Benro S2 vs S4 vs Velbon PH-368

[ShadowCaptain]

yeah, thats a little pricy.....

how much would you sell it for?

 

any ideas on similar ones to the 50mm?

 

I am not sure, make me an offer

 

35mm would be better, or something wider for a prime IMO - 

 

you could get this - and get some FD glass off ebay - 50 f1.8 and 70-210mm - I have been using them on my sony A7

 

Adapter

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mount-Adapter-Canon-Rebel-DC328/dp/B00CQ254BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1431614498&sr=8-2&keywords=fd+to+eos

 

70-210

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canon-FD-70-210-mm-F-4-Lens-/201348939547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ee154ff1b

 

50mm f1.8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CANON-FD-MOUNT-50mm-1-1-8-PRIME-LENS-in-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/261887536408?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf9b6ad18

[Gershy13]

I am not sure, make me an offer

 

35mm would be better, or something wider for a prime IMO - 

 

you could get this - and get some FD glass off ebay - 50 f1.8 and 70-210mm - I have been using them on my sony A7

 

Adapter

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mount-Adapter-Canon-Rebel-DC328/dp/B00CQ254BK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1431614498&sr=8-2&keywords=fd+to+eos

 

70-210

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canon-FD-70-210-mm-F-4-Lens-/201348939547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2ee154ff1b

 

50mm f1.8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CANON-FD-MOUNT-50mm-1-1-8-PRIME-LENS-in-VERY-GOOD-CONDITION-/261887536408?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3cf9b6ad18

will that convert it to ef-s or ef? so will it be cropped?

 

ummmm not sure... £50? (i dont know the condition or anything....)

and im not sure if my parents will let me buy a used lens... (im 13....)

[ShadowCaptain]

will that convert it to ef-s or ef? so will it be cropped?

 

ummmm not sure... £50? (i dont know the condition or anything....)

and im not sure if my parents will let me buy a used lens... (im 13....)

 

it will crop it, they are full frame so just like using a normal EFS lens

 

its cheaper than getting a brand new lens from a shop - dont forget they are all manual, no electronics, so not much to go wrong, as long as they are fog and fungus free

 

I have started collecting vintage lenses, and they are great for video as they have gorgeous manual focus and nice aperture controls on the lens itself

anyway, just an idea, if you are on a tight budget and want good glass - used vintage is a good idea - some local camera shops sometimes sell these too, so could be worth a scout

[Gershy13]

it will crop it, they are full frame so just like using a normal EFS lens

 

its cheaper than getting a brand new lens from a shop - dont forget they are all manual, no electronics, so not much to go wrong, as long as they are fog and fungus free

 

I have started collecting vintage lenses, and they are great for video as they have gorgeous manual focus and nice aperture controls on the lens itself

anyway, just an idea, if you are on a tight budget and want good glass - used vintage is a good idea - some local camera shops sometimes sell these too, so could be worth a scout

hmmm yeah, good idea, but i cant find any low aperture ones. the only one i found was that 50mm you showed me... i want like 35mm or even lower....

 

basically i need a good lens with a good aperture that will be ok for b-roll.... i have a very small room, so i wont be able to move the camera much.... 

i want good DOF and Bokeh....

[ShadowCaptain]

hmmm yeah, good idea, but i cant find any low aperture ones. the only one i found was that 50mm you showed me... i want like 35mm or even lower....

 

basically i need a good lens with a good aperture that will be ok for b-roll.... i have a very small room, so i wont be able to move the camera much.... 

i want good DOF and Bokeh....

 

f2,8 will be ok, if you are looking at lenses

 

the 50mm is quite hard to work with, at 80mm its more of a potrait lens, and requires quite a far minimum distance, however it has a very nice aesthetic, and if you can get a few feet between you and what you are filming would do a good job

[Gershy13]

f2,8 will be ok, if you are looking at lenses

 

the 50mm is quite hard to work with, at 80mm its more of a potrait lens, and requires quite a far minimum distance, however it has a very nice aesthetic, and if you can get a few feet between you and what you are filming would do a good job

hmm 24mm@2.8?

[ShadowCaptain]

hmm 24mm@2.8?

 

Would be good, f2.8 still gives a nice depth of field and decent low light performance

 

24mm is nice as it would be roughly a 35-38mm lens after crop which is much better than 80mm

[Gershy13]

Would be good, f2.8 still gives a nice depth of field and decent low light performance

 

24mm is nice as it would be roughly a 35-38mm lens after crop which is much better than 80mm

yeah.... 

 

thats not bad... but it would be awesome if i could get a like 18-200 or something f2.8 or something along those lines.... that would be best of all worlds...

i can have zoom and close but with good aperture...

[ShadowCaptain]

yeah.... 

 

thats not bad... but it would be awesome if i could get a like 18-200 or something f2.8 or something along those lines.... that would be best of all worlds...

i can have zoom and close but with good aperture...

