Help me convince my friend he doesn't need an i7

[Juggernautilus]

My friend has been planning to buy a PC for quite some while. No matter what I say, he refuses to drop his i7 for a cheaper one. The reason I want him to do that is because he spends so much on the CPU, that the other parts are not being looked at and he will probably never use the power of an i7 anyways.

 

I am giving him options of i5 4670k, FX-8350 or even a Fx-6300. Yet he refuses to buy any of them. He will be using a GTX 770 or 970 if it is ever available here.

 

He is planning to buy only 4 gigs of RAM, NO cpu cooler, shitty case and low end motherboard just because he will not have the money after a 320 euro CPU.

 

Please help me convince him!

[Archangel1994]

What games does he play?

[Freaky_spider]

just tell him hes an idiot and stop making him switch, its his pc, he'll learn out of his mistakes

[Jobbe03]

Just tell him to get a 4690k 

[Raudi_]

Tell him if he buys the i7 and doesn't focus on the other parts of his system it will blow up (Its happened to me with a i7 3770K and a piss poor PSU), and he will lose all of his money, because they don't cover damage like it under warranty. 

[Osmium]

If he wants to be a retard let him, you aren't his treasurer. 

[TheTacoSniper]

Take his wallet and buy everything for him. 

[Rorgash]

i recommend he buys a i7 if he has more than one monitor and watches streams and youtube while gaming.. i regret buying only a i5 because of this, when gaming my cpu is running at 98% and only 60-70% of this goes to the game... tho if he buys 4gb of ram well then.. there are some other issues there

[Juggernautilus]

What games does he play?

Idk, I suppose all the AAA titles, he hasn't had a good PC so I can't really tell.

[Mooshi]

I /was/ prepared to chew you out a bit to imply you knew more than what he was going to use the system for..until:

 

 

He is planning to buy only 4 gigs of RAM, NO cpu cooler, shitty case and low end motherboard just because he will not have the money after a 320 euro CPU.

 

Please help me convince him!

 

Anyone who is only going to use/plan around 4GB of ram these days are not going to be doing anything deserving of the i7. This seems more like a budget gaming build with those specs with the CPU being really off-balance. i7 is more for workloads. Workstations with i7s are going to have way more than only 4GB of ram. Personally I find 8GB not enough and  have 16GB in my own system. This computer is going to be very unbalanced with a wasted CPU not being used to its full potential.

[Trik'Stari]

i recommend he buys a i7 if he has more than one monitor and watches streams and youtube while gaming.. i regret buying only a i5 because of this, when gaming my cpu is running at 98% and only 60-70% of this goes to the game... tho if he buys 4gb of ram well then.. there are some other issues there

wait. So I won't be able to watch youtube or have a streaming radio going on another monitor whilst gaming with my 4690k?

 

DAMNIT

 

Anyways, OP, tell him he won't be able to play that many games with such a small amount of ram, and his precious I7 will not lost long with a stock cooler (do those even come with one?) still. He's an idiot, tell him to get on here with his budget, and someone will come up with a way better build than he will.

[Rorgash]

wait. So I won't be able to watch youtube or have a streaming radio going on another monitor whilst gaming with my 4690k?

 

DAMNIT

you will, i do with tons of things, BUT there has to be some kinda of damage to my FPS or other loading issues when my game gets limited by how many things my CPU can do, if my cpu only ran at 90% then fine, now it runs at 98-100% when playing demanding games :/and the game only gets 60% of it  

 

tho other things to consider chrome uses 6gigs of my ram to

[Trik'Stari]

you will, i do with tons of things, BUT there has to be some kinda of damage to my FPS or other loading issues when my game gets limited by how many things my CPU can do, if my cpu only ran at 90% then fine, now it runs at 98-100% when playing demanding games :/and the game only gets 60% of it  

Shit, you've got a better gpu than me as well. All I want is to be able to play single player games with the radio or youtube or something like that on another screen. Doubt my 660 will take that very well lol

[SimpleG]

My friend has been planning to buy a PC for quite some while. No matter what I say, he refuses to drop his i7 for a cheaper one. The reason I want him to do that is because he spends so much on the CPU, that the other parts are not being looked at and he will probably never use the power of an i7 anyways.

 

I am giving him options of i5 4670k, FX-8350 or even a Fx-6300. Yet he refuses to buy any of them. He will be using a GTX 770 or 970 if it is ever available here.

 

He is planning to buy only 4 gigs of RAM, NO cpu cooler, shitty case and low end motherboard just because he will not have the money after a 320 euro CPU.

 

Please help me convince him!

datori.dataleks.lv ir jau 980/970

 

Sastāsti šim daudz ko neīstu (protams, ja viņš neko nezin par pc), ka i7 ir slikti priekš spēlēm, utt.

[Rorgash]

Shit, you've got a better gpu than me as well. All I want is to be able to play single player games with the radio or youtube or something like that on another screen. Doubt my 660 will take that very well lol

 

I remember my 670 i have behind me in my old computer and its i7 960, did just fine, never filling the cpu i miss it when i had headroom in cpu

[Acerpwns]

well if he has no knowledge about PC's and he just goes with "the best out there" there isnt much you can do. you could show him benchmarks with an i5 4690k (or AMD equivalent) and an i7 and show him the difference 

[Legion]

Tell him Akali will devour his soul if he buys an i7.

 

In all honestly its his money if he wants to be a dope with it so be it.

[Juggernautilus]

well he just ordered it. didn't even bother to get a GPU because appereantly the Intel HD chip is good enough. 

[chargerjake]

He shouldn't be so, so, I cant even find a word for it. I was looking at buying PC parts a long time ago, and I wanted an r9 280x, and wanted a crappy mobo, case, psu, etc JUST to get that. In the long run, I decided that I should get an R9 270x and get an i5-4440. Just tell him that he should pick either one, but it'll be his fault when his PC isn't sufficient enough.

[scar]

Tell him if he plans to use a chip with a gpu incorporatedin it to get the AMD-7850k you can play BF4 with it witg the right Ram 8 GB 2133 MHz it needs the speed and the memory to play the games if he still have money left he couod get a R7 250 and go duel linkit will increase is fps a lot show him Linus as several post on that chip ( the chip is also called Kaveri ) on youtube tell him lets do some reasearch on the I7 and say hey I wanna see that one on the Kaveri then say lets seeif theres more of them or something like that .

[Yoinkerman]

if he's getting a 770 or 970, it's probably fine.  Sure there are better things to do, but it's not going to be a disaster.

[Linux User]

Show him any video at this thread from a bunch of tech savvy people.

[DaMagicalManiac]

My friend has an i7 4770 (non-k and bought it when devil's canyon was released..., cause those experts at the stores know everything right) and has some crappy gt 530, 620 or 630 or something along the lines of that...

 

4gb of ram is simply not enough for most things, I was stuck on 4gb for a few months (put the second stick in the wrong way) and when I was browsing Chrome would randomly freeze for about 10-20 seconds while it was caching to my ssd or hdd. Also, if he wants to start photoshoppin' the same thing will happen.

 

Most importantly stress that if he gets a crappy PSU, it has the chance to short out possibly multiple components of his system and in the future, when z107 isn't compatible with socket 1150 cause of ddr4, he/she might have to buy both a new motherboard and cpu that he/she spent so much on...

The PSU is one of THE most important parts of your system, make sure it's 80 plus certified and also preferably do some research on it (JonnyGuru is a good site to look at)