SKHynix ramping up HBM1 production for AMD

[marldorthegreat]

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/sk-hynix-ramps-production-high-080400426.html

 

 

SK Hynix Inc. (or ‘the Company’, www.skhynix.com) announced today that it is shipping mass production volumes of 1^st generation High Bandwidth Memory (HBM1) based on SK hynix’s advanced 20nm-class DRAM process technology. HBM1 represents a groundbreaking leap in performance by enabling a 1,024 bit wide memory interface to achieve 128GB/second performance while reducing power by 50% over traditional GDDR5 DRAM solutions.

[KamiKatze]

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Nevertheless, i do hope that Fury will be a proper card unlike, the rest of Rebrand9 300 series cards.

[Bouzoo]

Well there goes the 30,000 products rumor. Anyone knows who is supposed to make HBM2 anyway? Also Hynix?

 

And also dude, don't just c/p the article.

[tsk]

Well there goes the 30,000 products rumor. Anyone knows who is supposed to make HBM2 anyway? Also Hynix?

 

And also dude, don't just c/p the article.

SK Hynix has HBM2 in the works, maybe others will make it too.

[mr moose]

I want to see how HBM1 performs in the real world before I get concerned with HBM2.  Given how far away that is we might see a whole new ram tech before then anyway. 

[tsk]

I want to see how HBM1 performs in the real world before I get concerned with HBM2.  Given how far away that is we might see a whole new ram tech before then anyway. 

HBM2 should be ready for next year,

[Techhog]

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Nevertheless, i do hope that Fury will be a proper card unlike, the rest of Rebrand9 300 series cards.

I know that last sentence is just to fire shots at AMD, but obviously Fury isn't a rebrand.

[marldorthegreat]

I know that last sentence is just to fire shots at AMD, but obviously Fury isn't a rebrand.

Thats what we think....

[Guest]

Please fix your post in accordance with the pinned thread.

[zMeul]

and just like that, the 30000 Fury limit rumor comes back to life

also this:

• Fiji - 128GB/s per stack x 4 = 512GB/s
• 390X = 384GB/s

if Fury(X) is nothing short of a miracle, this will bite them in the arse, hard!! they were so adamant on putting HBM1 on that chip ... 

[KamiKatze]

I know that last sentence is just to fire shots at AMD, but obviously Fury isn't a rebrand.

 

I know that. And it was to fire shots at AMD's rebrand plans. But I'm genuenly interested to see if Fury will be a proper card that can catch on.

[Techhog]

I know that. And it was to fire shots at AMD's rebrand plans. But I'm genuenly interested to see if Fury will be a proper card that can catch on.

Define "proper card." That just seems like a ridiculous term.

[KamiKatze]

Define "proper card." That just seems like a ridiculous term.

 

A card that will be abled to step up to the Titan X and kick its butt while being less expensive. Also a good energy efficiency and low heat output/ noise level would be nice. Fury should just in general be a milestone in AMDs GPU history, which defines the future route of AMD GPUs.

 

However seeing that almost all of the rest of the cards have been leaked to be complete rebrand, already disappoints me a lot. So all hope lies in Fury.

[Techhog]

A card that will be abled to step up to the Titan X and kick its butt while being less expensive. Also a good energy efficiency and low heat output/ noise level would be nice. Fury should just in general be a milestone in AMDs GPU history, which defines the future route of AMD GPUs.

 

However seeing that almost all of the rest of the cards have been leaked to be complete rebrand, already disappoints me a lot. So all hope lies in Fury.

You're expecting too much. Efficiency competitive with Maxwell would require a completely new architecture. You're going to be disappointed, but mostly because your expectations are far above what they have the resources for. HBM should definitely help, though. Most likely, we're looking at slightly less performance than Titan X with ~20% more power. That said, Maxwell's power efficiency tanks when you overclock it, while GCN's tends to scale a bit better.

[Notional]

So much for 30k Fiji cards only. What a joke.

[KamiKatze]

You're expecting too much. Efficiency competitive with Maxwell would require a completely new architecture. You're going to be disappointed, but mostly because your expectations are far above what they have the resources for. HBM should definitely help, though. Most likely, we're looking at slightly less performance than Titan X with ~20% more power. That said, Maxwell's power efficiency tanks when you overclock it, while GCN's tends to scale a bit better.

