Jump to content

With tech constantly changing and upgrading, what do you see as the future of the PC? Will the traditional layout of cpu, gpu, ram, and hard drive stay or will we see a blending of multiple pieces? As tech gets closer to the physical max speed of current materials do you think there will be an evolution into new exotic metals to allow data speeds to go higher then what they currently are able to???

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

modular parts will always be a thing. 

 

HDDs are going to be moving to HAMR soon, using new techniques to cram more onto the platters. 

 

i'm dreaming of multiphase transistors for use in CPUs of the future. 

companies are already using more than just silicon now, i've heard of them using germanium lately. 

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104642
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

as it stands, i dont see clock speeds going up much more, at the speed today's cpus run on (3+ GHz) electricity flows less than 10cm.

 

i do expect to see major changes in how a pc gets built. looking at the fury nano, the DESKTOP GTX980 in laptops, the crazy overclocking on skylake (on air!) and so on.

--

also, RAM and storage will continue to explode.

with skylake xeons we can *theoretically* get up to 6TB ram in one machine. (thats the max linux can handle btw. another really interesting thing to follow up.)

 

theres been mentions of insane SSD capacity, and insane HDD capacity as well.

2016 is also going to be a really interesting year storage wise, because SSDs seems to be getting cheaper and cheaper in terms of gigs/dollar as they evolve.

while hard drives seem to be getting stuck in terms of gigs/dollar with the sweet spot being 2TB (ignoring seagate's 3TB drives, i still dont trust those...)

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104662
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

as it stands, i dont see clock speeds going up much more, at the speed today's cpus run on (3+ GHz) electricity flows less than 10cm.

 

i do expect to see major changes in how a pc gets built. looking at the fury nano, the DESKTOP GTX980 in laptops, the crazy overclocking on skylake (on air!) and so on.

--

also, RAM and storage will continue to explode.

with skylake xeons we can *theoretically* get up to 6TB ram in one machine. (thats the max linux can handle btw. another really interesting thing to follow up.)

 

theres been mentions of insane SSD capacity, and insane HDD capacity as well.

2016 is also going to be a really interesting year storage wise, because SSDs seems to be getting cheaper and cheaper in terms of gigs/dollar as they evolve.

while hard drives seem to be getting stuck in terms of gigs/dollar with the sweet spot being 2TB (ignoring seagate's 3TB drives, i still dont trust those...)

i'm thinking the clock speeds will creep up over time, but we won't see a massive jump again unless we have another GHz war, which is unlikely because AMD is playing catch-up lately.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104709
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Things will continue to get smaller, more powerful and more energy efficient. 

 

Standards will change over time but that process is a slow one - especially if the current standard holds no limitation for it's function (PCIe gen 3 for example).

My Systems:

Main - Work + Gaming:

Spoiler

Woodland Raven: Ryzen 2700X // AMD Wraith RGB // Asus Prime X570-P // G.Skill 2x 8GB 3600MHz DDR4 // Radeon RX Vega 56 // Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB M.2 SSD // Deepcool DQ650-M // chassis build in progress // Windows 10 // Thrustmaster TMX + G27 pedals & shifter

F@H Rig:

Spoiler

FX-8350 // Deepcool Neptwin // MSI 970 Gaming // AData 2x 4GB 1600 DDR3 // 2x Gigabyte RX-570 4G's // Samsung 840 120GB SSD // Cooler Master V650 // Windows 10

 

HTPC:

Spoiler

SNES PC (HTPC): i3-4150 @3.5 // Gigabyte GA-H87N-Wifi // G.Skill 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 // Asus Dual GTX 1050Ti 4GB OC // AData SP600 128GB SSD // Pico 160XT PSU // Custom SNES Enclosure // 55" LG LED 1080p TV  // Logitech wireless touchpad-keyboard // Windows 10 // Build Log

Laptops:

Spoiler

MY DAILY: Lenovo ThinkPad T410 // 14" 1440x900 // i5-540M 2.5GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD iGPU + Quadro NVS 3100M 512MB dGPU // 2x4GB DDR3L 1066 // Mushkin Triactor 480GB SSD // Windows 10

 

WIFE'S: Dell Latitude E5450 // 14" 1366x768 // i5-5300U 2.3GHz Dual-Core HT // Intel HD5500 // 2x4GB RAM DDR3L 1600 // 500GB 7200 HDD // Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon

 

EXPERIMENTAL: Pinebook // 11.6" 1080p // Manjaro KDE (ARM)

NAS:

Spoiler

Home NAS: Pentium G4400 @3.3 // Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 // 2x 4GB DDR4 2400 // Intel HD Graphics // Kingston A400 120GB SSD // 3x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200 HDDs in RAID-Z // Cooler Master Silent Pro M 1000w PSU // Antec Performance Plus 1080AMG // FreeNAS OS

