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Wanted to clarify for everyone, AMD's next GPU lineup. I'm seeing a lot of confusion and misunderstanding (not surprised) with regards to the 300 series cards and where they will fall, performance-wise. Some are rebrands/tweaked pre-existing GPUs and some are new. 

 

Using pieces of info gathered from numerous sources over the past few weeks/months, this is (what I believe to be) a definitive list of the up-coming mainstream/enthusiast GPU lineup from AMD:

 

Radeon "Fury": Brand new flagship GPU based on the new "Fiji" architecture with the new stacked memory design. Will most likely be released in pro and xt variants just like the other mid and high-end AMD GPUs of the recent past and present. Will be available in 4 and 8GB variants. Will compete with the Titan X and 980Ti. 

 

390 & 390X: Contrary to what some still believe (and not necessarily by their fault), this will NOT be AMD's new flagship GPU (Fiji). That will be the "Fury" as described above. The 390 and 390X will be tweaked and rebranded versions of the Hawaii pro and xt, currently known as the 290 and 290X. 4 and 8GB variants will be available. Will compete with the GTX 970 and 980. It is rumored that AMD has been able to get more from the Hawaii chips to compete more closely with the 980, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

380 & 380X: The 380 will be a rebrand of the current Tonga pro based 285 (which is a cut-down Tonga chip). The 380X will be a new "fully unlocked" Tonga xt GPU. These will be available with 2 and 4GB versions and will compete with the GTX 960 and rumored 960Ti.

 

370 & 370X: As far as I know, these will simply be rebrands of the 270 and 270X (Pitcairn pro and xt) GPUs, probably with minor changes/updates. They will most likely compete with the GTX 950 and 950Ti, if and when they release. 

 

 

So, hopefully this clears things up and helps remove much of the confusion. ;)

 

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Wanted to clarify for everyone, AMD's next GPU lineup. I'm seeing a lot of confusion and misunderstanding (not surprised) with regards to the 300 series cards and where they will fall, performance-wise. Some are rebrands/tweaked pre-existing GPUs and some are new. 

 

Using pieces of info gathered from numerous sources over the past few weeks/months, this is (what I believe to be) a definitive list of the up-coming mainstream/enthusiast GPU lineup from AMD:

 

Radeon "Fury": Brand new flagship GPU based on the new "Fiji" architecture with the new stacked memory design. Will most likely be released in pro and xt variants just like the other mid and high-end AMD GPUs of the recent past and present. Will be available in 4 and 8GB variants. Will compete with the Titan X and 980Ti. 

 

390 & 390X: Contrary to what some still believe (and not necessarily by their fault), this will NOT be AMD's new flagship GPU (Fiji). That will be the "Fury" as described above. The 390 and 390X will be tweaked and rebranded versions of the Hawaii pro and xt, currently known as the 290 and 290X. 4 and 8GB variants will be available. Will compete with the GTX 970 and 980. It is rumored that AMD has been able to get more from the Hawaii chips to compete more closely with the 980, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

380 & 380X: The 380 will be a rebrand of the current Tonga pro based 285 (which is a cut-down Tonga chip). The 380X will be a new "fully unlocked" Tonga xt GPU. These will be available with 2 and 4GB versions and will compete with the GTX 960 and rumored 960Ti.

 

370 & 370X: As far as I know, these will simply be rebrands of the 270 and 270X (Pitcairn pro and xt) GPUs, probably with minor changes/updates. They will most likely compete with the GTX 950 and 950Ti, if and when they release. 

 

 

So, hopefully this clears things up and helps remove much of the confusion. ;)

 

Cheers. 

Absolutely no point in releasing the high end GPU with less than 8GB..

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Sources would be nice, but I'm gonna believe it anyways, sounds plausible.

 

Looks like AMD is gonna sell us ~4 y/o cards then. I guess if they still perform... why not -.-

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So the whole 300 series is rebrands? Wow. Hopefully fury is priced reasonably.

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so much rebranding, i almost find it amazing that they can squeeze more strength out of the gpu every time

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Both the R9 270 and R9 270X are Pitcairn XT.

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Absolutely no point in releasing the high end GPU with less than 8GB..

I genuinely hope that is a joke

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Was the 290X fully unlocked..?

Isn't that the new rumor,.. that it wasn't... and thats how they can improve on it again (aside from the tiny clockspeed change)

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Absolutely no point in releasing the high end GPU with less than 8GB..

 

...why?

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I genuinely hope that is a joke

You don't know? The higher the VRAM number the stronger the card.
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The Titan killer with less than 4GB?

lol, your nvidiocy is showing breh.

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So the whole 300 series is rebrands? Wow. Hopefully fury is priced reasonably.

 

Not all, but most. Fiji and Tonga xt (380X) will be new. 

 

Sources would be nice, but I'm gonna believe it anyways, sounds plausible.

 

Looks like AMD is gonna sell us ~4 y/o cards then. I guess if they still perform... why not -.-

 

Would have included sources, but I'm at work and don't have the time to go searching for all the links. Most of the info is readily available if you do a little searching though. ;)

 

Was the 290X fully unlocked..?

Isn't that the new rumor,.. that it wasn't... and thats how they can improve on it again (aside from the tiny clockspeed change)

 

I believe the 290X (Hawaii xt) was/is a fully unlocked Hawaii chip. This is why I'm very curious to see how AMD will get more performance from it, if they can.

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VRAM doesn't matter maybe?

Raw performance and memory have little to do.

And HBM is a totally different beast compared to DDR5.

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The Titan killer with less than 4GB?

 

Why not? Even at 4k 4gb is currently more than enough. Besides nvidia just killed the titan x with the 980ti, that's the card to beat (or at least match). While I do think an 8gb version should be made available, in a signle card scenario you won't be able to use any more than 4 without having gpu related framerate drops.

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lol, your nvidiocy is showing breh.

How is it showing? All I am saying is that a card designed to compete with the Titan X (12gb VRAM) and the 980ti (6gb vram) should have more than 4GB... I am getting shit for this? 4K needs more than 4GB.

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4K needs more than 4GB.

No it doesn't.

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The Fury 4GB variant would be perfect for someone running a single 1080p or 1440p high-refresh rate (120hz+) display. Don't forget it will have HBM and that along with other hardware/software optimizations can negate the necessity for more Vram capacity (to an extent). 

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How is it showing? All I am saying is that a card designed to compete with the Titan X (12gb VRAM) and the 980ti (6gb vram) should have more than 4GB... I am getting shit for this? 4K needs more than 4GB.

 

Not every single "specification" needs to be of a higher number/value to be a stronger performing card.

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Most AAA games are hitting 3.8GB now- that's 200MB left for future proofing. Good idea, yes?

By the time games sip more than 4GB of vram, a Titan X or any other (single) card with more than 4GB of vram will be running it like shit.

Atm, you're literally paying for e-penis size if you buy a card with more than 4GB just because it has more.

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@blu4 - are you forgetting, there will be 8GB versions of the Fury as well. ;)

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