How do you feel about AMD?

[maizenblue]

On the GPU side I think AMD is fine, although they've struggled some recently I still think they offer better price to performance. That's not to say im blown away by their 300 series, but its solid enough price performance wise to keep them in the game, and the Fury series at least has the potential to be a game changer for them, although the jury is still out.

 

I just don't think Nvidia can make cheap and midrange GPUs without putting out total crap and cutting corners on some important things, whereas AMD consistently puts out a good product for the price at all levels.

 

On the CPU side everyone likes to bash AMD, but I think they still have a useful niche. They are the cheaper alternative to Intel. If you need a cheap laptop or desktop AMD serves the purpose. I bought a cheapo laptop with an AMD processor to get me through college when my expensive ROG gamers I5 laptop took a shit on me at the worst possible time, and it performed surprisingly well for what I paid.

 

 I wouldn't consider an AMD processor for a gaming rig though.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Honestly. They've got balls to rebrand the whole 300 series. But this confirmed one thing for me, the 290x has never reached it's true potential till now.

Gotta hand it to whomever predicted the performance of 900 Geforce cards. By completing their whole line up of 300 series cards much earlier and carefully slotting them among the 200 series. The engineering team was able to fully focus on refining the fiji architecture and adding minor tweaks to the 300 series. Based on reviews, we have seen that even the 390x can rival the 980, the 380 rivals 960 and the r7 370 is faster than the 750 Ti. This was probably the best route to take with AMD's limited resources.

[Sakkura]

I meant 7870.

 

Well the 7870 did not become the 370. So... yeah.

[Aphala]

http://wccftech.com/amd-fury-x-tested-12k-60fps/< If this IS true then holy shit nuggets...

 

But Fury series is probably the only thing they have going and I will be buying one along with a 4K monitor so I want to see if they allow custom Watercooling from Sapphire and the likes.

 

Please AMD don't become an hero by fucking this up D:

[Godlygamer23]

Well the 7870 did not become the 370. So... yeah.

Did some further research. This is what I found. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r7_370_strix_review,3.html

 

I may have misinterpreted Tom's Hardware's review where they said PItcairn was used in the 7850, 270, and now the R7 370. The R7 370 is a re-branded 7850.. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-r9-390x-r9-380-r7-370,4178.html

[Manny Calavera]

I am sure about my post.

Understand that AMD does not need anything more than these old GPUs in order to beat NVIDIA lower midrange on performance. That's why they rebrand. An old midrange GPU like the 7870 is all that AMD needs to outperform the 750ti Maxwell.

"AMD never fails to deliver stellar budget graphics cards, and have been doing so for over a decade"

 

Radeon HD 7850 Mar 19, 2012

20. july 2015. Hoorah, rebrand of 3 year old card! And will stay here until they release 400 series.

 

Nvidia can sit on their butts now. They can drop 960 price to 150$ and still have great margins. 960 sells for 200 freaking bucks. same as 760 ages ago

 

This is why nvidia is profitable. And AMD is saved by premium on nvidia gpus so people buy AMD products.

Theoretically, if amd had 400 series now with like normal architecture jump, we would see prices lower by like 30% for example. 960 would not launch at 200$ for example but at 160/170$. 

Remember nvidia is moving chips up so 960 should actually be lower number. So you dont get discracted by older 660/760 launch prices, those are GK104, 960 is GK206.

 

So yeaaaa... we should now be getting 970 for 200 bucks. If AMD was competitive.

[Nena Trinity]

AMD is fine, Nvidia is fine. Intel is best at CPUs but they never make forward or backward compatible CPUs. So they are kinda on the douchy side but their laptop CPUs are awesome!

 

Also the i7 has no AMD equal... Yet. 

 

I kinda do not like the AMD GPUs due to poor Linux driver support and well you know they messed up when a 290 is weaker than a 960...

 

You are not allowed to use that image extension on this community.

 

Well cannot show the image of a benchmark? WHY?

 

Edit:

Okay link then...

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdnv-phoronix-11&num=3

[Humbug]

I kinda do not like the AMD GPUs due to poor Linux driver support and well you know they messed up when a 290 is weaker than a 960...

I wonder whether they plan to ever fix the openGL performance. They probably don't care enough because hardly any windows games use it (only idtech games). Sad. I have been very critical of AMD on this.

Maybe also know that they know that their linux problems will be fixed with Vulkan they won't divert resources to openGL...

[Nena Trinity]

I wonder whether they plan to ever fix the openGL performance. They probably don't care enough because hardly any windows games use it (only idtech games). Sad. I have been very critical of AMD on this.

Maybe also know that they know that their linux problems will be fixed with Vulkan they won't divert resources to openGL...

And that takes to long... I rather wait for DX12! Oh wait that will take some time to but not as long...

[Humbug]

"AMD never fails to deliver stellar budget graphics cards, and have been doing so for over a decade"

Wrong. Blatant misinformation you are posting to try and make out that AMD is only good for budget GPUs.

 

Is the Fury series a budget product or a premium product?

Let's go back...

Was the 290x a budget product or high end?

Was the 7970 a budget product or high end?

I could go on...