 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104727
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i'm thinking the clock speeds will creep up over time, but we won't see a massive jump again unless we have another GHz war, which is unlikely because AMD is playing catch-up lately.

or until quantum CPUs become usable and useful for the general public. (which is probably a long way off)

Aftermarket 980Ti >= Fury X >= Reference 980Ti > Fury > 980 > 390X > 390 >= 970 380X > 380 >= 960 > 950 >= 370 > 750Ti = 360

"The Orange Box" || CPU: i5 4690k || RAM: Kingston Hyper X Fury 16GB || Case: Aerocool DS200 (Orange) || Cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate || Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB + WD Black 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM750 || Mobo: ASUS Z97-A || GPU: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+

"Unnamed Form Factor Switch" || CPU: i7 6700K || RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB || Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Mini ITX (White) || Cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate (Green Cover) || Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 1TB || PSU: XFX XTR 550W || Mobo: ASUS Z170I Pro Gaming || GPU: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104755
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i'm thinking the clock speeds will creep up over time, but we won't see a massive jump again unless we have another GHz war, which is unlikely because AMD is playing catch-up lately.

well, they may still go up a bit, but a teacher i had in college came with an interesting fact.

 

if we ever get 30GHz parts, a signal wont make it from one side of a cpu die to the other within one clock pulse.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104773
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

well, they may still go up a bit, but a teacher i had in college came with an interesting fact.

 

if we ever get 30GHz parts, a signal wont make it from one side of a cpu die to the other within one clock pulse.

what about a CPU equivalent of RAID 0? (that's actually quite an interesting concept, it just popped into my head)

Aftermarket 980Ti >= Fury X >= Reference 980Ti > Fury > 980 > 390X > 390 >= 970 380X > 380 >= 960 > 950 >= 370 > 750Ti = 360

"The Orange Box" || CPU: i5 4690k || RAM: Kingston Hyper X Fury 16GB || Case: Aerocool DS200 (Orange) || Cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate || Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 240GB + WD Black 1TB || PSU: Corsair RM750 || Mobo: ASUS Z97-A || GPU: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+

"Unnamed Form Factor Switch" || CPU: i7 6700K || RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB || Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Mini ITX (White) || Cooler: Cryorig R1 Ultimate (Green Cover) || Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 1TB || PSU: XFX XTR 550W || Mobo: ASUS Z170I Pro Gaming || GPU: EVGA GTX 970 FTW+

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104807
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

what about a CPU equivalent of RAID 0? (that's actually quite an interesting concept, it just popped into my head)

thats called multi-threaded workloads.

and some devs dont understand how nice it is to have that...

 

you cant *really* use two cores together to do one thread, because in a lot of cases the next calculation requires the outcome of the last one.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104856
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

well, they may still go up a bit, but a teacher i had in college came with an interesting fact.

 

if we ever get 30GHz parts, a signal wont make it from one side of a cpu die to the other within one clock pulse.

Could work with photons though. (But that is far off)

 

I think most GPUs will become irrelevant since CPU graphics cores will be that good. 

 

Spoiler

CPU:Intel Xeon X5660 @ 4.2 GHz RAM:6x2 GB 1600MHz DDR3 MB:Asus P6T Deluxe GPU:Asus GTX 660 TI OC Cooler:Akasa Nero 3


SSD:OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB HDD:2x640 GB WD Black Fans:2xCorsair AF 120 PSU:Seasonic 450 W 80+ Case:Thermaltake Xaser VI MX OS:Windows 10
Speakers:Altec Lansing MX5021 Keyboard:Razer Blackwidow 2013 Mouse:Logitech MX Master Monitor:Dell U2412M Headphones: Logitech G430

Big thanks to Damikiller37 for making me an awesome Intel 4004 out of trixels!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104876
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Could work with photons though. (But that is far off)

 

I think most GPUs will become irrelevant since CPU graphics cores will be that good. 

i think you're wrong there, on both lines.

 

- electricity *theoretically* flows at the speed of light, so that wont solve the latency issue.

photons may end up being better heat-wise, and such also power-wise.

 

- cpu graphics will improve MINDBLOWINGLY, but so will dedicated GPUs, and them being on a seperate die, entirely to themselves will ALWAYS be a benefit that integrated graphics/APUs will have issues with.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104905
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

well, they may still go up a bit, but a teacher i had in college came with an interesting fact.

 

if we ever get 30GHz parts, a signal wont make it from one side of a cpu die to the other within one clock pulse.

if we get to 30GHz it might have a further distance to travel.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104939
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i think you're wrong there, on both lines.

 

- electricity *theoretically* flows at the speed of light, so that wont solve the latency issue.

photons may end up being better heat-wise, and such also power-wise.

 

- cpu graphics will improve MINDBLOWINGLY, but so will dedicated GPUs, and them being on a seperate die, entirely to themselves will ALWAYS be a benefit that integrated graphics/APUs will have issues with.

