My Samsung 950 Pro just delivered

[TJPC]

So I've been wanting to do a clean install of windows 10 and my hard drives have been getting full so its time to upgrade. 

 

I did a day 1 order of the new samsung pro Im hoping its good and Im replacing my dynamic 1TB drive made of 4 256GB SSDs to one 1TB samsung SSD...

 

 

[ThinkWithPortals]

@TJPC Noice!

[Paralectic]

Status update...

 

but noice

[iamdarkyoshi]

May I "borrow" it for a "short period of time"

[KemoKa]

Make sure you stick a heatsink on that sucker...

[CalebTheEternal]

You know that with those 4 drives you could have made a spanned volume. Have a single one as a boot drive and some other small objects, then span the other ones into "one" drive. That's what I just did with my 3 spare SSDs, it was too hard to figure out which drive was which :C Willing to get rid of those 4 SSDs? I could use some more  

[SPAS-ID]

looks dope with all that "Black"

[Enderman]

Remember to add a heatsink

it has overheating issues, that will damage it over time if you dont cool it correctly

[iamdarkyoshi]

Remember to add a heatsink

it has overheating issues, that will damage it over time if you dont cool it correctly

why on earth did they design something that cant adequately cool itself? Like the ref. 290x

[Senzelian]

Remember to add a heatsink

it has overheating issues, that will damage it over time if you dont cool it correctly

 

why on earth did they design something that cant adequately cool itself? Like the ref. 290x

It doesn't have overheating issues.

You need to write at least around 150GB at once at 1.5GB per second to get the thing to thermal throttle. And because it thermal throttles it doesn't damage itself.

Thermal throttleing only occurs without any airflow. As long as he has good airflow he won't even notice a performance decrease.

[Palorim12]

As long as your system has good airflow over the M.2 area, you'll be fine. No need to put heatsinks and such. 

 

Allyn from PCPER review:

 

"Thermal Throttling

When Samsung announced the 950 PRO, several of you commented on potential thermal throttling due to heat generated in such a small package during heavy use. The following image represents a worst case scenario, with the 950 PRO being sequentially written with zero airflow across it:

 

 

As you can see, you would have to write nearly 150GB at over 1.5GB/sec to get a 950 PRO to warm up enough to throttle, and when it does, the throttling is very minor, dropping to only 1.2GB/sec intermittently. The slightest airflow prevents this from happening at all, and even if there was zero airflow, the chances of maxing a 950 PRO out on writes for that long of a burst is extremely unlikely in even the most demanding consumer usage scenario."

[Knaj]

Ya know since you now have a 950 Pro, I guess you don't need that 1tb 850 EVO.

 

I can take it off of your hands for you if you want

[TJPC]

You know that with those 4 drives you could have made a spanned volume. Have a single one as a boot drive and some other small objects, then span the other ones into "one" drive. That's what I just did with my 3 spare SSDs, it was too hard to figure out which drive was which :C Willing to get rid of those 4 SSDs? I could use some more

 

Id be willing to sell them but I will be taking the 5 drives out and upgrading my business PCs from platter Hard drive to the SSDs, It was one of the ways I could justify the cost. We only use the PCs for web based work and server stuff but it will be an improvement to our current POS setup when cache websites open documents, you know the usual SSD upgrade.

[TJPC]

Ill keep an Eye on the temps I did even know that was an issue but damn thats impressive for an SSD to thermal throttle. 

 

Im still at work Ill have some data transfer and first impressions tomorrow? 

[Enderman]

It doesn't have overheating issues.

You need to write at least around 150GB at once at 1.5GB per second to get the thing to thermal throttle. And because it thermal throttles it doesn't damage itself.

Thermal throttleing only occurs without any airflow. As long as he has good airflow he won't even notice a performance decrease.

if a storage device meant for reading and writing cannot do its job 24/7 at reasonable temperatures that's called "overheating issues"

 

and it thermal throttles because it gets too hot, which is detrimental to its life span

thermal throttling does not magically make the temperatures go down, it keeps them from going up and instantly killing the device

just because it throttles and keeps itself at some stupid temperature like 60C does not mean that it's perfectly fine and mean to run at those temperatures

 

and without a heatsink on it, airflow pretty much does nothing

put a fan on a CPU without any heatsink and see how that works out, lol

[TJPC]

ok so an Update, I am trying to install windows 7 then upgrade to windows 10 because that works for me, but when windows 7 asks what drive I would like to install window 7 into it did not give me the 950 as an option. intact it will not see the drives. Ive tried to mess around in the bios and no dice.... 

 

Im currently making a UEFI thumb drive with windows 10 on it but in the past this method of installation dose not work for me... 

 

to be clear in the bios I can see the 950 but its only when I try to select the drive for windows 10 to install is when the drive is hidden. I even checked for M.2 drivers to install but there are none...

 

 

suggestions, please?

[TJPC]

gigabyte ga-z97x-ud3h-bk

 

 

Mt mother board 

[jaaa1976]

ok so an Update, I am trying to install windows 7 then upgrade to windows 10 because that works for me, but when windows 7 asks what drive I would like to install window 7 into it did not give me the 950 as an option. intact it will not see the drives. Ive tried to mess around in the bios and no dice.... 

 

Im currently making a UEFI thumb drive with windows 10 on it but in the past this method of installation dose not work for me... 

 

to be clear in the bios I can see the 950 but its only when I try to select the drive for windows 10 to install is when the drive is hidden. I even checked for M.2 drivers to install but there are none...

 

 

suggestions, please?

try this method in link below ..but for me not working..I have 950 pro and EVGA Z170 FTW motherboard..Vhen I install windows 7 ..It also not give me as an options..only was able install on samsung 840 pro ssd ..so now i will try clone windows 7 partition to 950 Pro and will see if this will be possible.

 

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2817439/install-windows-x64-sm951-drive.html#16747080

[TJPC]

Ok at least I'm not alone on this I think its windows 7 just unable to recognize this new of a drive. 

 

I also have a Plextor m.2 to PCI adapter I tried that and nothing but Im going to try a different PC....

 

ugh new tech problems lol 

[TJPC]

I figured it out, it was the windows 7 OS. I used a UEFI thumb drive to install windows 10 and it saw the NVMe drive right away 

[jaaa1976]

I figured it out, it was the windows 7 OS. I used a UEFI thumb drive to install windows 10 and it saw the NVMe drive right away 

yes..windows 10 not problem..just windows 7 is more difficult install on evga z170 ftw

[TJPC]

Ok its installed but I think I did something wrong mt speeds are slow like 800mbps read and write

[Curufinwe_wins]

Ok its installed but I think I did something wrong mt speeds are slow like 800mbps read and write

Looks like you got pcie gen 2 (or the slot you have it running on is pcie 3.0x1) What is your mobo?

[TJPC]

gigabyte ga-z97x-ud3h-bk

 

that guy, its plugged directly into the mobo on the M.2 slot I cant find anything in the bios that would limit it but I think I'm over looking something

[Deli]

gigabyte ga-z97x-ud3h-bk

 

that guy, its plugged directly into the mobo on the M.2 slot I cant find anything in the bios that would limit it but I think I'm over looking something

Z97 chipset cannot use PCIe 3.0x4 for M.2. It is limited to speed of Sata Express 10Gb/s. You need a PCIe adapter plug into a PCIe 3.0 slot to get the maximum potential of the 950 Pro.