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It's what I read all the time. I don't see the meaning of that sentence. Here I am playing ARK and the memory usage is 5.8-5.9k mb pulling 45 fps on epic settings. Oh the game isn't optimized? Here I am playing GTA5 with everything maxed out pulling around 5000mb and up with 55-65 fps in the cities. Does this sound correct for gta5? 

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Yes, sound correct for GTA5.

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You see, games will use more vram if it is available. That doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary. Just like when people say 8gb of ram aren't enough for chrome because on their 16gb rig it uses 10gb, when I have 8gb and with 60 tabs open I still only use less than 5gb.

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You see, games will use more vram if it is available. That doesn't mean it's absolutely necessary. Just like when people say 8gb of ram aren't enough for chrome because on their 16gb rig it uses 10gb, when I have 8gb and with 60 tabs open I still only use less than 5gb.

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VRAM (and RAM whilst we're at it) usage scales with available resources (to a certain degree).

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Dont count ARK, the game is still on its first release state; meaning that it isnt stable at the moment. I have been playing the game with Titan X and the framerate is still shit.

 

GTA V on the other hand is optimized game, and a 980Ti won't be overkill if you plan to run everything on very high - ultra settings with 8x MSAA on 1920x1080 as it still wouldnt do 60fps.

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My VRAM usage in GTA V ultra settings running at 125% DSR is only around 3.5-4GB... not sure why yours is over 5GB. I get about 80 FPS average with these settings.

 

But whether something is overkill depends on your goal... for 1080P 60Hz I would say yeah a 980 Ti is probably overkill. There are a handful of games that have ridiculous requirements, but I don't think it's worth a $900 video card to play on max settings 1080P when you can have a really good looking high settings on a $250 video card at 1080P.

 

The 980 Ti is definitely for 1080P 144Hz or 2560x1440, 3440x1440 or 4K imo.

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My VRAM usage in GTA V ultra settings running at 125% DSR is only around 3.5-4GB... not sure why yours is over 5GB

This, I'm running GTA V on a 1440 P monitor absolutely everything maxed and I've never gone above 5Gb usage.

I've run out of GPU grunt long before I run into any VRAM issues.

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It's what I read all the time. I don't see the meaning of that sentence. Here I am playing ARK and the memory usage is 5.8-5.9k mb pulling 45 fps on epic settings. Oh the game isn't optimized? Here I am playing GTA5 with everything maxed out pulling around 5000mb and up with 55-65 fps in the cities. Does this sound correct for gta5? 

yes, the 980ti is IMHO completely overkill for 1080p gaming, look for an R9 290/290X/390/390X or GTX 780/780ti/970/980 max...my GTX780 is running games at 1440p farily well i can run anything on high fidelity and high framerates at 1080p.

I would get an R9 390, save money. Or get the 980ti and a good 1440p monitor! :)...even better!

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Yup, sounds about right... ARK still has some work to do, GTA has some settings that are known to kill frames, with Grass Quality and MSAA the larger contenders (also your CPU).

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No. It's not overkill if you use DSR. EVERYONE always forgets about DSR/VSR. It's a good tide-over until you can afford to upgrade your monitor. Games look better using DSR/VSR vs 1080 native (IMO). 

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This, I'm running GTA V on a 1440 P monitor absolutely everything maxed and I've never gone above 5Gb usage.

I've run out of GPU grunt long before I run into any VRAM issues.

I have ran out of vram lol when everything is maxed and advanced setting are all cranked when u hit the vram limit my frames drop from 130 to 80's which isn't bad but u get that stutter

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yes, the 980ti is IMHO completely overkill for 1080p gaming, look for an R9 290/290X/390/390X or GTX 780/780ti/970/980 max...my GTX780 is running games at 1440p farily well i can run anything on high fidelity and high framerates at 1080p.

I would get an R9 390, save money. Or get the 980ti and a good 1440p monitor! :)...even better!

I would definitely agree on this one 980ti is way overkill for 1080@60hz if I were to get a graphics card for those requirements I would take the R9 390/x very solid card for that with 8gb of vram its hard to go wrong or if our not an AMD guy you could go with the 970 and still be OK but I'd say go for the 390 good luck and happy gaming!

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It's what I read all the time. I don't see the meaning of that sentence. Here I am playing ARK and the memory usage is 5.8-5.9k mb pulling 45 fps on epic settings. Oh the game isn't optimized? Here I am playing GTA5 with everything maxed out pulling around 5000mb and up with 55-65 fps in the cities. Does this sound correct for gta5? 

GTAV has really been screwed up by Rockstar. Every patch it gets worse. My old 7950 could do it maxed out at 1080p with 2xAA at a near constant 60FPS at launch, now it can barely do it maxed.

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yes, the 980ti is IMHO completely overkill for 1080p gaming, look for an R9 290/290X/390/390X or GTX 780/780ti/970/980 max...my GTX780 is running games at 1440p farily well i can run anything on high fidelity and high framerates at 1080p.

I would get an R9 390, save money. Or get the 980ti and a good 1440p monitor! :)...even better!

Ahem... I aim for 144Hz at 1080p with all (or near) the bells and whistles enabled as I can, and it doesn't come close to maxing all the games out. Sure, there's some where I can easily hit my frame-rate cap but a majority I cannot.

 

So no, if you have a 144Hz 1080p monitor and want to aim as high as possible, 980 Ti is definitely not overkill. At 60Hz? Yes, I'd say most definitely.

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If I had an uber expensive gpu like the 980ti I would definitely invest in a 1440p monitor, it just looks leagues better and there isn't as much as a performance hit compared to 4k. Somebody could be maxing out most games at 1440p 60hz with a gpu less than half the price of your 980ti and they would be getting a better experience than you if you are only on 1080p 60hz. 

