Plasma Televisions are going Extinct

[Tech_Dreamer]

They did indeed 

 

My family has one in our "movie room" (basement, no lights at night.. so epic  :wub: ) 

I have a Pioneer Elite (don't know exact model name.. edit: Pro-111fd) in my room that I absolutely adore. But once my parents decide to get a new TV (dad is really digging curved 4k tvs), I'm definitely taking the Kuro for myself 

 

I mean seriously, look at it. 

If that doesn't make you want to cry for the loss of plasma, I don't know what will

 

DAMN! i think not even CRT is gonna go that low for blacks.. #no pun

[AlexStriz]

DAMN! i think not even CRT is gonna go that low for blacks.. #no pun

Lol   nice one

 

Yeah, it's really sad to see plasmas go.   I think companies should have worked on making plasmas better instead of moving to something else that was inherently worse (LCD) and trying to make them better than technology we already had

 

Better yet, they should have kept plasmas for true enthusiasts who wanted the best picture they could get, even if it meant spending more money, and have LCD tv's for the "normal" consumers who would rather pay less on their energy bill versus having better black levels and whatnot.

 

Thinking about it, that's probably what they meant to do. I guess people just thought that LCD TVs were a superior (read: newer) technology and assumed it was better. The high price tag of high-end plasmas most likely didn't help much either

 

god, I'm making myself sad    I'm gonna go watch a tv on my KURO to make myself feel better

[Mooshi]

Plasma TV always felt like the HD DVD of the display world.

 

Edit: It also reminds me of when people praise *IPS monitors while dumping over VA when VA based panels had better blacks.

[Tola]

My Pioneer Kuro Plasma TV will never leave me. I can honestly say it is the best TV I have ever had. Never letting it go. Not replacing it till it is beyond repair.

[KungPaoChino]

I have one at home. I love it. Craxy 600hz refresh rate. Too bad there is no way I can take advantage of it... 

[drcypher]

This saddens me. I figured on this forum there would at least be appreciation for Quality tv's, not just gimmicky. Plasma's are by far the best picture you can get currently. OLED are so close and look better, but try getting one for under 4000. 

 

Plasma's had the best blacks, best colors, and were the most precise color representation. LEDS SUCK. i've had both.. both 60in. I cringe looking at the led. Neither were low end tv's {walmart} they were the upper end samsungs. Plasma destroyed the LED. 

 

I look forward to OLEDS, when this curved crap dissipates. 

[LukeTim]

Poor Plasma... it's still preferable to LCD, in my opinion.

[WereCat]

We still have old PanasonicViera plasma at home though it is only HD ready. But it is rarely used these days. But damn.. Those colors!

[RuecanOnRails]

An article from last year on reasons which attributed to the upcoming death of plasmas.

http://plasmatvbuyingguide.com/hdtv/death-of-plasma-tv.html

 

 

Plasma TVs have obtained our top ranked picture quality ratings other than much more expensive new 4K or OLED TVs for the past 10 years in a row without exception. Granted, picture quality comparisons have gotten closer over the past couple years. Except for the very best LED TVs, Plasma Televisions have trounced LED and LCD TVs in black level, processing speed (Hz rate vs sub field drive on plasma), side angle viewing quality and contrast, and color saturation and rendition. Basically, all of the most important picture quality attributes.

 

For example, following is a write up of Panasonic's Demonstration room at CES 2014:

 

An all blacked out room demonstration of the “Studio Master Drive” feature showed what I was afraid of – Panasonic's plasma TVs of the past couple years are better than their new 4K LED TVs. The demonstration pitted the 2013 TC-P65ZT60 reference plasma against the new 2014 4K LED offering to show how the black levels and color saturation has improved in the 4K LED offerings. They also had a 4K LED from 2013 in the room for comparison.

 

While the new 4K offering beat last years 4K LED handily in both black saturation and color rendition (which showed light bleed in several areas of the screen), it did not beat the plasma. To my (very trained) eye, the TC-P65ZT60 beat the new 4K LED in black saturation, light bleed, color rendition and especially dark shadow detail. When I mentioned this to the Panasonic technician showing the display, he said, 'but it's getting closer.” OK, I'll give them that much...

 

 

I may have to look into getting another high end plasma in the coming months before stock is completely gone. At least try and pick through whatever models and old stock are left. I'll let it sit brand new in the box, because the thought of replacing my current plasma with the current/upcoming consumer led's makes me cringe.

[TheProfosist]

Plasma TV always felt like the HD DVD of the display world.

Edit: It also reminds me of when people praise *IPS monitors while dumping over VA when VA based panels had better blacks.

But worse like everything else.

[TheProfosist]

I have one at home. I love it. Craxy 600hz refresh rate. Too bad there is no way I can take advantage of it...

That's just marketing it ends up just being 60hz. Actually does anyone know if they support the proper 59.98?

