So let's say the 390 is 700$

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

So let's say it's ~700$ like its rumored to be, and I currently have a 290, even if the 390 is ~30% more powerful, wouldn't another 290 = better performance for the low price of 260$ after rebate as of now? Or are so many games unsupportive of xf that it wouldn't be worth it.

[eman21790]

If I were you I'd get a 4690k before another 290.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Already got it installed. My specs that you read from my profile are obsolete

[-iSynthesis]

So let's say it's ~700$ like its rumored to be, and I currently have a 290, even if the 390 is ~30% more powerful, wouldn't another 290 = better performance for the low price of 260$ after rebate as of now? Or are so many games unsupportive of xf that it wouldn't be worth it.

Lets see how the performance actually is, im not aware of a ton of games not supporting CFX, and honestly, the games that dont support it will run on one card flawlessly. If it is 700$ (Which i doubt it will be), obviously another 290 will give you better performance in the majority of the games.

BTW, quote or tag people if you want them to know you answered

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

If I were you I'd get a 4690k before another 290.

My profile specs are obsolete I have a 4690k installed funny enough:D I'm too lazy to update my profile.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Lets see how the performance actually is, im not aware of a ton of games not supporting CFX, and honestly, the games that dont support it will run on one card flawlessly. If it is 700$ (Which i doubt it will be), obviously another 290 will give you better performance in the majority of the games.

BTW, quote or tag people if you want them to know you answered

Ya I mean we won't know until it's released but many people have speculated it to be about 700$. I think that's insane for an Amd card (I was hoping for it to be ~400$ Especially if it's nonx) and thanks for the tip. I definently won't buy anything until they are released but I was just curious if xf 290 would give more performance than the suspected 30% increase of the new card.

[-iSynthesis]

Ya I mean we won't know until it's released but many people have speculated it to be about 700$. I think that's insane for an Amd card (I was hoping for it to be ~400$ Especially if it's nonx) and thanks for the tip. I definently won't buy anything until they are released but I was just curious if xf 290 would give more performance than the suspected 30% increase of the new card.

Because it's AMD, i highly doubt the non x version will be 700$, i mean, the 290x was 550$ at release, the 290 was 400$ i believe.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Because it's AMD, i highly doubt the non x version will be 700$, i mean, the 290x was 550$ at release, the 290 was 400$ i believe.

I really hope your right. But because it's new "state of the art" consumer grade technology it may see a price hike. At least for a few months. Especially since amd has that lawsuit in their lap. Idk if that would effect their vid cards department though. I'm not a business guy. I just really want to future proof and not have to upgrade for another few years. Atm 1440 and 4k is illogical for someone like me, as I really don't see that big of a difference. At least not one that justifies an extra 1500$ worth of cards to run, I wouldn't say I'm a budget gamer, but I definently want to spend my money wisely.

[Briggsy]

I have xfire 290's and I would probably not upgrade unless the 390 was at least 50% better and less than 600 dollars. A 30% improvement seems on the extreme low side in my opinion, considering the HBM and lossless delta compression that Fiji will use. Hawaii already has asynchronous shaders (something nvidia just started using with maxwell), so there will be little improvement on draw call performance going from hawaii to Fiji, but 30% seems like a low ball estimate for a 700 dollar price tag. the 290x was a 50% gain over the 7970, and launched at a lowish price. The HBM memory is the wildcard for pricing and performance, and no one will really know if its worth xfiring 290's instead, until the 390 launches and real benchmarks are out. That being said, there are people who side-graded from 780Ti's to 980's, and by comparison a thousand dollar 390 would be a stupidly good deal over a 290, even with a 30% performance gain.

[othertomperson]

So let's say it's ~700$ like its rumored to be, and I currently have a 290, even if the 390 is ~30% more powerful, wouldn't another 290 = better performance for the low price of 260$ after rebate as of now? Or are so many games unsupportive of xf that it wouldn't be worth it.

 

Yes. The most powerful GPU of the moment never makes financial sense, and another 290 will almost certainly be an improvement over a single 390.

 

And don't listen to people telling you how most games don't support crossfire: they're talking out of their arse.

[Briggsy]

Yes. The most powerful GPU of the moment never makes financial sense, and another 290 will almost certainly be an improvement over a single 390.

 

And don't listen to people telling you how most games don't support crossfire: they're talking out of their arse.

 

Agreed on both points. very few games have issues with xfire or SLI, and often the ones that do are indie or old games that don't need the graphic power anyway.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Agreed on both points. very few games have issues with xfire or SLI, and often the ones that do are indie or old games that don't need the graphic power anyway.

This is what I thought. So another question would be, I want to max out witcher 3, and we are told a single 980 can do that at (around) yes "around", 60fps. Now the mystery question here is what res they are talking about but let's say 1080, maybe 1440 at most. Would 290xf anniahlate this game or would this be close to bare minimum to run it max. In which case I'd upgrade to a more powerful single card.

[Briggsy]

This is what I thought. So another question would be, I want to max out witcher 3, and we are told a single 980 can do that at (around) yes "around", 60fps. Now the mystery question here is what res they are talking about but let's say 1080, maybe 1440 at most. Would 290xf anniahlate this game or would this be close to bare minimum to run it max. In which case I'd upgrade to a more powerful single card.

 

xfire 290 is typically going to get a 50-60% gain over a single 980, if no overclocking is done, but its going to vary from game to game. until benchmarks come out Its really hard to say.

[Hieb]

I have xfire 290's and I would probably not upgrade unless the 390 was at least 50% better and less than 600 dollars. A 30% improvement seems on the extreme low side in my opinion, considering the HBM and lossless delta compression that Fiji will use. Hawaii already has asynchronous shaders (something nvidia just started using with maxwell), so there will be little improvement on draw call performance going from hawaii to Fiji, but 30% seems like a low ball estimate for a 700 dollar price tag. the 290x was a 50% gain over the 7970, and launched at a lowish price. The HBM memory is the wildcard for pricing and performance, and no one will really know if its worth xfiring 290's instead, until the 390 launches and real benchmarks are out. That being said, there are people who side-graded from 780Ti's to 980's, and by comparison a thousand dollar 390 would be a stupidly good deal over a 290, even with a 30% performance gain.

 

HD 7970 to R9 290X was about 30%.

[Briggsy]

HD 7970 to R9 290X was about 30%.

 

I'm thinking strictly benchmark scores, so maybe I'm off. 

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

HD 7970 to R9 290X was about 30%.

so historically speaking we should get 30% plus the increase in performance from new men technology. It may be 50% May be 30%. I guess I'll wait to find out. If it's 50% then I might as well xf anyways because my gain would be near as much for a fraction of the price. Literally

[hal9001]

I'd say that it will beat or be highly competitive with the Titan X so I'm making the assumption that it would be 40-50% more powerful. How would the calculations look from here? Would the 390 be more compelling? Also, I doubt that the 390 will be $700 as the 290x released for $550.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

I'd say that it will beat or be highly competitive with the Titan X so I'm making the assumption that it would be 40-50% more powerful. How would the calculations look from here? Would the 390 be more compelling? Also, I doubt that the 390 will be $700 as the 290x released for $550.

If it will beat or match a 1000$ Titan and be priced at 550$ then nvidia is going to crap themselves. Only hard on loyal nvidia guys would buy nvidia cards if that were the case. I think if that card released for 550 then I would crap myself as well.

[Daegun]

If it will beat or match a 1000$ Titan and be priced at 550$ then nvidia is going to crap themselves. Only hard on loyal nvidia guys would buy nvidia cards if that were the case. I think if that card released for 550 then I would crap myself as well.

If it'll beat or match the titan x then they would be stupid to price it that low when they could make more profit lol

Of course, we don't have any confirmed benchmarks yet or even confirmed prices, but if the 390 is supposed to perform like cut down gm200 (rumor), $700 (rumor) would be a reasonable price considering where the titan x and 980 are currently priced. Of course, if they drop those prices, its no longer as reasonable.

[SteveGrabowski]

This is what I thought. So another question would be, I want to max out witcher 3, and we are told a single 980 can do that at (around) yes "around", 60fps. Now the mystery question here is what res they are talking about but let's say 1080, maybe 1440 at most. Would 290xf anniahlate this game or would this be close to bare minimum to run it max. In which case I'd upgrade to a more powerful single card.

Where did you hear a 980 could max it out at 60FPS? That would be awesome.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Where did you hear a 980 could max it out at 60FPS? That would be awesome.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/the-witcher-3-pc-ultra-runs-at-1080p-60fps-on-gtx--31923616/

Basically Gamestar got to play it and mess with the options and such, this is what they told us but it is just hear say. But it would be stupid to lie about something like this. So take it with some salt.

And damn I looked at some more benchmarks and amd cards scale very very well. Like 80%+ fps in a lot of games. And fire strike is actually...smooth.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

If it'll beat or match the titan x then they would be stupid to price it that low when they could make more profit lol

Of course, we don't have any confirmed benchmarks yet or even confirmed prices, but if the 390 is supposed to perform like cut down gm200 (rumor), $700 (rumor) would be a reasonable price considering where the titan x and 980 are currently priced. Of course, if they drop those prices, its no longer as reasonable.

If they priced it at 550, it would be the go to for every high end build out there. They wouldn't be able to keep them on the shelves.

[SteveGrabowski]

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/the-witcher-3-pc-ultra-runs-at-1080p-60fps-on-gtx--31923616/

Basically Gamestar got to play it and mess with the options and such, this is what they told us but it is just hear say. But it would be stupid to lie about something like this. So take it with some salt.

And damn I looked at some more benchmarks and amd cards scale very very well. Like 80%+ fps in a lot of games. And fire strike is actually...smooth.

 

Nice. Hopefully that means I'll only have to turn a couple things down on my 970 to hit 60 FPS at 1080p, since I have a similar CPU to what they ran.

[AsGoodAsAHacker]

Nice. Hopefully that means I'll only have to turn a couple things down on my 970 to hit 60 FPS at 1080p, since I have a similar CPU to what they ran.

If you turn off msaa and use fxaa then I'm sure you will be fine. Or get another 970. Two 970's would be badass.

[maizenblue]

If the 390x beats the TitanX, as the latest chiphell benchmarks show, then I can see them selling it for 700 starting out, especially since it comes with the superior cooling solution. When the 980ti comes out they might drop the price some.