HTC stock value below its cash holdings rendering them "worthless"

[vetali]

HTC was doomed long ago from what I read. The One kept them on life support. 

[Jerakl]

Keep in mind analysts being right is a blue moon occurrence.

 

HTC is going down tho

[PortentousLad]

I'll buy'em! I'll give them 10 bucks for the company.

[HarmFull]

Poor htc, they make great phones yet too many people are hooked on Samsungs with their terrible touchwiz.

[snes]

I have the M7 too.  solid, but I have had some battery issues

HTC always had shitty battery life. What made things worse is that they brought sealed in batteries to the Android scene when they released their ONE X phone.

 

That and the Desire HD ICS drama broke their neck. The sub-par cameras were nothing but the final nail. I'm still using my almost 5 year old Desire HD (with a custom rom) but don't feel sorry for them anymore.

Also, I still feel that their front facing speakers make the phones (especially the M8 and M9) look ugly as hell.

[Pumcy]

2 whole pages and not one person has mentioned the HTC Vive which will be released in the coming months. 

First to market virtual reality headset, with the ability to walk around in VR. Many people who have tried it and the Oculus say that HTC's setup is much more convincing. 
 

HTC isn't going anywhere. They have to make some changes, but I'm pretty sure the company will be transitioning to virtual reality as it's bread and butter over the coming years. VR, even if you aren't convinced yet, is going to be a MASSIVE market, and being first to retail is going to go a long way for HTC. 

[XYrZbest]

Unless they do something like how they came back with the M7, they're going to be done for.

yep they need another m7

[dalekphalm]

2 whole pages and not one person has mentioned the HTC Vive which will be released in the coming months. 

First to market virtual reality headset, with the ability to walk around in VR. Many people who have tried it and the Oculus say that HTC's setup is much more convincing. 

 

HTC isn't going anywhere. They have to make some changes, but I'm pretty sure the company will be transitioning to virtual reality as it's bread and butter over the coming years. VR, even if you aren't convinced yet, is going to be a MASSIVE market, and being first to retail is going to go a long way for HTC. 

While the Vive is really interesting and promising for VR - VR is still incredibly niche. Not very many people are going to go out and buy one.

 

Although, it might be enough to save them as a company, depending on price per unit, and profit per sale.

[LAwLz]

While the Vive is really interesting and promising for VR - VR is still incredibly niche. Not very many people are going to go out and buy one.

 

Although, it might be enough to save them as a company, depending on price per unit, and profit per sale.

And even if the Vive is a good product, its faith will be completely in the hands of the developers to support it.

If developers choose to go put all their efforts into support the Oculus Rift and then don't bother with the Vive, then there is nothing HTC and Valve can do about it.

[Kingofpants]

still worth more than AMD

AMD has a much greater chance to survive, they aren't facing market saturation. Infact they are in duopolys in GPUs and CPUs.

[PudgyAstronaut]

My M8 has been amazing.  I'll miss them, but I guess it just means to hop on the LG or One-Plus train.

 

Or Motorolla, considering their 2015 lineup.

[Pumcy]

And even if the Vive is a good product, its faith will be completely in the hands of the developers to support it.

If developers choose to go put all their efforts into support the Oculus Rift and then don't bother with the Vive, then there is nothing HTC and Valve can do about it.

 

Oculus is a an open platform. 

Developers only have to support VR, to support all headsets. 

each one has it's own features, but the core VR rendering technology is universal accross the board. Also, lighthouse is being offered to other headset makers, and FOVE has already vowed to make use of it. 

VR is niche, but not nearly as much as many people think. Once it's available to try (and Oculus and HTC have both said it will be demoed in stores) poeple will jump in.

It's only going to take a year before there's major traction in VR, i'm certain of it. (i've been playing with both Rifts for a while now). 

[LAwLz]

Oculus is a an open platform. 

Developers only have to support VR, to support all headsets. 

each one has it's own features, but the core VR rendering technology is universal accross the board. Also, lighthouse is being offered to other headset makers, and FOVE has already vowed to make use of it. 

VR is niche, but not nearly as much as many people think. Once it's available to try (and Oculus and HTC have both said it will be demoed in stores) poeple will jump in.

