is Battlefield a Moba? they have objectives, different "abilities", roles and plays in a "arena" 

Call it a moba if you wish, ill just call it a Team based multiplayer FPS with abilities Or TF2 with more characters and gadgets. 

Blizzard themselves call it A Team based shooter, so that's what it is as i se nothing wrong with that.

Blizzard calls HotS team brawler since team fights are more often, it's still moba game. And "team based games" is new kind of thing devs want to promote with games while making them all moba like lately to attract masses. In OW roles are so unique to characters, which are many, and it's simply in fps form. And yeah, objestives, defend base or push, it's in OW to. 

LoL Dota are RTS based moba games

Smite is 3. person action moba game

Overwatch is FPS based moba game

 

Game like Battlefield where you can support teammates is far from support like in OW they're so close to chars like in top moba games. 

It's simply moba like game. Same how HotS is also, but devs want to differentiate their games in already saturated market so they try to make them somewhat different and they give them some other name like "team based shooter" or "team brawler" where they're all derived from moba and their core gameplay is so similar.

[CatCloud]

Blizzard calls HotS team brawler since team fights are more often, it's still moba game. And "team based games" is new kind of thing devs want to promote with games while making them all moba like lately to attract masses. In OW roles are so unique to characters, which are many, and it's simply in fps form. And yeah, objestives, defend base or push, it's in OW to. 

LoL Dota are RTS based moba games

Smite is 3. person action moba game

Overwatch is FPS based moba game

 

Game like Battlefield where you can support teammates is far from support like in OW they're so close to chars like in top moba games. 

It's simply moba like game. Same how HotS is also, but devs want to differentiate their games in already saturated market so they try to make them somewhat different and they give them some other name like "team based shooter" or "team brawler" where they're all derived from moba and their core gameplay is so similar.

By your definition Counter Strike and Team Fortress must be a Moba then.

[Doobeedoo]

By your definition Counter Strike and Team Fortress must be a Moba then.

No

[CatCloud]

No

oh? Go ahead and explain.

[Doobeedoo]

oh? Go ahead and explain.

I don't know why you mentioned CS there cause everyone are equal in a way meaning everyone can get same weapons if they want.

TF have number of classes and while it's more comparable to OW it's not like it exactly. It haves many more heroes etc.

[CatCloud]

I don't know why you mentioned CS there cause everyone are equal in a way meaning everyone can get same weapons if they want.

TF have number of classes and while it's more comparable to OW it's not like it exactly. It haves many more heroes etc.

So your saying because there is a large cast of different characters and 1 extra super ability it's moba like? Because that's the only real difference from TF 2 an OW.

[Samfisher]

I don't know why you mentioned CS there cause everyone are equal in a way meaning everyone can get same weapons if they want.

TF have number of classes and while it's more comparable to OW it's not like it exactly. It haves many more heroes etc.

"Heroes" isn't a genre.  By your definition of a MOBA game, World of Warcraft is a MOBA game (12 classes).  Guild Wars 1 with main and secondary classes per character is a MOBA (10 classes for a total of 200 class combinations).  If TF2 had 3 times more heroes it magically becomes a MOBA game as well?  Lel.

[Guest Kloaked]

Overwatch is FPS based moba game

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena

[CatCloud]

@Samfisher @Kloaked

Thank you.

[Guest Kloaked]

@Samfisher @Kloaked

Thank you.

 

To be fair, what I've heard about the game, it has usual "MOBA" elements to bit, but yeah it's not a moba.

[Doobeedoo]

So your saying because there is a large cast of different characters and 1 extra super ability it's moba like? Because that's the only real difference from TF 2 an OW.

Each character have different main weapon, abilities and ultimate. There are just no creeps and game is in fps form. What's not to understand?

[Doobeedoo]

"Heroes" isn't a genre.  By your definition of a MOBA game, World of Warcraft is a MOBA game (12 classes).  Guild Wars 1 with main and secondary classes per character is a MOBA (10 classes for a total of 200 class combinations).  If TF2 had 3 times more heroes it magically becomes a MOBA game as well?  Lel.

I'm saying that lately devs are making games more and more moba to core gameplay. They saw they can't make infinite copies of games like LoL Dota so they changed some stuff, it's still same thing. I can't see how you compare MMORPGs here. I mean, WoW arena only wise it would suite Multiplayer Online battle Arena but it's not only arena for that game. And also term is diluted, second all newer games are so based on mobas that their gameplay style is same in core. 

[Doobeedoo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_online_battle_arena

Please don't link me wikipedia man. Doesn't mean much.

OW haves specialized characters that are either healer, tank, specialist or assassin. You're just playing it as FPS really.

[Guest Kloaked]

Please don't link me wikipedia man. Doesn't mean much.

OW haves specialized characters that are either healer, tank, specialist or assassin. You're just playing it as FPS really.

 

Those specializations don't make a moba.

 

I linked you the wiki for a reason.

[Doobeedoo]

Just don't tell me moba games are just the ones on "List of moba games" cause it says so.
Could you tell me less popular games that you know of that are moba one?

[werto165]

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE? Stop arguing about pointless crap. 

[CatCloud]

Each character have different main weapon, abilities and ultimate. There are just no creeps and game is in fps form. What's not to understand?

First of your the one that doesn't understand.

Only creeps are missing? No, wrong, everything moba related is missing.

No creeps.

No leveling.

No base defence. (spawn Point doesn't count)

No QWE moves + ultimate (OW has 2 abilities and 1 super ability that have to charge up)

No store for gear.

No paths with towers that need to be defended

Borderlands also have a special attack that works similar to OW.

This game is in almost every way like team fortress 2, just with less Content in its current state and more characters and 1 special ability.

Is team fortress moba like? No

Is OW moba like? No. And having a special move does not make it one.

Evolve also have special moves and classes with there own weapon, it's not a moba or moba like game.

And don't talk about objectives because you clearly dont know what those are.

All games have time, ALL! It's not a moba exclusive thing, never was.

If the game had creeps or leveling or more abilities it would be Dota like, if it had all of that it would be very Dota like.

End of discussion.