The movement of electrons in typical conductors is actually extremely slow. 

As for GPUs, I think that people who won't mind playing games at 1080p/whatever will be the standard resolution in a few years, would rather save a few $$$. That is not to say GPUs will die, just that anything below a GTX 950 class GPU will be totally irrelevant. 

 

Spoiler

CPU:Intel Xeon X5660 @ 4.2 GHz RAM:6x2 GB 1600MHz DDR3 MB:Asus P6T Deluxe GPU:Asus GTX 660 TI OC Cooler:Akasa Nero 3


SSD:OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB HDD:2x640 GB WD Black Fans:2xCorsair AF 120 PSU:Seasonic 450 W 80+ Case:Thermaltake Xaser VI MX OS:Windows 10
Speakers:Altec Lansing MX5021 Keyboard:Razer Blackwidow 2013 Mouse:Logitech MX Master Monitor:Dell U2412M Headphones: Logitech G430

Big thanks to Damikiller37 for making me an awesome Intel 4004 out of trixels!

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104945
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

we cant change the speed of light. and unless we find a way to make electricity flow faster, we're out of luck.

microwormholes in our CPU.

We can't Benchmark like we used to, but we have our ways. One trick is to shove more GPUs in your computer. Like the time I needed to NV-Link, because I needed a higher HeavenBench score, so I did an SLI, which is what they called NV-Link back in the day. So, I decided to put two GPUs in my computer, which was the style at the time. Now, to add another GPU to your computer, costs a new PSU. Now in those days PSUs said OCZ on them, "Gimme 750W OCZs for an SLI" you'd say. Now where were we? Oh yeah, the important thing was that I had two GPUs in my rig, which was the style at the time! They didn't have RGB PSUs at the time, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big green ones. 

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6104971
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

All I really plan to do in the future with my PC (or at least the foreseeable future) is add more storage and upgrade my graphics solution. Come 2016, I dont know if this 770 will be able to keep up :( My 4690K will hopefully get me a good 5 more years if Im lucky.

I wanna see what the Pascal scene will look like because that will likely be my next upgrade, and I wanna add another SSD and HDD.

 

In terms of tech I hope to see coming -

VR (for fuck sake Ive been waiting forever)

New camera stuff (like new sensors and cool tech)

More innovative home based technology

More high pixel density, efficient, and slim laptops (although the current rMBP kinda nails them all)

I want 3D printing to become more affordable, definitely seems like something that every household should be able to have

More power electric sports cars, and normal ones cuz people are into that kinda stuff

 

Ill come back to this if I see it catches on and I think of more stuff.

4690K // 212 EVO // Z97-PRO // Vengeance 16GB // GTX 770 GTX 970 // MX100 128GB // Toshiba 1TB // Air 540 // HX650

Logitech G502 RGB // Corsair K65 RGB (MX Red)

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6106014
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Honestly? If you look at the evolution of the PC over the last 40 years nothing has really changed drastically. Monitors have changed for more than the computer itself. So I see peripherals having a larger impact on our hobby than the next processor.

If anyone asks you never saw me.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6106057
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

All I really plan to do in the future with my PC (or at least the foreseeable future) is add more storage and upgrade my graphics solution. Come 2016, I dont know if this 770 will be able to keep up :( My 4690K will hopefully get me a good 5 more years if Im lucky.

I wanna see what the Pascal scene will look like because that will likely be my next upgrade, and I wanna add another SSD and HDD.

In terms of tech I hope to see coming -

VR (for fuck sake Ive been waiting forever)

New camera stuff (like new sensors and cool tech)

More innovative home based technology

More high pixel density, efficient, and slim laptops (although the current rMBP kinda nails them all)

I want 3D printing to become more affordable, definitely seems like something that every household should be able to have

More power electric sports cars, and normal ones cuz people are into that kinda stuff

Ill come back to this if I see it catches on and I think of more stuff.

I like the 3D printing idea:) like have prices drop to the point you are able to buy a regular printer and a 3D printer. I would love to see homes being able to print there own furniture ect.

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6106083
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

i think the full tower pc will die out because people will want smaller computers like in like 25 years apu's and igpu's might be strong enough to run games. this will eventually lead to stuff like the gigabyte brix style machines.

LOOK AT MY NEW FLAG DESIGNS FOR PA AND VOTE ON YOUR FAVORITE

LOOK AT MY FIRST BATCH OF DESIGNS HERE

 

 

 

 

 

4690K @ 4.5GHz

GTX 970 FTW

MSI Z97 PC MATE

Define R5 windowed

Cooler Master Seidon 240m

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1

Kingston 120gb SSD

SanDisk 480Gb SSD

Seagate 1Tb Hard drive

Link to comment
https://linustechtips.com/topic/455014-future-of-pcs/#findComment-6109388
Share on other sites

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×