Barack Obama is the first president to learn code

[Trik'Stari]

The republican house did an investigation and concluded there was no cover up at bengazi. also the IRS investigated both republican and democratic groups as it is their job. america is the only developed country without national healthcare about time we did something to fix that. and everything he is doing is within the constitution and believe me if he steps out of line for a second the republicans will be on top of him in a heart beat. Him allowing the NSA to continue and not doing more to support net neutrality are good points though.

Yeah not everything he is doing is constitutional, and that argument about the IRS thing is bullshit. Every single democrat group that was investigated, ended up receiving tax exempt status, conversely, not ONE of the "republican" groups investigated was granted tax exempt status. Not to mention the ENTIRE governments outright refusal to investigate ANY claim of voter fraud. Also, the republicans have outright stated they would never seek impeachment against obama because it would negatively influence their votes. Tell me, why did Lois Lerner plead the fifth before congress when asked about the IRS scandal. Yes, in a courtroom, pleading the fifth means "I refuse to answer, because the answer would incriminate me", however we are not in a courtroom, and I can point out that she is obviously protecting someone, herself at the least. As for Benghazi, we still know nothing about where obama was during all of it, and we know for a fact, that the state department sent that woman out on several sunday morning news shows, TO LIE about what happened. The "talking points" were altered, we know that for a fact, from memos.

 

And as for national healthcare, there is a reason that the healthcare in countries with "free" healthcare is considered a joke, because there isn't enough funding, and people end up dying 36 hours after being admitted, before being seen by the doctor.

 

Edit: I also forgot, several hundreds of millions of dollars that just magically "disappeared" as the result of obama's "stimulus" package, not to mention the emails that "got lost" as a result of a computer failure, from lois lerners computer. Because, you know, emails are only stored on the computer that sent them, and not the computers that received them as well.

 

I'm not saying obama is the only corrupt politician in the history of this country (all of them are), but he is obviously the most corrupt, at least the most blatant.

[spartaman64]

Yeah not everything he is doing is constitutional, and that argument about the IRS thing is bullshit. Every single democrat group that was investigated, ended up receiving tax exempt status, conversely, not ONE of the "republican" groups investigated was granted tax exempt status. Not to mention the ENTIRE governments outright refusal to investigate ANY claim of voter fraud. Also, the republicans have outright stated they would never seek impeachment against obama because it would negatively influence their votes. Tell me, why did Lois Lerner plead the fifth before congress when asked about the IRS scandal. Yes, in a courtroom, pleading the fifth means "I refuse to answer, because the answer would incriminate me", however we are not in a courtroom, and I can point out that she is obviously protecting someone, herself at the least. As for Benghazi, we still know nothing about where obama was during all of it, and we know for a fact, that the state department sent that woman out on several sunday morning news shows, TO LIE about what happened. The "talking points" were altered, we know that for a fact, from memos.

 

And as for national healthcare, there is a reason that the healthcare in countries with "free" healthcare is considered a joke, because there isn't enough funding, and people end up dying 36 hours after being admitted, before being seen by the doctor.

so all developed countries have healthcare that is considered a joke and developing countries have the good healthcare. and there were many investigations led by both republicans and democrats on the IRS and they found nothing. and the talking points were altered because they received additional information about the situation. also investigating voter fraud takes a lot of money and time so if there isnt much evidence for it they can't investigate everytime people claim there is voter fraud which is pretty much everytime

[Trik'Stari]

so all developed countries have healthcare that is considered a joke and developing countries have the good healthcare. and there were many investigations led by both republicans and democrats on the IRS and they found nothing. and the talking points were altered because they received additional information about the situation. also investigating voter fraud takes a lot of money and time so if there isnt much evidence for it they can't investigate everytime people claim there is voter fraud which is pretty much everytime

There's a reason the richest people in the world come to the US for healthcare. And they found nothing because of people pleading the fifth, and people covering things up. You can ignore obvious evidence of corruption if you want, I choose not to. As for voter fraud, there are countless citizen funded organizations that have found voter fraud to be rampant, and yet the government refuses to even hear the evidence of it. Try listening to something other than fox, msnbc, or cnn if you want real news.

[dalekphalm]

Yeah not everything he is doing is constitutional, and that argument about the IRS thing is bullshit. Every single democrat group that was investigated, ended up receiving tax exempt status, conversely, not ONE of the "republican" groups investigated was granted tax exempt status. Not to mention the ENTIRE governments outright refusal to investigate ANY claim of voter fraud. Also, the republicans have outright stated they would never seek impeachment against obama because it would negatively influence their votes. Tell me, why did Lois Lerner plead the fifth before congress when asked about the IRS scandal. Yes, in a courtroom, pleading the fifth means "I refuse to answer, because the answer would incriminate me", however we are not in a courtroom, and I can point out that she is obviously protecting someone, herself at the least. As for Benghazi, we still know nothing about where obama was during all of it, and we know for a fact, that the state department sent that woman out on several sunday morning news shows, TO LIE about what happened. The "talking points" were altered, we know that for a fact, from memos.

