Windows 10 (8core beating 4 cores?)

[Techinoob]

I heard rumors that supposedly 8 core processors will dominate 4 core processors due to Direct x 12 when windows 10 releases in a few months I just got rid of my 8 core processor and bought a intel i7 4970k so I hope this isn't true lol  

Ofcourse they are rumors but you never know

 

[Comessy]

Wait what? Don't 8 cores always beat 4 cores?

[AlwaysFSX]

I'm assuming you had an FX-8xxx and you should be glad to know the i7 (8 threads) smokes it.

[Octavialicious]

Wait what? Don't 8 cores always beat 4 cores?

I think he's talking about 8350 vs 4790K

[VG Docs]

-Snipe-

If that "8 core processor" was something like an 8350, and DX12 does effectively utilize 8 threads, the 4790k will still win.

[Comessy]

I think he's talking about 8350 vs 4790K

Oh I thought he meant like a 5960x vs 4690k

[Techinoob]

Wait what? Don't 8 cores always beat 4 cores?

Well I had the 8core 8350 and upgraded to the intel i7 4970k.

with Benchmarks the Intel actually beats the 8350

 

[Sam Z Man]

I'm assuming you had an FX-8xxx and you should be glad to know the i7 (8 threads) smokes it.

The FX-8xxx cpus are not even true 8 cores they have 4 cores and 8 threads.

[Guest Kloaked]

To reiterate what's already been said, it's not going to save AMD chips. Sure they'll perform a tad better in DX12 applications than they did in DX11 or previously, but not as good as your i7.

[Samfisher]

DX12 won't magically improve CPU performance.  I don't get how people are still convinced about this.  DX12 only saves you if the game in question was draw-call bottlenecked, and ONLY draw-call bottlenecked.  Not draw-call bottlenecked?  DX12 won't do anything for you.

[Techinoob]

To reiterate what's already been said, it's not going to save AMD chips. Sure they'll perform a tad better in DX12 applications than they did in DX11 or previously, but not as good as your i7.

Alright I was just curious thanks guys can't wait till windows 10 comes out. ah

[RazeG3SG1]

if what you meant was fx 8350 vs i5 4690 then yeah, 8350 will floor it.

[Sam Z Man]

This might make me hold off on buying a 5820K for my X99 board might have to get the 596... oh wait I can't afford a CPU that costs more than a grand unless I sell my kidney's.

[ImBleu]

Well I had the 8core 8350 and upgraded to the intel i7 4970k.

with Benchmarks the Intel actually beats the 8350

 

 

An intel Hex or Octacore will beat an Intel Quad Core, but an Intel Quadcore will beat an AMD quad or octacore. 

[VG Docs]

if what you meant was fx 8350 vs i5 4690 then yeah, 8350 will floor it.

"floor it" is quite the exaggeration. the 8350 barely beats it in applications that fully utilize all available threads (which games probably won't be able to do, even with DX12). If you include overclocking (due to higher IPC), the 4690k likely beats it even in those benchmarks.

[Enderman]

the 4790k will always be better than the 8350, even with DX12

[BoredErica]

I think people are way too optimistic about DX12, just like with previous DX releases.

[Sam Z Man]

An intel Hex or Octacore will beat an Intel Quad Core, but an Intel Quadcore will beat an AMD quad or octacore.

The only true AMD octacore's were the "16" core opteron server CPU's.

[Dabombinable]

An i5 4440 already smokes an FX 8350 in games, and since it will also receive the same boost as an FX 8350, the FX 8350 will still show its extremely poor design and age. (FX 9590's don't count, factory suicide clocked FX 8320's).

[Dabombinable]

The only true AMD octacore's were the "16" core opteron server CPU's.

That's actually 8 modules, 16 iCores ("i" for integer). Technically a 16 core, but really a big 'fuck you' to customers.

[Notree]

I think people are way too optimistic about DX12, just like with previous DX releases.

I agree. 

And I don't see dx 12 suddenly making AMD cpu's better then Intel. If anything it will improve performance of both platforms similarly. If dx 12 makes an 8350 even better then an i5 they wont be able to keep stock. But it isn't going to happen

[ThE_MarD]

Heyyo,

Yes and no.... Yes an eight core CPU can beat a four core...

No, as in the game engine still needs to be developed with eight threads in mind. Look at current games.. some use a single core for all computing minus physics and sound running separate threads (World of Tanks) and then you have some games which utilize eight threads nicely (GTA V & Planetside 2). I don't see how DirectX 12 will change that fact unless they make it so dummy proof that DirectX 12 handles the CPU workloads... which I highly doubt.

Also, it's a little more about the processor's frequency clock and instructions per cycle than core count these days. Current games tend to perform optimally at four cores.

[Sam Z Man]

An i5 4440 already smokes an FX 8350 in games, and since it will also receive the same boost as an FX 8350, the FX 8350 will still show its extremely poor design and age. (FX 9590's don't count, factory suicide clocked FX 8320's).

Suicide clocked is the best description I have ever heard for them.

[JRuss16]

well the 8350 already beats the i7 in some things like 3D rendering in MAYA but stuff like that is vary well optimized for more cores and more CPUs and even more computers working on it 

[fracking4oil]

...so I hope this isn't true. 

 

Why would you wish worse for others? lol

 

I hope it does run better on 8 cores, as long as it runs well enough on my 4 cores.