 

 

haha yeah good luck with that with your budget

 

superzooms are soft, fact, they will never be as sharp as a prime, my main general purpose lens is a 24-70 f2.8 - and a 70-200 f2.8 -  or for APSC a 17-55 f2.8 for you

[Gershy13]

haha yeah good luck with that with your budget

 

superzooms are soft, fact, they will never be as sharp as a prime, my main general purpose lens is a 24-70 f2.8 - and a 70-200 f2.8 -  or for APSC a 17-55 f2.8 for you

yeah, i knew it wasnt possible....

 

so ill probs go with the EF-S 24mm f2.8

 

btw its not cropped.... so, will it be too small?

[ShadowCaptain]

yeah, i knew it wasnt possible....

 

so ill probs go with the EF-S 24mm f2.8

 

btw its not cropped.... so, will it be too small?

 

your have a crop sensored camera APSC - so 24 will be 24mm x1.6

[Gershy13]

your have a crop sensored camera APSC - so 24 will be 24mm x1.6

 

i thought ef-s lenses are not cropped?

[ShadowCaptain]

i thought ef-s lenses are not cropped?

 

EF lenses are full frame, EFS are for APSC (1.6 Crop)

 

Lenses are always given in 35mm equivelents, so the 18-55 kit lens is actually a 28.8 - 88mm lens when mounted on your camera

[Gershy13]

EF lenses are full frame, EFS are for APSC (1.6 Crop)

 

Lenses are always given in 35mm equivelents, so the 18-55 kit lens is actually a 28.8 - 88mm lens when mounted on your camera

ohh! i did not know that!!!

 

but a 24mm ef-s lens would be the same as the 24mm marking on my lens?

[ShadowCaptain]

ohh! i did not know that!!!

 

but a 24mm ef-s lens would be the same as the 24mm marking on my lens?

 

Yes same as 24 on the kit lens, just no zoom and a faster aperture (and lots sharper too)

[Gershy13]

Yes same as 24 on the kit lens, just no zoom and a faster aperture (and lots sharper too)

ok thanks...

 

will the dof on that be good for b-roll??

will it have much difference from 4.0? (which is what my current lens does....)

[ShadowCaptain]

ok thanks...

 

will the dof on that be good for b-roll??

will it have much difference from 4.0? (which is what my current lens does....)

 

Yeah f2.8 is much brighter so better in low light and a much more shallow depth of field

[Gershy13]

Yeah f2.8 is much brighter so better in low light and a much more shallow depth of field

 

the numbers dont seem much different, but there will be a big difference?

[ShadowCaptain]

the numbers dont seem much different, but there will be a big difference?

 

Yep just like there is a big difference between f1.8 and f2.8 and f4.0 , heck some people pay more just to get f1.4 of f0.95 ($10k for the leica etc)

 

its a prime so it will also be much sharper

[Gershy13]

Yep just like there is a big difference between f1.8 and f2.8 and f4.0 , heck some people pay more just to get f1.4 of f0.95 ($10k for the leica etc)

 

its a prime so it will also be much sharper

ok nice!

 

just out of curiosity what is the lowest aperture out there? and are there any videos?

[Gershy13]

Yep just like there is a big difference between f1.8 and f2.8 and f4.0 , heck some people pay more just to get f1.4 of f0.95 ($10k for the leica etc)

 

its a prime so it will also be much sharper

so i just watched a review on the 24mm, that seems the best...

 

would you pick the 40mm 2.8 over the 24mm 2.8??

 

if i have enough i will get both so one of those ^ and the 50mm f1.8

[ShadowCaptain]

ok nice!

 

just out of curiosity what is the lowest aperture out there? and are there any videos?

 

 

I think f0.78 or something but commonly f0.95 like the leica noctilux - there are also some copies from SLR magix and Mitakon (I plan to get an FE mount one for my A7 in the future)

 

 

as far as which lens to buy it depends on your needs and which focal length you prefer really, there is no right answer

[Gershy13]

so i just watched a review on the 24mm, that seems the best...

 

would you pick the 40mm 2.8 over the 24mm 2.8??

 

if i have enough i will get both so one of those ^ and the 50mm f1.8

yeah, i think ill go with the 24mm 2.8....

obviously, im gonna get the tripod first, then the head, then the slider (if i get one...)

and then ill get a lens.....

[Gershy13]

I think f0.78 or something but commonly f0.95 like the leica noctilux - there are also some copies from SLR magix and Mitakon (I plan to get an FE mount one for my A7 in the future)

 

 

as far as which lens to buy it depends on your needs and which focal length you prefer really, there is no right answer

cool, thanks

[Gershy13]

ShadowCaptain,

 

How can i not get grain on my 650d?

 

Even at ISO 100, i still get grains....

f3.5

1/60 shutter

 

im using CineStyle preset and taking the contrast and saturation up in Premiere/Speedgrade...

Im not even taking it up that much....

but it looks grainy....