It's only going to take a year before there's major traction in VR, i'm certain of it. (i've been playing with both Rifts for a while now). 

So what you are saying is that if you develop the game using the Oculus PC SDK, you won't have to do any changes and it will still run on Vive as intended?

I find that hard to believe but if it's true then that's great.

[Kamina]

...and it crashed. 

[DildorTheDecent]

I quite liked my HTC One X. 

 

You know, the One before the M7. 

 

Tegra let it down though. 

[Overkilled]

I've had five HTC phones and I'm 14 idk how I'm gonna buy a Samsung when they're gone I always loved HTCs. Currently got the M8

[dalekphalm]

I've had five HTC phones and I'm 14 idk how I'm gonna buy a Samsung when they're gone I always loved HTCs. Currently got the M8

Holy crap, how have you had five HTC phones by 14? Were some of them "Feature Phones"?

[Overkilled]

Holy crap, how have you had five HTC phones by 14? Were some of them "Feature Phones"?

HTC wildlife,HTC incredible S, HTC Desire x, HTC one x, HTC one m8. Besides from a blackberry I used for a few weeks when my phone broke a couple of years ago I stuck to HTC

[dalekphalm]

HTC wildlife,HTC incredible S, HTC Desire x, HTC one x, HTC one m8. Besides from a blackberry I used for a few weeks when my phone broke a couple of years ago I stuck to HTC

Damn - when did you first get a smartphone? The Wildfire (I assume you made a typo, since HTC Wildlife has no search results - unless it's a European model only) came out in 2010 - you would have been 9 years old.

 

You've seriously went through 5 smartphones? Are your parents buying them for you, or are you saving up and buying them yourself?

[Overkilled]

Damn - when did you first get a smartphone? The Wildfire (I assume you made a typo, since HTC Wildlife has no search results - unless it's a European model only) came out in 2010 - you would have been 9 years old.

 

You've seriously went through 5 smartphones? Are your parents buying them for you, or are you saving up and buying them yourself?

my phone has auto correct. That was my first smartphone but then my friend got a wildfire S so I had to one up him. I got my iPad 1 Christmas that year as well.

I saved up for my incredible S and one X mid contract, I got my one m8 Christmas this year wish I just waited for the one M9.

[Overkilled]

Damn - when did you first get a smartphone? The Wildfire (I assume you made a typo, since HTC Wildlife has no search results - unless it's a European model only) came out in 2010 - you would have been 9 years old.

 

You've seriously went through 5 smartphones? Are your parents buying them for you, or are you saving up and buying them yourself?

oh and usually it's because they broke, I replaced my wildfire because my friend got a wildfire S. The incredible S had something was wrong with the signal. I kept it until my contract for the wildlife ran out and got a desire x that came with beats solo's but the screen cracked after a like a few months do I bought a one x on the wrong network that couldn't be unlocked for shot but I kept it because I think it was the most powerful phone at the time until my contract out for my desire x at Christmas 2014.

I cracked my brand new m8 with in a few months and still haven't got round to fixing it

[dalekphalm]

oh and usually it's because they broke, I replaced my wildfire because my friend got a wildfire S. The incredible S had something was wrong with the signal. I kept it until my contract for the wildlife ran out and got a desire x that came with beats solo's but the screen cracked after a like a few months do I bought a one x on the wrong network that couldn't be unlocked for shot but I kept it because I think it was the most powerful phone at the time until my contract out for my desire x at Christmas 2014.

I cracked my brand new m8 with in a few months and still haven't got round to fixing it

You should be more careful with your phones

[Overkilled]

You should be more careful with your phones

it's not intentional someone else knocked it out my hands with there arm by accident.

[snes]

WoW , another Desire HD warrior mine is still going strong too , had a battery change but other than that hasn't budged.

Yeah, I have 5.1.1 on mine and I'm still not sure what to upgrade to.

[Pumcy]

So what you are saying is that if you develop the game using the Oculus PC SDK, you won't have to do any changes and it will still run on Vive as intended?

I find that hard to believe but if it's true then that's great.

 

There's bound to be specific needs for each headset, but it should be easier that most expect to make it work with both.