[TheProfosist]

This saddens me. I figured on this forum there would at least be appreciation for Quality tv's, not just gimmicky. Plasma's are by far the best picture you can get currently. OLED are so close and look better, but try getting one for under 4000.

Plasma's had the best blacks, best colors, and were the most precise color representation. LEDS SUCK. i've had both.. both 60in. I cringe looking at the led. Neither were low end tv's {walmart} they were the upper end samsungs. Plasma destroyed the LED.

I look forward to OLEDS, when this curved crap dissipates.

I assume your referencing led backlighting not an actual led panel. If so then yes ccfl is better than led but causes the display to be thicker and more power hungry.

[Lord Baal]

The only reason I have multiple "Samsung LED LCD Smart TVs" of various sizes over a plasma is I have a family and 3 small children aged between 1 and 8 so the burn in factor was a deal breaker. I can't say the power consumption was something I cared about when I bought them and I'd prefer the better color and darker blacks of a plasma, though I guess these stupid things being 1cm thick at the thickest point is kinda nice if i ever decided to wall mount them.

[fishy]

i love my plasma, was the first TV i actually paid for with my money, still using it and loving it after 5 years

[SubTract]

This saddens me. I figured on this forum there would at least be appreciation for Quality tv's, not just gimmicky. Plasma's are by far the best picture you can get currently. OLED are so close and look better, but try getting one for under 4000. 

 

Plasma's had the best blacks, best colors, and were the most precise color representation. LEDS SUCK. i've had both.. both 60in. I cringe looking at the led. Neither were low end tv's {walmart} they were the upper end samsungs. Plasma destroyed the LED. 

 

I look forward to OLEDS, when this curved crap dissipates. 

It May still have the curved crapness but

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/tv-home-entertainment/hd-televisions/lg/lg-55ec930t-55-full-hd-curved-oled-smart-tv/641910/

This is Australian $ too. They've come down a lot.

 

I didn't ever think anything would surpass the Kuro. But Panasonic took plasma out with a final boom with the VT an ZT series.

 

OLED looks good, Leagues away from LCD at this point, but still has a way to catch the Kuro or ZT60. When are manufacturers going to realise that brutal colour saturation is not the answer to everything.

I'm curious to see Panasonics A*800 series, They're making very bold claims..... (I'll believe it when I see it)

[KungPaoChino]

That's just marketing it ends up just being 60hz. Actually does anyone know if they support the proper 59.98?

gaasp

[TheProfosist]

gaasp

hopefully that was not a ironic gasp.

[ijKs Snow]

My body is ready for an OLED TV at a good price point.

[RuecanOnRails]

My body is ready for an OLED TV at a good price point.

 

Even the brand new, expensive top of the line, to be released OLED TV's are still not as good as the top Plasma from 2013. It's a game of catch up that's been going on for the past 10 years, OLED is closer, but still not there. LED technology hasn't surpassed plasma yet, and now it no-longer has competition, possible stagnation with innovation incoming?

[1988fido]

well what I know is that plasma better than LCD in motion and speed stuff like hz and response time. I might be wrong.

but if that is the pros of plasma then the cons are less colors accuracy ( according to my eyes) so far I always found LCD Tv's have better colors and specially brightness levels with LED etc..

but this is all old . so these days LCDs are not slow anymore . specially look at monitors they got Gsync so maybe we will have something like that into Tv's

[Victorious Secret]

 

 

#KuroMasterRace


A TV that still makes TVs of today look bad. 

[LAwLz]

My body is ready for an OLED TV at a good price point.

I'm just worried about burn-in on OLED TV's. My Galaxy S 2 had very noticeable burn in after only 2 years. I am pretty sure my TV would have even longer on screen time than my phone had during the same number of years.

Having the PlayBoy logo forever burned into the corner of my TV would be a pain.

[SubTract]

I'm just worried about burn-in on OLED TV's. My Galaxy S 2 had very noticeable burn in after only 2 years. I am pretty sure my TV would have even longer on screen time than my phone had during the same number of years.

Having the PlayBoy logo forever burned into the corner of my TV would be a pain.

 

The LG OLED at work had Burn in on the first day...

They'll eventually figure it out. I mean they eventually did with plasma.

[ijKs Snow]

I'm just worried about burn-in on OLED TV's. My Galaxy S 2 had very noticeable burn in after only 2 years. I am pretty sure my TV would have even longer on screen time than my phone had during the same number of years.

Having the PlayBoy logo forever burned into the corner of my TV would be a pain.

Yeah, not sure about S2, but I've been hearing that burn-in issues are disappearing for OLED panels every new generation. But, it should be fixed by the time OLED monitors/TVs hit affordable prices.

[APrettyCoolWalrus]

Of course a television that has the ability to get images burned unto the screen is going extinct.