Let's go way back to the ATi days. Was the 9700pro a budget product?

 

They have been consistently releasing full ranges of GPUs with good performance all the way from high end to budget. I know that very well as a happy R9 290 customer.

[Prysin]

@Manny Calavera

the most essential thing is never the AGE of a product, it is the performance. A scissor from 1820 would do the exact same job as a scissor from 2015, the edges may be a little blunt, but if you sharpen it, it will be fine.
The same applies to "old" technology aswell. AMD showed us this.

They took the GPU used in the 270 and rebranded it 3 times over. However can you with your hand on your chest say that the GPU used in the 270 and now 370 is any worse then it was before? Is it not the same, bar a few minor improvements here and there?

 

The same applies to 260, now 360. While it is the first time the 260 is copied directly, it is also seing minor improvements. Strictly speaking, AMD took the 2xx line, and made a few improvements to the "new" 360,370,380,390, so that now, they are inbetween the former 200 non X and X series. 

 

A 390 is essentially 290.5, it is not a 290X, because the X version is faster, but it is slightly faster then the 290 non X.

 

So what if they served you the same dish? They made a better chef make the dish, and thus they charge a premium. Wait 2-3 months and said premium will be dropping and these cards will, once again, be amazing value.

[Humbug]

And that takes to long... I rather wait for DX12! Oh wait that will take some time to but not as long...

Vulkan was already demonstrated at last years GDC.

The finallized spec will be released in SIGGRAPH in August. So we are looking at less than two months from now...

Valve just began the beta of source 2 (which supports Vulkan) in Dota 2 this week. So they can switch from openGL / directX render to vulkan renderer when it comes out.

[chamath]

AMD is kind of fucked up and in a loosing battle to Nvidia maxwell. Main criticism for 300 series is rebranding cards, leading to have higher power consumption and lower efficiency (compared to performances). 

 

Fury is good thing, but majority of PC gamers are still on 1080P and 1440P, AMD should target them instead of focusing more attention to 4K, multi-monitor and higher resolutions

 

Finally,we don't need a monopoly in the graphic card market, competition brings best to gamers.

So AMD should really step up their game!!

[Nena Trinity]

Vulkan was already demonstrated at last years GDC.

The finallized spec will be released in SIGGRAPH in August. So we are looking at less than two months from now...

Valve just began the beta of source 2 (which supports Vulkan) in Dota 2 this week. So they can switch from openGL / directX render to vulkan renderer when it comes out.

Oh my gawds!

[Manny Calavera]

blbllb

i quoted someone else.

 

@Manny Calavera

the most essential thing is never the AGE of a product, it is the performance. A scissor from 1820 would do the exact same job as a scissor from 2015, the edges may be a little blunt, but if you sharpen it, it will be fine.

Apply this logic to gtx 650ti boost.

Now look what nvidia have done with 750ti.

You are welcome.

 

[Jfb112697]

I honestly don't care. I'll get whichever GPU gives me the most power for the lowest price. 

[Lefteris]

The 980ti gives titan X performance at 650$, so the fury is not 30% better price/performance than the 980ti. (the fury x and titan shouldn't be compared. the fury x and the 980ti should be compared)

The fury x2 will be cool though, and i'm quite frankly excited for it.

What you are saying doesn't make much sense. You said that the Fury X should be compared to the GTX 980Ti and not the Titan X. However before that you said that GTX 980Ti gives Titan X performance. In that case why shouldn't the Fury X be compared to the Titan X?

[Lefteris]

First of all the 300 series graphics cards don't use the exact same chips as the 200 series. That's why they have renamed them. From what we have seen so far the cards will have a 10% improvement over the previous generation which I would say is a pretty  significant jump. Also this is not something to be supprised about since this  not the first time that AMD has done that. Some of the 200 series cards like the 280 and the 270 were rebrands and we didn't hear anyone complain back then. Furthermore Nvidia has done the exact same thing when going from the 600 to the 700 series. The GTX 770 and the 760 used the GK104 chip which was in the GTX 680. What's more the 200 series was pretty competitive and there were new cards introduced less than a year ago like the 265 and 285. It wouldn't be beneficial for them to drop them. Having said that I am not really satisfied ffrom this release. I too would like to see new chips and AMD turning the table and I am sure that AMD too would like to come out with new chips however when you take into consideration the financial condition in which AMD is in and the projects that they have in development like Carrizo, Zen and HBM it's understandable why they have decided to take the "rebranding" route. From what we have seen so far the price and performance of these new cards is pretty close to that of the Nvidia ones with the biggest difference being power consumption. It's still too early to decide so I am waiting for more card reviews to make my conclusion but from what I have seen so far I think that if nothing else it's adequate.

[ind3x]

What you are saying doesn't make much sense. You said that the Fury X should be compared to the GTX 980Ti and not the Titan X. However before that you said that GTX 980Ti gives Titan X performance. In that case why shouldn't the Fury X be compared to the Titan X?

what i meant was the titan x price point.

The fury should be compared with the 980ti due to similar price points. 

Saying the fury is a titan killer is great and all, but the titan is overpriced, as it doesn't perform much (if any) better than the 980ti.

Hoped that cleared it up a little.