 

We (or at least i) know nothing about the Fury chip itself. I allways thought that the R9 290X with it's ~4000 cores was the maximum that 28 nm could do. I'm interested to see what Fury is made of (certainly also 28 nm, but so is maxwell).

 

Yeah i know, I'm asking for a lot, but AMD does have to deliver a lot in order to not get eaten my Nvidia in the next few quarters. AMD's CPU department is struggling enough already.

[Techhog]

We (or at least i) know nothing about the Fury chip itself. I allways thought that the R9 290X with it's ~4000 cores was the maximum that 28 nm could do. I'm interested to see what Fury is made of (certainly also 28 nm, but so is maxwell).

 

Yeah i know, I'm asking for a lot, but AMD does have to deliver a lot in order to not get eaten my Nvidia in the next few quarters. AMD's CPU department is struggling enough already.

290X has 2816 SPs. Fiji has 4096 SPs.

[Techhog]

We (or at least i) know nothing about the Fury chip itself. I allways thought that the R9 290X with it's ~4000 cores was the maximum that 28 nm could do. I'm interested to see what Fury is made of (certainly also 28 nm, but so is maxwell).

 

Yeah i know, I'm asking for a lot, but AMD does have to deliver a lot in order to not get eaten my Nvidia in the next few quarters. AMD's CPU department is struggling enough already.

Actually, if the TDPs given are accurate and the performance is on par with the Titan X, it's only 10% less efficient. That's really good, all things considered. It's a question of heat though. Granted, it's not like GM200's heat output is low in the first place; it's exactly where you'd expect it to be in a high-end card.

[ZestyJalapeno]

Not gonna lie, seeing TNR as the OP font got me hard. I  fuckin' love TNR.

[KamiKatze]

Actually, if the TDPs given are accurate and the performance is on par with the Titan X, it's only 10% less efficient. That's really good, all things considered. It's a question of heat though. Granted, it's not like GM200's heat output is low in the first place; it's exactly where you'd expect it to be in a high-end card.

 

I didn't know about the Fury TDP (275W, just googled it). Seems to be cool (literally). Especially compared to the 290X's 250W TDP. A step forward, finally. Can't wait to see a Linus review of the card.

[ZestyJalapeno]

Actually, if the TDPs given are accurate and the performance is on par with the Titan X, it's only 10% less efficient. That's really good, all things considered. It's a question of heat though. Granted, it's not like GM200's heat output is low in the first place; it's exactly where you'd expect it to be in a high-end card.

Fury X is looking to be cheaper than the Titan X for about the same performance, so the small disparity in pure performance/watt should really be a non-factor if you'r well-off enough to even be considering spending this money on a flagship GPU.

 

And heat output on the Fury shouldn't be a problem either. The photo leaks are showing quite a thick rad coupled with what looks to be a seriously overkill Gentle Typhoon. I think AMD learnt their lesson from the horrible ref. coolers they implemented on their last single GPU flagships. Good on them I say.

[Techhog]

I didn't know about the Fury TDP (275W, just googled it). Seems to be cool (literally). Especially compared to the 290X's 250W TDP. A step forward, finally. Can't wait to see a Linus review of the card.

The Nano is going to be even more insane it seems. (Nano is an air-cooled mITX form-factor card.) Twice the efficiency of the 290X they say.

[Doobeedoo]

Need more HBM numbers how it actually performs in games etc. I would like to see it's full potential, maybe in future games.

I want to know how it performs with same size vs old memory.

[duriel]

The Nano is going to be even more insane it seems. (Nano is an air-cooled mITX form-factor card.) Twice the efficiency of the 290X they say.

 

efficiency per watt, yeah. lower power req. + higher performance is probably going to be twice the performance per watt which is believable.

[GloriousPain]

and just like that, the 30000 Fury limit rumor comes back to life

also this:

• Fiji - 128GB/s per stack x 4 = 512GB/s
• 390X = 384GB/s

if Fury(X) is nothing short of a miracle, this will bite them in the arse, hard!! they were so adamant on putting HBM1 on that chip ... 

Theres more to it than just that; HBM takes less space on a PCB making it easier to put a bigger Graphics chip on the PCB without the memory taking up all the room and it also makes the TDP lower which is something AMD has to be concerned about compared to Maxwell I mean if it makes a 50w difference that's 20% of say Titan X's TDP right there...