 

And as for national healthcare, there is a reason that the healthcare in countries with "free" healthcare is considered a joke, because there isn't enough funding, and people end up dying 36 hours after being admitted, before being seen by the doctor.

 

Edit: I also forgot, several hundreds of millions of dollars that just magically "disappeared" as the result of obama's "stimulus" package, not to mention the emails that "got lost" as a result of a computer failure, from lois lerners computer. Because, you know, emails are only stored on the computer that sent them, and not the computers that received them as well.

 

I'm not saying obama is the only corrupt politician in the history of this country (all of them are), but he is obviously the most corrupt, at least the most blatant.

*cough* I won't argue most of your points, but Canadian Healthcare, in my opinion, is a far sight better than American Healthcare... Unless you're rich. The rich definitely have an advantage there... But of course, that's a terrible way to run a healthcare system.

 

Can you post some sort of link or souce that verifies how "free" healthcare systems are considered a joke? And who the hell dies 36 hours after being admitted? Maybe someone in west africa or in some other third world nation. However, the rest of us first world nations enjoy a very safe hospital experience. I can also see a doctor in as little as 30 minutes at the FREE health clinic across the street. On a busy day, it might be several hours. For emergencies, the waiting period varies, but is no worse than american wait times.

[Trik'Stari]

*cough* I won't argue most of your points, but Canadian Healthcare, in my opinion, is a far sight better than American Healthcare... Unless you're rich. The rich definitely have an advantage there... But of course, that's a terrible way to run a healthcare system.

 

Can you post some sort of link or souce that verifies how "free" healthcare systems are considered a joke? And who the hell dies 36 hours after being admitted? Maybe someone in west africa or in some other third world nation. However, the rest of us first world nations enjoy a very safe hospital experience. I can also see a doctor in as little as 30 minutes at the FREE health clinic across the street. On a busy day, it might be several hours. For emergencies, the waiting period varies, but is no worse than american wait times.

I'm specifically talking about the UK with the 36 hours. And considering that we have a population 8 times the size of Canada, it's not really a fair comparison.

 

Also the fact that it isn't free. EVERYONE pays for that healthcare system, regardless of whether or not they use it.

[spartaman64]

There's a reason the richest people in the world come to the US for healthcare. And they found nothing because of people pleading the fifth, and people covering things up. You can ignore obvious evidence of corruption if you want, I choose not to. As for voter fraud, there are countless citizen funded organizations that have found voter fraud to be rampant, and yet the government refuses to even hear the evidence of it. Try listening to something other than fox, msnbc, or cnn if you want real news.

but do we really want a healthcare system that is only better for rich people. and you should read the exact findings of the house because they did find stuff but it is evidence against the bengazi consparicy theory. and i dont know about evidence for voter fraud and you might be correct about that but voter fraud is probably not the biggest issue. the biggest issue is money in politics. i get a lot of my news from tyt and jon stewart

[spartaman64]

I'm specifically talking about the UK with the 36 hours. And considering that we have a population 8 times the size of Canada, it's not really a fair comparison.

 

Also the fact that it isn't free. EVERYONE pays for that healthcare system, regardless of whether or not they use it.

i am germany for an international relations class and i think we are a good argument for the success of national healthcare

[dalekphalm]

I'm specifically talking about the UK with the 36 hours. And considering that we have a population 8 times the size of Canada, it's not really a fair comparison.

 

Also the fact that it isn't free. EVERYONE pays for that healthcare system, regardless of whether or not they use it.

Everyone uses the healthcare system at one point or another.

 

Roads are also free, regardless of if you have a car or not.

 

Socialized healthcare is one of the great inventions of 1st world nations. Oddly, America is the only one not using it. Many nations (Including Canada and a few other countries) adopt a basic free system, with an optional paid-for insurance that covers additionals or extra benefits. This is the type of system the US should adopt.

 

You can say it's not a fair comparison all you want, but we still have great healtcare in Toronto, which is one of the largest cities in the world. It's the fourth largest city in North America, so it's bigger than most of your state capitals. So on a micro-scale, it works perfectly fine.

[Trik'Stari]

Everyone uses the healthcare system at one point or another.

 

Roads are also free, regardless of if you have a car or not.

 

Socialized healthcare is one of the great inventions of 1st world nations. Oddly, America is the only one not using it. Many nations (Including Canada and a few other countries) adopt a basic free system, with an optional paid-for insurance that covers additionals or extra benefits. This is the type of system the US should adopt.

