I feel like I'm surrounded by idiots on this other forum :/

[TopWargamer]

I'll just let the picture speak for itself, but was I wrong in what I said?  

Here's the conversation in that thread: http://www.bungie.net/en-us/Forum/Post?id=60931123&path=1

 

[Tr33]

Nah you won. Let the trolls troll

[Anult]

''.5 teraflops won't make a difference''.

 

I died.

[david cassar]

Damn that guy is stubborn.

[Tr33]

Damn that guy is stubborn.

Yea like that one guy called "Tr33" on this forum. just make sure to never get into an argument with him on this forum.  that is IF you meet him which u hopefully wont.

[Blew]

Haha "you obviously haven't done your research."

[Emkryan]

Morecowbell has it right(more or less). Topnoobgamer is one of those people who actually thinks you can argue about graphics on a console. Facepalm\

[nemtizz]

Solid thread.

[Godlygamer23]

PS4 does have faster RAM. It uses GDDR5, while Xbox One will use DDR3.

[Hoppa]

why does the guy think that the differences in gpu will make no difference in performance? it should make almost all the difference :S

[david cassar]

Yea like that one guy called "Tr33" on this forum. just make sure to never get into an argument with him on this forum.  that is IF you meet him which u hopefully wont.

I'll keep an eye out for him  :ph34r:. 

[Tr33]

PS3 does have faster RAM. It uses GDDR5, while Xbox One will use DDR3.

Wow even the PS3  has better RAM than the Xbox One? Damn Microsoft u suck

[Tr33]

I'll keep an eye out for him  :ph34r:. 

Yea you better

[TopWargamer]

Damn that guy is stubborn.

And the conversation's only getting worse.

I gave up.

:/

[Godlygamer23]

You should give him credible links that support what you're saying. If he argues with that....well there's nothing you can do.

[TopWargamer]

Morecowbell has it right(more or less). Topnoobgamer is one of those people who actually thinks you can argue about graphics on a console. Facepalm\

But you can.

>.>

[TopWargamer]

You should give him credible links that support what you're saying. If he argues with that....well there's nothing you can do.

I did a post or 2 later on. He still won't listen.

:/ 

[Anult]

Protip: NEVER argue with console diehards. Facts and logic will do nothing. They are blinded by the sheer loyalty of their brand.

 

The regular console user though, they are cool beans to debate with.

[mememo]

Some of people who only use a console have no idea what there talking about when it comes to tech so they will believe the marketing BS from there favorite company because somehow 1.2 tflops = 1.8tflops  CLOUD POWER!!!!  really Microsoft lol

[Xhavalor]

Idiots always love speculation.

They really should wait till both consoles are actually finalized and released on the market for as good few months before throwing numbers around and waving their e-peens like no one's business. 

[Godlygamer23]

Wow even the PS3  has better RAM than the Xbox One? Damn Microsoft u suck

Meant PS4. Not PS3. It has been corrected. PS3 uses GDDR3.

[The Last MeMe]

Protip: NEVER argue with console diehards. Facts and logic will do nothing. They are blinded by the sheer loyalty of their brand.

The regular console user though, they are cool beans to debate with.

Totally true lol.. And yeah I agree at first the difference it will make will be minimal but once companies switch over there development to the new console specs the better gpu will help a lot because they will be able to run higher settings. More importantly better graphically enchanced games for PC gamers :)

[MrMurphysLaw]

a powerbrick is one of the only reasons i still havnt boughten an xbox360, their brick is fking huge

[DudeWazap]

In conversations like this both people have to realize that PC destroys both consoles end of story. B)

[D3MON]

ive been following this forever as someone who prefers the way microsoft has pushed the console genre up until now, (built in hard drive, pc derived parts, robust online service)
sony was a newcomer at one point and beat nintendo to death with its own leg, microsoft came along and did the same....now its just sony fighting back, we shall see how it plays out.
Please don't go thinking I'm an idiot console fanboy now that you know this.

ps3 had an internal power brick so this isnt anything amazing, sorry to burst the bubble.

the ps3 was somewhere around 230gigaflops of processing power and a 9600gt has around 208 i have to say i prefer the 9600gt but that may be due to it being a pc part with all the benefits that brings. cest la vie

I would say if consoles have vsync at 30fps then the raw gpu power wont make any difference when the frames are locked down (I so hope pcper did a frame capture on these and previous consoles some how), if consoles dont end up using vsync then itll either be a difference of 30fps vs 40fps which is slightly noticable or 60fps and 80fps (which is not as noticable especially if vsync is implemented as I mentioned before)

at the end of the day while these consoles are mathmatically speaking 3x more powerful than thier predecessors hearing xbox fanboys and paystation fanboy arguing over it is like watching the special olympics-occasional laughter but other times hugely depressing when you realise you should be doing something better..

oh and gddr5 vs ddr3, this reminds me of the ati vs nvidia days where nvidia stuck with ddr3 and wider bus's (in this case edram) and ati went with higher speed memory with higher latency.

considering our pc's are using ddr3 and wont likely need anything else for a while i beleive its a non issue "buy amd apus need higher speed memory" if the latency is doubled then there will be little differnce in most scenarios, the OS's will then play the biggest difference.