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Ahem... I aim for 144Hz at 1080p with all (or near) the bells and whistles enabled as I can, and it doesn't come close to maxing all the games out. Sure, there's some where I can easily hit my frame-rate cap but a majority I cannot.

 

So no, if you have a 144Hz 1080p monitor and want to aim as high as possible, 980 Ti is definitely not overkill. At 60Hz? Yes, I'd say most definitely.

use slightly less anti-aliaising and your framerates will skyrocket also 1440p with minimal AA looks miles better than even 16xMSAA 1080p...so i think you should consider investing in a better monitor ;)

 

If I had an uber expensive gpu like the 980ti I would definitely invest in a 1440p monitor, it just looks leagues better and there isn't as much as a performance hit compared to 4k. Somebody could be maxing out most games at 1440p 60hz with a gpu less than half the price of your 980ti and they would be getting a better experience than you if you are only on 1080p 60hz.

i use an highly overclocked GTX780 3GB and i can run any game on high fidelity and good framerates and the experience is indeed WORLDS better than anything 1080p has to offer. And it's Gsync on top of that so butter smooth. i was even able to play batman the arkham knight pretty well which is the most demanding game as of today (piss port)

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use slightly less anti-aliaising and your framerates will skyrocket also 1440p with minimal AA looks miles better than even 16xMSAA 1080p...so i think you should consider investing in a better monitor ;)

I'm not one to really ever lower settings. Even with 2x or 4x a majority of games still struggle to hit 144Hz. If I have a powerful card I'm going to make sure it is working hard. Even lowering settings on super demanding games (Crysis 3/GTAV) will never hit 144Hz. I basically try and aim the highest I can and get the most from my GPU. If I wanted to lower settings I'd buy a 750 Ti. ;)

 

And DSR is also another biggie for me at 1080p. :) Playing @ 1440p to give me an idea of what to expect from my new monitor upgrade. Still struggling between 1440p/4K. 4K 60Hz limit will probably make 1440p the easy choice.

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I'm not one to really ever lower settings. Even with 2x or 4x a majority of games still struggle to hit 144Hz. If I have a powerful card I'm going to make sure it is working hard. Even lowering settings on super demanding games (Crysis 3/GTAV) will never hit 144Hz. I basically try and aim the highest I can and get the most from my GPU. If I wanted to lower settings I'd buy a 750 Ti. ;)

 

And DSR is also another biggie for me at 1080p. :) Playing @ 1440p to give me an idea of what to expect from my new monitor upgrade. Still struggling between 1440p/4K. 4K 60Hz limit will probably make 1440p the easy choice.

ahhh yeah 1440p IPS Gsync is tha shit bro, but honestly i don,t know why you even want to hit 144FPS that bad...honestly i can't really tell the difference between 100FPS and 144FPS on my monitor...between 60FPS and 100FPS is a major jump in smootness but beyond that it won't change anything IMHO. Maybe without Gsync the difference would be more noticeable but with Gsync even 90FPS is butter smooth to be honest.

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ahhh yeah 1440p IPS Gsync is tha shit bro, but honestly i don,t know why you even want to hit 144FPS that bad...honestly i can't really tell the difference between 100FPS and 144FPS on my monitor...between 60FPS and 100FPS is a major jump in smootness but beyond that it won't change anything IMHO. Maybe without Gsync the difference would be more noticeable but with Gsync even 90FPS is butter smooth to be honest.

I've never experienced G-Sync but I know its fantastic. Ofc reading and watching videos of how it operates is great. Its a must have IMO.

 

I'm pretty perceptible to higher FPS. When I first got my monitor it was locked at 60Hz refresh rate. Later on I found out (from screen tearing when browsing the web) that I needed to change Windows display settings. Once I set it to my monitors native 144Hz refresh rate, everything was snappier, smoother and much more responsive. This wasn't a simple case of placebo, this was the real deal. The screen tearing was gone and everything was lightning quick after the change.

 

You may be right on after hitting 100+ FPS in-game, there might not be much difference between 100 and 144. I haven't tested it myself extensively but I suppose its a project to look forward to. :) I just have a bad habit of wanting everything maxed and everything having to hit 144Hz. I might need to tone that down some and be happy with 100+. Even 60+ is fine but I prefer over 100 if the circumstances allow.  What I CAN say is that browsing the web after the refresh change I certainly had a much much better experience. Browser no longer flickers, stutters or tears.

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I've never experienced G-Sync but I know its fantastic. Ofc reading and watching videos of how it operates is great. Its a must have IMO.

 

I'm pretty perceptible to higher FPS. When I first got my monitor it was locked at 60Hz refresh rate. Later on I found out (from screen tearing when browsing the web) that I needed to change Windows display settings. Once I set it to my monitors native 144Hz refresh rate, everything was snappier, smoother and much more responsive. This wasn't a simple case of placebo, this was the real deal. The screen tearing was gone and everything was lightning quick after the change.

 

You may be right on after hitting 100+ FPS in-game, there might not be much difference between 100 and 144. I haven't tested it myself extensively but I suppose its a project to look forward to. :) I just have a bad habit of wanting everything maxed and everything having to hit 144Hz. I might need to tone that down some and be happy with 100+. Even 60+ is fine but I prefer over 100 if the circumstances allow.  What I CAN say is that browsing the web after the refresh change I certainly had a much much better experience. Browser no longer flickers, stutters or tears.

the first time i moved the mouse and some windows around on my monitor i was in awe :o

 

If you can get your hands on a monitor similar to mine (new ASUS one coming soon) i'd do that, it's really worth it IMHO the gaming experience on this is fantastic.

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