 

You can say it's not a fair comparison all you want, but we still have great healtcare in Toronto, which is one of the largest cities in the world. It's the fourth largest city in North America, so it's bigger than most of your state capitals. So on a micro-scale, it works perfectly fine.

Perhaps, however that isn't what we have adopted under the "liberals". Instead what we have is mandatory health insurance (which doesn't apply to any member of congress or their aids because "we/they couldn't afford it"), that is more expensive than it was.

 

My opinion is that every single last sitting american politician needs to be removed from office, and barred from ever holding office again, along with the next 3 generations of their family. In this country we have a fake left vs right argument, when in reality what we have is government vs the "sheep". I just can't stand the fake amount of good press our current president gets, directly due to the fact that anyone who speaks ill of him in the media gets "black listed" from white house press conferences. Not to mention investigated by the NSA/IRS.

 

but do we really want a healthcare system that is only better for rich people. and you should read the exact findings of the house because they did find stuff but it is evidence against the bengazi consparicy theory. and i dont know about evidence for voter fraud and you might be correct about that but voter fraud is probably not the biggest issue. the biggest issue is money in politics. i get a lot of my news from tyt and jon stewart

 

That isn't news. Jon Stewart is a mouthpiece for the "left".

[dalekphalm]

Perhaps, however that isn't what we have adopted under the "liberals". Instead what we have is mandatory health insurance (which doesn't apply to any member of congress or their aids because "we/they couldn't afford it"), that is more expensive than it was.

 

My opinion is that every single last sitting american politician needs to be removed from office, and barred from ever holding office again, along with the next 3 generations of their family. In this country we have a fake left vs right argument, when in reality what we have is government vs the "sheep". I just can't stand the fake amount of good press our current president gets, directly due to the fact that anyone who speaks ill of him in the media gets "black listed" from white house press conferences. Not to mention investigated by the NSA/IRS.

 

 

That isn't news. Jon Stewart is a mouthpiece for the "left".

Personally, I don't think that ObamaCare is the right solution. I think it just muddles the already terrible situation you Americans have.

 

However, I very much doubt that the Republicans (Or the Democrats, really, now that I think about it) would ever allow a good solution to be passed through Congress. A good solution which is completely subsidized, "free" (As in, paid for by taxes) Healthcare system, where all basic medical needs are available at no up-front cost to anyone.

 

Insurance should always remain optional. Insurance should cover all the extra stuff, like prescription drugs, dental/vision, etc. Insurance should basically "shore up" your "free" coverage with additional coverage, for those who want or need it.

 

But good luck ever getting the government (Either side really) to retrofit the system that extensively. Being rich or poor should not factor into your ability to afford healthcare or get medical treatment. The fact that the rich are so well off in America compared to the lower and middle class is a terrible thing.

[Trik'Stari]

Personally, I don't think that ObamaCare is the right solution. I think it just muddles the already terrible situation you Americans have.

 

However, I very much doubt that the Republicans (Or the Democrats, really, now that I think about it) would ever allow a good solution to be passed through Congress. A good solution which is completely subsidized, "free" (As in, paid for by taxes) Healthcare system, where all basic medical needs are available at no up-front cost to anyone.

 

Insurance should always remain optional. Insurance should cover all the extra stuff, like prescription drugs, dental/vision, etc. Insurance should basically "shore up" your "free" coverage with additional coverage, for those who want or need it.

 

But good luck ever getting the government (Either side really) to retrofit the system that extensively. Being rich or poor should not factor into your ability to afford healthcare or get medical treatment. The fact that the rich are so well off in America compared to the lower and middle class is a terrible thing.

It's a direct result of our 2 party system. We have both sides slinging insults and accusations at each other, when in reality they actually work together to increase their own positions. Creating a distraction that people focus on.

[dalekphalm]

It's a direct result of our 2 party system. We have both sides slinging insults and accusations at each other, when in reality they actually work together to increase their own positions. Creating a distraction that people focus on.

I agree, the two party system is a serious flaw in the American political system. However, I cannot ever see that changing. Dems and Reps have been ingrained into your society for hundreds of years, so much that I doubt a third major party could ever surface and remain popular.

 

At least in Canada we have THREE major powers: Liberals (Our dems), Consveratives (Obviously our Reps), and NDP (New Democratic Party - they actually were originally a Socialist party - briefly, but now they are just a Far Left liberal party).

 

There is a fourth national party, the Green Party (Environmentalists for the most part, but also ultra left liberal), but they never win more than 3 to 5 seats in Parliament (Out of what, 300 something? - Just checked, 308 seats). Green will never win a Federal Election, as they are too niche, and don't cater to enough things that the average person cares about.

 

However, even our system does have it's flaws. Mostly focused around how a particular party can win the election. But that's a whole different topic.

[Tech_Dreamer]

Why was this moved to off-topic?

[Rekx]

can he code a decent healthcare system?

In Java, nope :rolleyes: