David Cameron's "anti-encryption" bill

[Shakaza]

Um, this is weird. What I'd like to know is the wording of this bill, and the justification the government has for this.

[deviant88]

UK is going a weird path, complete block/censor/no privacy internet, they also want to quit UE, doesnt look good to me this country, its getting worse than US now.

[SPG]

-please remove this-

[FatPenguin]

east 

west

[brokencross]

Wow move to the US for full access to the internet.

HA.

[cox1000]

'Them services don't let me snoop on their customers, so I'm going to ban them like the angry kid I am'

I heard somewhere that David cameron attacked the concept of encryption. With people like this leading the country, I am scared of where we are going. The only political party to make a comment about surveillance and such has been UKIP, read into that as you will.

[sof006]

Lol, good luck banning it! Considering everyone uses it. I hope the idiot in charge realises that its him against an army of people who use whatsapp. If he "bans" it then people will either find a way to unban it or do everything they can to revolt against censorship.

[DigitalHermit]

GB citizens should switch to yo...

 

or go all morse code + enigma on them...

[Guest]

The main problem is that most people either don't have a good enough technological understanding, or are not interested in politics enough to care. It is really quite surprising how much the government can get away with (eg. NSA, GCHQ).

 

It's not that they don't care, but what can we do? Take the government to court? Sue them? Riot? No matter what, it's not longer the elected and the electors, but the dictated and the dictators. 

[Fassive]

why would they...

[EpicAdom]

Lol, good luck banning it! Considering everyone uses it. I hope the idiot in charge realises that its him against an army of people who use whatsapp. If he "bans" it then people will either find a way to unban it or do everything they can to revolt against censorship.

VPN + this stupid ass law = rekt

[cox1000]

It's not that they don't care, but what can we do? Take the government to court? Sue them? Riot? No matter what, it's not longer the elected and the electors, but the dictated and the dictators. 

 

We can remove them, and then a party that wants to get elected, will acknowledge what people want and deliver it. Or at least, that is how our democracy supposed to work. 

[SubterraneanSun]

VPN + this stupid ass law = rekt

It's not that simple, unfortunately. specially for non techies.

[dfsdfgfkjsefoiqzemnd]

Perhaps some black hats should unite and show Cameron what a world without encryption looks like.  They can start with this mailboxes and all personal info, then that of the rest of the idiots in charge ...

[Guest]

We can remove them, and then a party that wants to get elected, will acknowledge what people want and deliver it. Or at least, that is how our democracy supposed to work. 

 

My problem with politicians, is that they always claim to acknowledge what people want, yet they never do actually deliver it. I don't know much about politics, so i should probably opt myself out of this discussions 

[Kurosaki Isshin]

Um, this is weird. What I'd like to know is the wording of this bill, and the justification the government has for this.

 

wording of the bill is irrelevant. those words are a means to an end, and the end is quite clear. "We want all your private information, no matter how invasive"

the justification? One word: "Terrorism"

 

disgusting.

[othertomperson]

If you voted Tory, you voted for this. David Cameron hasn't been making these moves in secret.

[Guest]

I get the security part and I think it's a great idea, but banning these apps will cause mayhem in Britain. Unless they make some kind of service or leeway for the users then I think it's simply a stupid idea that will hinder progress

[cox1000]

My problem with politicians, is that they always claim to acknowledge what people want, yet they never do actually deliver it. I don't know much about politics, so i should probably opt myself out of this discussions 

Yeah, but then so few people care that it isn't really picked up on. This is beginning to look like a downward spiral.

[Murdoch]

Sensationalist. They will not ban these services. There's two possibilities here, firstly the most likely situtaion is they will aim to force companies like Facebook to hand over the keys for their encryption, or indeed force them to implement keys. Or Secondly, after a "bill" is passed in the House of Commons, it goes through a sort of "scrutiny" stage in the House of Lords, who are unelected, but are generally shrewd enough to question pieces of unworkable legislation. And can amend such legislation. There will also be a push back from a lot of civil rights bodies, and the tech industry. There's no way the Snoopers charter passes into law in it's current form.

 

Not to mention the Conservatives have a tiny majority, so passing this is going to be a challenge. Unless ofc Labour decide to once again make themselves unelectable and also vote it through.

[jaggysnake57]

If you voted Tory, you voted for this. David Cameron hasn't been making these moves in secret.

 

i feel alot of people got brainwashed into to thinking a labour/SNP colalition was terable and yet the "party for the hard working" have just shafted a load of hardworking people in the budget.

 

 

 

Not to mention the Conservatives have a tiny majority, so passing this is going to be a challenge. Unless ofc Labour decide to once again make themselves unelectable and also vote it through.

 

its impossible to implement and yeah the slim lead the tories have will make this harder to get through.

[Trik'Stari]

Have fun trying to enforce it, buncha morons

[Murdoch]

i feel alot of people got brainwashed into to thinking a labour/SNP colalition was terable and yet the "party for the hard working" have just shafted a load of hardworking people in the budget.

 

I spoke to a lot of Labour supporters in England before the GE, and even they were terrified of SNP influence. I can't believe more people didn't see through the fairly obvious Tory tactics of playing up the SNP influence on Labour and the "chaos" that would be a Labour-SNP coalition (which was never going to happen). And the tactic of repeatedly implying that Labour's actions directly caused the financial crisis of 2008.

 

The more you see these kind of things happen, the more it hardens the idea that the general population are easily led fucking idiots. Which is why the last thing we need is more spying, because if they are easily controlled and manipulated now, think what it might be like in the future.

 

Also, If you had asked the average voter about their party's stance on the Snoopers charter, I'm guessing upwards of 90% would have been clueless. For the record, the SNP had written quite clearly in their manifesto, that they would oppose this bill.

[jaggysnake57]

I spoke to a lot of Labour supporters in England before the GE, and even they were terrified of SNP influence. I can't believe more people didn't see through the fairly obvious Tory tactics of playing up the SNP influence on Labour and the "chaos" that would be a Labour-SNP coalition (which was never going to happen). And the tactic of repeatedly implying that Labour's actions directly caused the financial crisis of 2008.

 

The more you see these kind of things happen, the more it hardens the idea that the general population are easily led fucking idiots. Which is why the last thing we need is more spying, because if they are easily controlled and manipulated now, think what it might be like in the future.

 

Also, If you had asked the average voter about their party's stance on the Snoopers charter, I'm guessing upwards of 90% would have been clueless. For the record, the SNP had written quite clearly in their manifesto, that they would oppose this bill.

 

the SNP were no threat. people failed to see just how opposed to the tories the SNP were and would not want to do anyting to give them power.   like you said, fucking sheep.  play the imagrants or benifets card and look how people jump.

[Entropy]

The US: somehow less terrible than the UK