R9 390 or GTX 970?

[olback]

I am buying a new case, the Define R5.

It would like to put a new gpu in it aswell. So, the R9 390 or the 970? I plan on playing all my games @1080 and my budget is 400€

(btw i live in Sweden, where everything is overpriced)

[MrChavelo]

390

[Mikjul]

390 in most cases wins out the 970, plus it can make use of it's 8GB of Vram in a crossfire scenario at higher settings/resolution.

[Aytex]

390

[werto165]

390 however if you're going to be playing MSG:V I would get the 970 as it comes with it free I think still. 

[olback]

Well, i guess I'm getting a 390

Thx guys

[Aytex]

Well, i guess I'm getting a 390

Thx guys

get a sapphire or MSI card

[olback]

get a sapphire or MSI card

Planning on getting the Asus Strix one

[Aytex]

Planning on getting the Asus Strix one

oh hell nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bad bad cooling

sapphire or msi or u gonna get bad temps

 

although gigabyte is another good alternative

[olback]

oh hell nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bad bad cooling

sapphire or msi or u gonna get 1000000000000000000000000c temps

 

although gigabyte is another good alternative

[Aytex]

my point is. Asus makes bad coolers for AMD

if you want the best clock speeds/OCing

go for a MSI/GIgabyte/Prefreerbly Sapphire though

[olback]

my point is. Asus makes bad coolers for AMD

if you want the best clock speeds/OCing

go for a MSI/GIgabyte/Prefreerbly Sapphire though

Thanks for the advice, i'll look in to it

[KemoKa]

oh hell nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bad bad cooling

aren't you thinking of the terribleness that was DCU II paired with a 290X? DCU III is a redesigned cooler, performs a lot better now, I think.

[iFap4Nvidia]

Just going to say.

390 > 970

390x > 980

 

970 > 290

980 > 290x

[Curufinwe_wins]

Just going to say.

390 > 970

390x > 980

970 > 290

980 > 290x

980>390x>390~290x~970>290

That said 390 is duh unless you can't provide sufficient airflow to keep it cool.

[Nena Trinity]

390 is best in my humble opinion! :3

[Prysin]

Radeon R9 390

 

"best" brands

Sapphire Nitro

MSI Gaming

Powercolor PCS+

XFX Double Dissipation

 

do not buy Asus cards!!!!

[Prysin]

That said 390 is duh unless you can't provide sufficient airflow to keep it cool.

that goes for any high end graphics card, and it highly depends on the version

Sapphire Nitro wouldnt struggle that much with shit airflow. XFX and MSI might...

 

Nvidia cards would barely get any benefit from GPU boost without proper ventilation....

Bad GPU boost - 390 would just walk all over the GTX card....

Good GPU boost - GTX card keeps up or beats the 390 in some games.

[Curufinwe_wins]

that goes for any high end graphics card, and it highly depends on the version

Sapphire Nitro wouldnt struggle that much with shit airflow. XFX and MSI might...

Nvidia cards would barely get any benefit from GPU boost without proper ventilation....

Bad GPU boost - 390 would just walk all over the GTX card....

Good GPU boost - GTX card keeps up or beats the 390 in some games.

Yes... But cooling a 145-185W card is obviously way way easier than cooling a 250-290W card.

It's much more of a factor in cf however.

Not a big deal in single but some people still come on the forums bitching about their cards when their case temps are absoltely awful.

[Prysin]

Yes... But cooling a 145-185W card is obviously way way easier than cooling a 250-290W card.

It's much more of a factor in cf however.

Not a big deal in single but some people still come on the forums bitching about their cards when their case temps are absoltely awful.

cooling of any card, what so ever, is entirely down to the cooler being used...

 

the Nitro cooler is good for around 475-550w.... how much do you think you can push out on a ACX2.0??? 350w? 400w??? not much more...

 

You must also remember that any TDP is "peak" numbers... meaning the max they can hit, not what the GPU will sustain.... So when the R9 290X says 300w TDP, then realistically that is 300w during 100% load... very few games, unless you are at 4k or playing some terribly unoptimized shit, will stress your GPU that hard...

[xAcid9]

my point is. Asus makes bad coolers for AMD

if you want the best clock speeds/OCing

go for a MSI/GIgabyte/Prefreerbly Sapphire though

I thought Giga cooler for the 390 series is shite? Not too mention voltage locked.

[olback]

K, going with the MSI version then..

[Curufinwe_wins]

cooling of any card, what so ever, is entirely down to the cooler being used...

 

the Nitro cooler is good for around 475-550w.... how much do you think you can push out on a ACX2.0??? 350w? 400w??? not much more...

 

You must also remember that any TDP is "peak" numbers... meaning the max they can hit, not what the GPU will sustain.... So when the R9 290X says 300w TDP, then realistically that is 300w during 100% load... very few games, unless you are at 4k or playing some terribly unoptimized shit, will stress your GPU that hard...

Look, I'm not saying it is a negative on the 390, it's kinda just a point I think does need mentioning.

 

I agree ACX 2.0 is shit, I have been telling people for ages not to buy it for the 980ti. The point is even if you have a cooler that can handle it, you still need the airflow to move the heat out of  the case (assuming it isn't an itx direct exhaust), and you need quite a bit more of it for a hawaii gpu than for the 970. That was literally all I was saying.

 

Also it really isn't peak power, but that is a different issue that I wasn't going for. Either way the 970 generally consumes about 70-100 W less than the 390 and as a result needs less cooling and airflow to keep it's temps down. That's the only thing I was going for.